[WARBIRDWS6]

Mike Tyson's final fight and loss to Kevin McBride was "embarrassing" but does anyone make the argument that Kevin McBride was a greater fighter than Tyson?

I don't think so.

dude, c'mon now man.......he was submitted by werdum right, then he was beaten half to death and within an inch of his life by bigfoot sylva and hendo.....I was waiting for him to be exposed finally in SF, since I feel his opponents previously left a LOT to be desired.....he avoided overeem as if his life depended on it.....he got lucky beating rogers....then was submitted and then beaten horribly by the next two guys. funny how once he got on Live american TV FINALLY.....he lost 3 in a row, and WOW fighting world class guys in their prime..go figure. He is a fraud, I've said this for years waiting for him to A) fight top competition and B) fight live in the UFC or SF or wherever here in the USA.

[Rodja]

Fighting Nog and CC isn't fighting top competition? There seems to be a lot that you don't recall as you have clearly shown in this thread. The only people that bash Fedor are people that do not have enough knowledge of MMA-plain and simple. Fighters, trainers, analysts....hell, practically anyone not named Dana White all agree that Fedor is a legend and the only other fighter that could be a contender for GOAT is Andy (and I freaking hate Anderson Silva).

[WARBIRDWS6]

Well I have been a fan of MMA for just as long as anybody else.....and I have stated my opinions in here and stand by them. I feel I have posted more than enough info/"proof" to back my statements and beliefs. we'll leave it at that........

[Rodja]

Actually, all you have done deny the counter evidence and focus solely on the latter part of Fedor's career instead of putting into perspective as a whole and the context of his reign. You have to remember that you're not only trashing Fedor, but also Noguiera.

[Marcinator]

Alright... everyone take a breather and enjoy this promo I found:

[WARBIRDWS6]

Lesnar is another overrated fool and bully with no respect for the sport (like tito but bigger). I love to see him get his face caved in. Worth the 55 bucks alone

[mh625]

Well thats cool Rodja after this thread is over maybe u and Fedor can get an apartment together. Lets look at the Hendo and Fedor fight, I am a Hendo fan but do u think he would have even been a challenge for Overeem. I mean u bring up Fedors titles I was just saying Overeem holds the other three biggest titles in combat sports (besides the UFC). I mean unless WAMMA and rings u consider to be huge events full of the greatest fighters. Your right Fedor should have been in line for the SF title after the win against Rogers but Fedor and his management were ducking Overeem. Go ahead and post some bull**** saying he wasnt ducking him, or that Fedor would've stood a chance anyway. I forgot I was talking to MMAs best historian and know it all you r the greatest man don't let anybody tell u different.

[Rodja]

Well thats cool Rodja after this thread is over maybe u and Fedor can get an apartment together. Lets look at the Hendo and Fedor fight, I am a Hendo fan but do u think he would have even been a challenge for Overeem. I mean u bring up Fedors titles I was just saying Overeem holds the other three biggest titles in combat sports (besides the UFC). I mean unless WAMMA and rings u consider to be huge events full of the greatest fighters. Your right Fedor should have been in line for the SF title after the win against Rogers but Fedor and his management were ducking Overeem. Go ahead and post some bull**** saying he wasnt ducking him, or that Fedor would've stood a chance anyway. I forgot I was talking to MMAs best historian and know it all you r the greatest man don't let anybody tell u different.

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[JudgementDay]

lol

Well I can't wait for this fight, I do think Lesnar is underrated, check out the interview with Jay Hieron http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news...nt-animal.html

I think Alistar will win, I think hes in Brocks head, if Overreem can stuff a takedown and land 1 decent shot to Brock, I think Brock is going to worry so much he is gonna get KO'd

I don't know what to think about Fedor, he looks wicked training, all his fights he has looked wicked in, not counting his last 3.........I think the Werdum fight was luck, he had him dropped and was overzealous, same with the Henderson fight. Big Foot there was just too much of a size difference. I would love to see Fedor fight at 205.

