Ortiz vs Shamrock III - Here We Go Again.
08-14-2006 08:55 PM
I agree. Everyone knows this except for Shamrock...He's living in denial.
Originally Posted by Bionic
08-19-2006 03:22 PM
I like Ken, but I do agree that he just doesnt want to learn modern MMA. And when this whole BS started with ken and tito..tito was very ****y as well thats what gave him the spot light. Now tito progressed so much as a fighter then he used to be. He is so much better and more humble. As much as I would like to see Ken win I dont think he will.. just hopefully its a legitimate beat down not a fast call from the ref. And I hope BJ comes back. 808 Pride.
08-20-2006 12:03 AM
No disrespect to you Will but I hope Ken gets his teeth knocked out...then maybe he'll finally do us all a favor and finally retire. Maybe he can take his fight to the press and write a book on his life and how he hates Tito and was the man who made Tito..blah blah blah. Ken should just realize that he WAS a great but no longer IS a great.
Realizing who and what you are shows your character and pretending to be someone that you're not (like Ken) just makes you look bad and really tarnishes your reputation. Now he won't be remembered as a UFC Hall of Famer, he'll just be the whiner that got his a$$ beat not once but three times by a man he just couldn't respect as being superior. There is no humility or humbleness in Ken and he just needs to let go and stop living in the past. I never saw Royce smack talk at Hughes after the fight...Gracie knows humbleness and pride. Even if he was physically beaten, his honor is still there and no one, except himself, could take that away. That is why Gracie is still, THE MAN.
For the record, I was never a real Tito fan but after watching TUF3, he really earned my respect. Seeing him teach up and coming guys and actually training with them, sparring, etc, showed his dedication to honestly teaching them. Ken never really showed his dedication to his team and Dana White said this on public tv too.
As a fighter or as a coach, Ken will never beat Tito. Peace!
08-20-2006 12:24 AM
It would make for a great story if Ken beat Tito, but that's highly unlikely.
08-20-2006 12:42 AM
DAGECKO, no dis-respect taken at all. You put it really good and I agree with what you stated. But IF Ken did beat tito he should just retire not mouth off about anything. All we can do is wait and see.
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