Diesel vs. The Country Boy
11-14-2005 06:58 PM
Diesel vs. The Country Boy
Anyone think Joe Riggs will defeat Matt Hughes this weekend? Not me. Hughes by GNP. Franklin by KO. GSP by TKO. Lemme know what you think.
11-14-2005 07:49 PM
I'm going to have to agree with you on this. Riggs is strong, but Hughes is a better all around fighter. I watched the BJ Penn/Hughes fight again a couple of days ago, and that was crazy! It amazes me every time. BJ looked so soft and out of shape, jumped a weight class, and then completely dominated Hughes.
11-14-2005 08:16 PM
Yeah I hear you on the BJ Penn/Hughes fight. It's definitely an excuse, but Hughes did'nt seem to be himself in that fight. If they fought ten times I think Hughes would go 8-2. Riggs is strong, but I think hughes is still stronger. Riggs just has heavy heavy hands that he loves to drop on people. If Hughes can avoid the stand-up he'll be money.
11-14-2005 09:25 PM
I watched the Hughes fight against Frank Trigg last night (rented UFC 52 w/Liddell V. Couture) and boy was that a performance. Trigg knees him in the groin and Hughes contests (big mistake). Trigg proceeds to pound Hughes to the ground, but Hughes hangs on, covers, pulls a complete 180 and ends the match like he did the first against Trigg. I was amazed. On the other hand Riggs was beaten very quick and easy by Ivan Salaverry. Hughes wins without a doubt. Unless Quarry catches Franklin with a lucky shot, Franklin will win because he's a better all around fighter.
11-15-2005 09:54 AM
Hughes will school Riggs. UFC56 is a poor card, not terrible but below average.
Half of the card is mismatches and the other half is a bunch of unknowns.
The only bright spot is GSP-Sherk. GSP is phenomenal and Sherk is one stacked mofo.
11-15-2005 03:27 PM
Sherk will take a beating in my opinion. He has absolutely no standup from what I have seen. Besides, GSP is a machine.
Originally Posted by MarcusG
11-15-2005 06:43 PM
I agree with you Marcus, UFC 56 blows for the most part. Like you said GSP/Sherk should be interesting. If Sherk can keep GSP down he may be able to wear him out. GSP is phenominal and will probably find a way to win, but Sherk is one tuff SOB. The only other decent fight besides the co-mains is Horn/Prangley which could easily be the fight of the night. The other 4 fights seriously belong in KOTC.
11-15-2005 08:39 PM
Then a rematch.
11-15-2005 09:18 PM
The problem is that UFC has had a string of crappy events recently. I didn't buy and didn't even download UFC55. The lack of talent in the LHW/HW divisions are very glaring.
Originally Posted by Alexander
Prangley is competant but not too exciting, maybe he'll step it up in the big show.
11-16-2005 02:47 PM
Yeah, the last ufc's have been been garbage. Same with the last pride... I can't wait for couture/liddell 3 though. Is that happening in February?
11-16-2005 06:58 PM
The last Pride is not garbage. It had Mirko, Barnett, Shamrock, Saku, Kharitonov, Werdum, Ninja, Rampage on the card. It was a B- card at least, and this is after a run of the very good HW GP, LW GP, 2 great Bushidos.
Couture/Liddell 3 is a little boring. If Liddell gets to stay up and keeps throwing, he'll get a TKO.
11-16-2005 08:59 PM
Maybe saying "garbage" was going overboard, but it was a little disappointing to say the least. Kharitnov vs. Werdum wasnt that good. Kharitonov didnt look good in that fight. The Saku vs. Shamrock fight was a complete joke. That stoppage was complete and utter b.s. And i won't even begin to talk about that freakshow fight that started off the card.
Originally Posted by MarcusG
How can you say Couture/Liddell 3 is boring? If Couture wins he further cements his legacy as one of the greats. This is a pick em' fight.
