Damn, This Guy is a Beast: Rampage Jackson
- 06-19-2006, 07:23 PM
- 06-19-2006, 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by Rodja
Been watching MMA since mid 90's, no TUF'er here. Fedor would eat Tim yes, but we are talking about LeBanner.
Perhaps saying Tim wins with relative easy was a bit over the top, but I still pick Tim in that fight.
06-19-2006, 09:15 PM
1) I've never been a huge AA fan, but the guy is a world class striker. (and I know it's cool to hate on AA right now) He is one of the fastest, most athletic, and most accurate fighters in MMA. Credit where credit is due.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
2) Yes, I am familiar with all those names. I don't have any problem with you having an opposing opinion, but please don't assume I'm a "TUF'er" and don't know anything about MMA.
3) Tim is a Miletich fighter and I have to assume that if he took LeBanner down he would have a significant advantage. I know that Tim strikes in most of his fights, but that does not mean he couldn't alter his gameplan. I think Tim could take him to the ground and if he did I think he would have a good chance to finish him.
4) Isn't this thread about Rampage? lol
You guys take a look at the pic on Tito's website? He really is taking those TUF guys under his wing. I think Matt Hamill is going to turn out to be a pretty decent fighter in time if he continues to train with Tito. Can't wait to see how good Matt really is when he fights Jesse.
06-19-2006, 09:36 PM
06-19-2006, 09:41 PM
I'm learning so much
BTW, I have Pride Critical Countdown and Bodyblow coming from Netflix. Looking forward to cardio this week
06-19-2006, 09:41 PM
I think you missed my point too man, lol.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
I wasn't saying that "AA could'nt KO Sylvia so JLB also could not" in any way, shape, or form. All I was saying is that Tim has a solid chin, no more, no less. Anyone that can take a punch from AA like that, much less two, and not get KO'd has a solid chin. That's all I'm saying.
Also, I'm not sure what we disagree on really. We both agree that JLB would win a standup battle, but I guess maybe we don't agree on who would win a MMA match. I think that Tim could take him down and win it from there in MMA, whether it be a submission, GnP, or a snoozefest lay n pray. Like I said he is a Miletich fighter, and they do great ground work as a camp. Just because he prefer's to stand in his fights thus far doesn't mean he doesn't have a solid ground game and it doesn't mean he wouldn't use it to exploit a K1 fighters weaknesses.
Question my knowledge if you wish, but I don't see the gapping hole in my logic/prediction that you seem to see.
Can one of you guys that is so certain JLB would beat Tim so effortlessly please explain to me how Tim winning a ground fight is so out of the question?
I honestly don't like Tim very much, but I don't let that cloud my view of looking at things from an objective point of view. You guys are being pretty closed minded IMO.
06-20-2006, 09:01 AM
Earlier in this thread somebody stated that JLB trains ground with Dean Lister...I don't know how long this has been going on, but if the ground game is/was a weakness for JLB, it probably won't be in the future (if he outlast father time...he's got to be getting up there in age for a fighter...maybe mid to late 30s).
06-20-2006, 11:05 AM
06-20-2006, 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by size
Anyone think that training with Tito and "the gang" up in Big Bear will give Page the edge he needs to get back to his old self?
Or do you guys think he's got RJJ syndrome and will never be the same fighter after Wandy?
I for one really hope he gets back to his old self, I enjoyed watching his "unique" style very much.
06-20-2006, 03:02 PM
There's really no way to tell until he climbs back into the ring. That being said, it definitely won't hurt him any!
06-20-2006, 04:04 PM
Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever see the old Rampage, hopefully I'm wrong though.Originally Posted by SHSUStudent
06-20-2006, 04:47 PM
It will be hard to tell against Linland if he is back to his old self. Don't forget that Shogun gave him a pretty good beating too.Originally Posted by SHSUStudent
06-21-2006, 06:35 PM
Damn, I just watched Jackson vs. Arona from PRIDEFC Critical Countdown 2004. I'd seen that slam many times in highlights, but it was actually disturbing to see it unfold. BEASTLY Arona's head ricocheted off the canvas so hard that it cut Jackson's head when it bounced back up.
06-21-2006, 08:27 PM
Beowulf.....try to watch some George St. Pierre fights when you get a chance. He is an excellent fighter who is technically sound.
