who's excited for Lesnar/Overeem?

[Marcinator]

Weren't arlovsky and Sylvia on like 3 fight losing streaks and banned from ufc going into their fights with fedor? as well his many losses in sf were embarrassing. Almost as bad as his "wins" in over these former ufc "greats"

Mike Tyson's final fight and loss to Kevin McBride was "embarrassing" but does anyone make the argument that Kevin McBride was a greater fighter than Tyson?

I don't think so.

[WARBIRDWS6]

AA was on a 5 fight winning streak and the reason for his departure was that his contract expired (Dana expressed regret about letting him get away) and Sylvia lost his previous fight against Nog (which was the interim championship) and asked for his release.

This is just further proof that so many people are new to MMA and have not been following it long enough to make informed opinions.

New? LOL........been there since UFC #1 early 90's. PRIDE for at least half of their run.....Both guys were "released" from UFC either way, obviously they were either not performing or had lost several fights in a row. the whole "i want my release randomly" is pretty fraudulent. I will go look this up to see if what you posted was accurate or not. I don't keep files on each fighter and their W-L, I go by what i recall.........

[WARBIRDWS6]

OK, arlovski lost twice in a row to sylvia in UFC then won 3 straight in UFC before "leaving"......AFTER losing to fedor he went on a 3 fight skid, the one I was referring too (4 fight loss streak including the fedor fight)....I had thought it was during/leading up to the fedor fight. either way, he was getting his ass kicked around in SF for sure and apparently felt he couldn't win the UFC belt, probably the reason he left there. Sylvia lost to coutore and nog and won a decision vs vera before leaving the UFC....pretty close to a 3 fight losing streak, but yeah....he won one inbetween....my bad.... either way I am sure they wanted him out of there, I recall him fighting pisspoor his last fights dancing and running around trying not to get KO'd in UFC then he turned up elsewhere.

[Rodja]

Sylvia's, who beat the hell out of Nog for two rounds before getting submitted, departure:
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/...or-m-1-global/

Dana talking about AA leaving:
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/

[WARBIRDWS6]

Dana is full of shyt. I need not say more about that, how many guys "would never fight in the UFC" have we seen in the UFC? or were allowed to return? He is always talking someone up or down and then his actions are the opposite of his words. OK........but anyways, both arlovski and sylvia share one thing in common....they both seemed to fall out of favor with the UFC in some form or fashion and both made for boring fights towards the end. Too much dancing around, I'm afraid to get KO'd crap.......BOTH of them. As for arlovski, were his last few fights on the main card? the prelims? unaired? I recall his 2 title fight losses vividly, but barely recall any of those wins .....and you can ask comcast, I've been a subscriber to UFC PPV's every year they were broadcast (there were the PPV banishment years in there). Perhaps if you stop talking down to anybody who DARES talk bad about "your fighters" that you seem to favor in a condescending manner ("you guys must be 'new' UFC fans).....and instead understand that not everyone thinks fedor is such a great champion and legend....and not everybody thinks arlovski and sylvia were such great competition post UFC days....you might not be arguing with fellow MMA fans so much.....

[WARBIRDWS6]

Mike Tyson's final fight and loss to Kevin McBride was "embarrassing" but does anyone make the argument that Kevin McBride was a greater fighter than Tyson?

I don't think so.

dude, c'mon now man.......he was submitted by werdum right, then he was beaten half to death and within an inch of his life by bigfoot sylva and hendo.....I was waiting for him to be exposed finally in SF, since I feel his opponents previously left a LOT to be desired.....he avoided overeem as if his life depended on it.....he got lucky beating rogers....then was submitted and then beaten horribly by the next two guys. funny how once he got on Live american TV FINALLY.....he lost 3 in a row, and WOW fighting world class guys in their prime..go figure. He is a fraud, I've said this for years waiting for him to A) fight top competition and B) fight live in the UFC or SF or wherever here in the USA.

[Rodja]

Fighting Nog and CC isn't fighting top competition? There seems to be a lot that you don't recall as you have clearly shown in this thread. The only people that bash Fedor are people that do not have enough knowledge of MMA-plain and simple. Fighters, trainers, analysts....hell, practically anyone not named Dana White all agree that Fedor is a legend and the only other fighter that could be a contender for GOAT is Andy (and I freaking hate Anderson Silva).

[WARBIRDWS6]

Well I have been a fan of MMA for just as long as anybody else.....and I have stated my opinions in here and stand by them. I feel I have posted more than enough info/"proof" to back my statements and beliefs. we'll leave it at that........

[Rodja]

Actually, all you have done deny the counter evidence and focus solely on the latter part of Fedor's career instead of putting into perspective as a whole and the context of his reign. You have to remember that you're not only trashing Fedor, but also Noguiera.

