Shogun vs. The Hammer
- 03-04-2006, 07:43 PM
- 03-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Marcus, did you see that post fight pic of Wanderlei praying as Coleman had his foot on his neck? I seriously doubt Silva was begging Mark, but Baroni took him down and Coleman did appear to have his throat firmly under foot.
Shogun's injury was an accident that was mostly caused by his prexisting tendonitis and at this point, I'll give the Hammer the benefit of the doubt, as he claims, that he'll stop being a lazyass with a bad diet and he'll revitalize himself.
Generally good stuff, we should get a grudge match or two out of it as fans.
03-04-2006, 09:11 PM
03-04-2006, 11:05 PM
Yes I saw it and Silva wouldn't have gotten underfoot if he didn't rush for the sucker punch.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
If you watch the video, Coleman had his back turned and Silva was the first to rush from behind followed by Ninja was the person in the baseball cap who threw the last punch.
The picture shows Coleman moving away and Silva just about to jump Coleman.
03-04-2006, 11:49 PM
I did'nt post very clearly above. I'm not disagreeing that Silva attacked Coleman, clearly Chutebox rushed the ring and the amateur video shows Silva attacking Coleman. Coleman said he was sucker punched twice by Silva, I believe it.
I think Alexander was questioning the connection you appear to him, and to me, to be making between Shogun's injury and Silva's attack on Coleman.
First the injury, then Silva attacks, seperate episodes, yes?
Personally, I like the drama and hope Hammer House pounds the #^@!* outta ChuteBox however it's matched up.
Coleman was lean and mean, WTF?! is that fluid/tumor behind his cauliflower ear, damn.
03-05-2006, 01:25 AM
How great would a Chute Boxe vs. Hammer House bushido type deal be? Can you imagine the hype.
Too bad Assuerio isn't with Chute Boxe anymore, he could whoop up on Wes Sims as a fourth bout.
03-05-2006, 04:22 PM
"Personally, I like the drama and hope Hammer House pounds the #^@!* outta ChuteBox however it's matched up."
hahahahahhaa,, funny ****,, Hammer House doesn't stand a chance. Coleman can't fight more than a round. Randleman gets tired very quickly and also and no submission skills. Baroni can't fight more than a round either. Bottom line Chute Box would kill Hammer House no matter who would fight who. Just take a look at both team's records. You will see the difference.
03-05-2006, 04:25 PM
03-05-2006, 10:42 PM
I don't see Hammer House winning any match-ups, unless some more lucky **** occurs. If they did win it would be boring ass lay n pray. Haaaaaayyyyyyy, go Chute Boxe! I apologize for acting like this will actually happen, I just get a little excited.
03-06-2006, 06:16 PM
I like Coleman alot but the fight didn't tell much. Before the injury Shogun was all over the place trying to finish Coleman with submissions.
03-06-2006, 08:56 PM
I did'nt say Hammer House could take Chute Box, I said I hoped, big difference.
I'll always root for the Underdog, particularly if they are American.
Here's how I see it - if Mark Coleman had gotten away from Buckeye Hammer House years ago and broadened his skill set with another team, had learned that Ferocity and GNP with insufficent stamina and poor sub defense are not enough to win at the top level, there's no telling where he could have been today.
He has the wrong frame and I doubt he's limber emough to be a good boxer, but with the right training and stamina he could have been twice the dirty boxer of Couture and twice the GNP machine of Tito Ortiz. You don't neccesarily have to be a Big Nog Level Sub Master if you are an ultra smashing machine that does'nt gas.
Time machine Coleman back to the when he left UFC for Pride and give him to Team Millitech or Team Quest and who knows how his fight with Cro Cop and Fedor would have gone.
How Knows about what could have been,missed opportunities, today the Hammer is long in the tooth, but if he does get real in his training and diet and stays pissed off he still has the ability to end a fight quickly with his old school ways. Coleman gets the right angle on Shogun and he could neck crank him or pound him into next week.
03-10-2006, 04:08 PM
Coleman's not done by any means, but I think he was a little TOO excited to tell everyone that the freak accident "was no accident".
03-13-2006, 02:02 AM
03-13-2006, 11:54 PM
i think u hope too much,, and your imagination goes a little bit too far Rogue,, let's keep it real,, Coleman has been in the game for so many years,, never surprised me much with his fighting style,, all he knows is to take people down and pound them,, (that's what he tries),, bottom line is that Coleman isn't a great fighter at all,, shouldn't be fighting shogun in my opinion,, they are not in the same level,, shogun should be fighting someone like cro-cop,, you know,, someone with a better record
03-19-2006, 06:51 AM
Coleman will get killed by Wanderlei, his fluke win over Shogun is buying the old guy time. Coleman can take Wanderlei down like once then he'll gas and get knocked out when they stand it up.
03-23-2006, 05:12 PM
Silva definately takes out Coleman easy. Coleman and endurance are like 7-up and caffiene -- never had it, never will.
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