06-21-2006, 08:30 PM
I'll look him up and get that in my next Netflix order
Jackson is obviously incredibly strong for his size and seems to have a rare level of cajones. Even to my uneducated eye he seems to be get by more on athletic talent and balls than on skill. He seems to take a lot of shots, and is definitely exciting to watch, though. I watched his fight vs. Ninja, his first fight after getting KO'd. Even Jackson thought he lost. Honestly, the second time I watched it, it appeared that although Ninja dictated the course of the fight, for the most part, Jackson was more successful in attacking and countering.
06-21-2006, 10:43 PM
Beowulf, you must be on an MMA high. I remember when I first got into MMA being so excited awaiting every new tape or dvd. Like friggin christmas, I'm jealous you have so much good sh*t to watch. If you can try to check out IVC, and Meca, its real deal vale tudo, and there are some great fighters in these events. You'll soon find out about all types of smaller events that have taken place over the years with many great fights. World Extreme Fighting has a couple excellent card with 10-15 fights for each event(7-10 are really good). You seem to like MMA for all the right reasons unlike a lot of new fans that have become fans off TUF, and talk out there asses.
06-21-2006, 10:56 PM
Guilty. I saw UFC 1, and didn't really like it b/c the fights were just brutal. Guys were getting hit 6 or 7 times while their eyes were already rolled back in their heads. I remember 1 fight where a guy actually stopped hitting before the ref did b/c he saw what the ref did not. To me, that is not entertainment.Originally Posted by Alexander
I have no desire to see someone have permanent brain damage from a sporting event. My godfather was a boxer in Ireland. Every time he tells me about his last fight he tears up. The other guy never recovered. My godfather is the nicest guy in the world, and he never intended that. I also have a cousin (pretty distant) from Ireland who was a bigtime boxer here in the 80's. He and his trainer made a lot of poor decisions, and he has the intellect of a child right now. These connections turned me off of fighting when I was still younger. I'm glad to see the caliber of refs, and I'd rather they err on the side of caution and end it prematurely than let someone have permanent damage.
I think it was a Crocop highlight that Beelz posted a while back that left me in awe. The skill and athleticism these guys display is inspiring. Since then I've been watching highlights and reading the analysis you guys post. The highlights are attention getting, but nothing compared to the long haul of the actual fight.
MMA is definitely a fascinating sport. I'm looking forward to learning more.
06-21-2006, 11:00 PM
06-21-2006, 11:03 PM
06-22-2006, 12:07 AM
06-22-2006, 12:24 AM
gsp is the future of mma: athletic, well-rounded, disciplined and a huge heart. he has begged the ufc to rematch him with matt hughes for the welterweight title and he got it. one of the most entertaining true martial artists in the biz, impressive jiu-jitsu ground game, amazing standup using karate and muay thai. check out his teammate david loiseau if you haven't heard of him, same style, both from montreal, canada. st-pierre will be taking the belt from hughes within the next 6 months. mark my words.Originally Posted by size
06-22-2006, 01:01 AM
Damn, I just watched Fedor vs. Randleman. I had seen that slam in clips many times, but it does not cease to amaze. Fedor is lucky that he retained consciousness, nevermind escaping a broken neck.
The show of sportsmanship was especially impressive. Randleman picked Fedor up and carried him around the ring. That is class!
BTW, Jackson was commentating. Funny as hell! When asked for his advice for Heath Herring against Nog, he said he should get some bigger trunks so they stop creeping up his ass
06-22-2006, 09:22 AM
Fedor is not human. He has not lost a fight in over 5 years. The only fight he ever "lost" was a stoppage due to a freak cut.
He is amazing.
06-22-2006, 09:23 AM
Nice elbows and a solid striker. He was picked apart by Rich Franklin though.Originally Posted by Wandy
06-22-2006, 09:59 AM
I really thought that was going to be a much better fight than it was. I knew Franklin was good, but that was when I realize how good he really is.Originally Posted by size
Originally Posted by Beowulf
Yeah, that slam was amazing to see! I replayed that over and over. And if I recall Jackson's commentary from that night...he said some really funny stuff the whole night...especially when Baas meant to say Randleman and said Jackson instead. His repsonse was classic Rampage (his response was obvious, but the delivery and tension that Baas showed after slipping up was great).
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