[Marcinator]

Alright... everyone take a breather and enjoy this promo I found:

[WARBIRDWS6]

Lesnar is another overrated fool and bully with no respect for the sport (like tito but bigger). I love to see him get his face caved in. Worth the 55 bucks alone

[mh625]

Well thats cool Rodja after this thread is over maybe u and Fedor can get an apartment together. Lets look at the Hendo and Fedor fight, I am a Hendo fan but do u think he would have even been a challenge for Overeem. I mean u bring up Fedors titles I was just saying Overeem holds the other three biggest titles in combat sports (besides the UFC). I mean unless WAMMA and rings u consider to be huge events full of the greatest fighters. Your right Fedor should have been in line for the SF title after the win against Rogers but Fedor and his management were ducking Overeem. Go ahead and post some bull**** saying he wasnt ducking him, or that Fedor would've stood a chance anyway. I forgot I was talking to MMAs best historian and know it all you r the greatest man don't let anybody tell u different.

[Rodja]

Well thats cool Rodja after this thread is over maybe u and Fedor can get an apartment together. Lets look at the Hendo and Fedor fight, I am a Hendo fan but do u think he would have even been a challenge for Overeem. I mean u bring up Fedors titles I was just saying Overeem holds the other three biggest titles in combat sports (besides the UFC). I mean unless WAMMA and rings u consider to be huge events full of the greatest fighters. Your right Fedor should have been in line for the SF title after the win against Rogers but Fedor and his management were ducking Overeem. Go ahead and post some bull**** saying he wasnt ducking him, or that Fedor would've stood a chance anyway. I forgot I was talking to MMAs best historian and know it all you r the greatest man don't let anybody tell u different.

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[JudgementDay]

lol

Well I can't wait for this fight, I do think Lesnar is underrated, check out the interview with Jay Hieron http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news...nt-animal.html

I think Alistar will win, I think hes in Brocks head, if Overreem can stuff a takedown and land 1 decent shot to Brock, I think Brock is going to worry so much he is gonna get KO'd

I don't know what to think about Fedor, he looks wicked training, all his fights he has looked wicked in, not counting his last 3.........I think the Werdum fight was luck, he had him dropped and was overzealous, same with the Henderson fight. Big Foot there was just too much of a size difference. I would love to see Fedor fight at 205.

[JoHNnyNuTZ]

Still excited for this fight.LOL

[Marcinator]

Still excited for this fight.LOL

Thanks for sticking to the topic... lol... ya man, I am freakin' AMPED for this fight!

[WARBIRDWS6]

lol

Well I can't wait for this fight, I do think Lesnar is underrated, check out the interview with Jay Hieron http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news...nt-animal.html

I think Alistar will win, I think hes in Brocks head, if Overreem can stuff a takedown and land 1 decent shot to Brock, I think Brock is going to worry so much he is gonna get KO'd

I don't know what to think about Fedor, he looks wicked training, all his fights he has looked wicked in, not counting his last 3.........I think the Werdum fight was luck, he had him dropped and was overzealous, same with the Henderson fight. Big Foot there was just too much of a size difference. I would love to see Fedor fight at 205.

Put him in the UFC on a 3 fight contract? He'll be beaten and bloodied or submitted in EVERY ONE of the the 3 fights and dana will send him on his way. He'll be 0-6 in the "big leagues" here in the USA. Dana will not let him fight any stiffs, he'll line him right up with brock or overeem or dos santos (OK I admit he will KO lesnar, but thats it LOL)....whoever. They will bust his ass just like the guys did in SF. I'd LOVE to see it, sign him up dana.

[WARBIRDWS6]

Well thats cool Rodja after this thread is over maybe u and Fedor can get an apartment together. .

LOL, I did laugh at this....pretty funny albeit an old line. Not sure why some people "in the MMA media" or "MMA experts" are so hyped on this guy (fedor)....They so bad want "the legend" to be "true", even when he is beaten and bloodied 3 times in a row....they are exalting him as the greatest ever. I suppose fighting old over the hill decrepit mark coleman who just bear hugged his legs and held on for dear life really put fedors career over the top LOL or maybe it was fighting brett rogers, that was another impressive win. too bad he lost to all the guys who were top flight and in their prime....OH shouldn't the greatest of all time be able to beat those guys? or at least ONE of them? BWA!.......

[JudgementDay]

Just remember Overeem had 3 losses in a row as well, no one ever expected him to turn up at the top. As a fan of Fedor I agree with you, I do want the legend to be true. At the end of the day im an mma fan and would love to see Fedor in the UFC fighting the best win or lose, I want to find out if he has it in him to make a comeback. But come on, he did drop Werdum and Henderson, loss both fights by being overzealous.

[WARBIRDWS6]

Overeem is "another one".....he does come up injured or for whatever reason he can't fight in some big showdown, and he has been on losing streaks.....In the UFC he will have his chance to prove himself to the viewing public just the same as fedor did in SF. Fedor failed miserably, and for overeem the jury is still out. I just hope mr injury/sick #1 and mr injury/sick #2 actually FIGHT this friday lol. I just have this feeling one of them will pull out last minute....they seem to have this in their blood.