11-17-2005 06:01 PM
The last Pride was not very good by Pride standards. I mean the match-ups were pretty good for the most part, but the fights just did'nt pan out. Kharitonov was injured, and he did look like crap compared to usual. Couture/Liddell 3 should be good. It seems like there's not that much to look forward to nowadays. Hopefully Pride's NYE show will be cool.
11-19-2005 05:50 PM
I was irritated at the quick stoppage as well but upon review of the fight, Shamrock did look out of it and Saku gave 2 quick punches before the ref stopped it. A video clip somewhere shows it quite clearly.
Originally Posted by fbxdan
Couture/Liddell's basic game aren't going to change. Both good wrestlers with boxing/kboxing. It will be a repeat of the 2nd fight. Don't get me wrong, its still going to be entertaining.
11-20-2005 02:10 AM
Just watched the whole card, pretty dissapointing show really. Franklin just killed Quarry and Hughes did his thing. Riggs couldn't make weight so the fight was a non title. Only real fight was GSP vs Sherk and GSP dominated, Sherk had no answers. Franklin is the real deal, as long as he can cut weight to 185 and come into the ring much bigger than most of his foes, and with his hands, he will be tough to handle. I wonder if the siren of money will bring Franklin and Lidell together? I'd like to see it. They also announced a few new signings like BJ Penn coming back and also that Shamrock and Ortiz were gonna be the new coaches for the reality show. Shamrock is either a helluva actor or it looked like he really doesn't like Ortiz and wanted a piece of him. Might be his WWF days reappearing. Overall a pretty bad card but sometimes bad things motivate changes for the better in the long run. I hope so.
11-20-2005 11:02 AM
dead sexy wino
Originally Posted by Blutarski
Pretty much agree with this. One thing that you forgot was Liddell vs Couture III.....coming Feb 4th. I'm betting that RAndy is going to ground and pound instead of trying to stand with Chuck. I can't wait. Also Frank Mir is back from his motorcycle accident. He will be fighting Andre.....I don't see much of a match here as Arlovski will kill him IMO.
GSP is such a great fighter. I can't wait to see him fight Hughes again. He is pretty driven at this point and I think that he'll be a little more careful next time....I'm sure it will come next Spring/Summer.
I was shocked at the way that Franklin just beat the living **** out of Quarry. That knockout was AWESOME (although I felt bad for Nate as he is such a nice guy). I was glad that he was able to get up and speak after that. I guess I haven't given Franklin as much credit as he deserves.....I used to feel the same way about Liddell. I always thought that he was a sloppy fighter and got in lucky punches....not any more though
Watching Shamrock and Tito in UF3 is going to be very entertaining. Does this mean that they will both be fighting in the octagon soon? Usually the coaches will fight after the show. Who would they be fighting (especially Shamrock)?
11-20-2005 11:39 AM
Franklin has some great hands. What did you think about Quarry's nose SJA? Looked like a damn Banana, ugh. GSP put a good pounding on Sherks grill as well. You think there is a chance Franklin and Lidell will ever go at it?
11-20-2005 04:56 PM
dead sexy wino
His nose was SICK!!! When he started quivering like a clubbed fish I got a little scared for him.
Liddell/Franklin may happen....if Couture doesn't school him again. Randy is getting to the retirement age though. If he is smart, he'd go into the commercial and coaching biz and just make a ton of money without getting his ass pounded for a living.
GSP is one of my new fav's now. I love watching him fight. I can't wait until he fights Hughes again. It should be a doozy. That 170 weight class is freakin STACKED with good fighters. Diego is in that one as well. I know that not many people like him, but he certainly brings a good fight....and he is so new. That crowd last night sure hated him LOL.
OK....I recorded the fight on DVR so I'm going to go watch it again
11-20-2005 06:15 PM
Quarry did not not belong in the title fight.
Look at this, he freakin had a Matua-like seizure with one leg and arm stiff.
11-23-2005 08:16 PM
dead sexy wino
good luck partner.....let us know how it goes.
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