[JoHNnyNuTZ]

Still excited for this fight.LOL

[Marcinator]

Still excited for this fight.LOL

Thanks for sticking to the topic... lol... ya man, I am freakin' AMPED for this fight!

[WARBIRDWS6]

lol

Well I can't wait for this fight, I do think Lesnar is underrated, check out the interview with Jay Hieron http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news...nt-animal.html

I think Alistar will win, I think hes in Brocks head, if Overreem can stuff a takedown and land 1 decent shot to Brock, I think Brock is going to worry so much he is gonna get KO'd

I don't know what to think about Fedor, he looks wicked training, all his fights he has looked wicked in, not counting his last 3.........I think the Werdum fight was luck, he had him dropped and was overzealous, same with the Henderson fight. Big Foot there was just too much of a size difference. I would love to see Fedor fight at 205.

Put him in the UFC on a 3 fight contract? He'll be beaten and bloodied or submitted in EVERY ONE of the the 3 fights and dana will send him on his way. He'll be 0-6 in the "big leagues" here in the USA. Dana will not let him fight any stiffs, he'll line him right up with brock or overeem or dos santos (OK I admit he will KO lesnar, but thats it LOL)....whoever. They will bust his ass just like the guys did in SF. I'd LOVE to see it, sign him up dana.

[WARBIRDWS6]

Well thats cool Rodja after this thread is over maybe u and Fedor can get an apartment together. .

LOL, I did laugh at this....pretty funny albeit an old line. Not sure why some people "in the MMA media" or "MMA experts" are so hyped on this guy (fedor)....They so bad want "the legend" to be "true", even when he is beaten and bloodied 3 times in a row....they are exalting him as the greatest ever. I suppose fighting old over the hill decrepit mark coleman who just bear hugged his legs and held on for dear life really put fedors career over the top LOL or maybe it was fighting brett rogers, that was another impressive win. too bad he lost to all the guys who were top flight and in their prime....OH shouldn't the greatest of all time be able to beat those guys? or at least ONE of them? BWA!.......

[JudgementDay]

Just remember Overeem had 3 losses in a row as well, no one ever expected him to turn up at the top. As a fan of Fedor I agree with you, I do want the legend to be true. At the end of the day im an mma fan and would love to see Fedor in the UFC fighting the best win or lose, I want to find out if he has it in him to make a comeback. But come on, he did drop Werdum and Henderson, loss both fights by being overzealous.

[WARBIRDWS6]

Overeem is "another one".....he does come up injured or for whatever reason he can't fight in some big showdown, and he has been on losing streaks.....In the UFC he will have his chance to prove himself to the viewing public just the same as fedor did in SF. Fedor failed miserably, and for overeem the jury is still out. I just hope mr injury/sick #1 and mr injury/sick #2 actually FIGHT this friday lol. I just have this feeling one of them will pull out last minute....they seem to have this in their blood.

[JudgementDay]

Don't say that!!! lol

Now you jinxed it

[WARBIRDWS6]

Don't say that!!! lol

Now you jinxed it

BWAHAHAHA! lets be real, overeem just pulled out of the SF grand prix deal recently, lesnar fell ill what? twice? for big fights.... if I recall correct in the last year or two. its like the battle of the sickly injured big guys......who, if either of them, will make it to the fight in one piece? LOL

[JudgementDay]

BWAHAHAHA! lets be real, overeem just pulled out of the SF grand prix deal recently, lesnar fell ill what? twice? for big fights.... if I recall correct in the last year or two. its like the battle of the sickly injured big guys......who, if either of them, will make it to the fight in one piece? LOL

O no, this reminds me of........

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah, basically the same thing, except they are 260 lb cripples LOL

[mh625]

Yeah they both have had some injuries. I hope this drug testing issue with Overeem is good and the fight actually happens. I do think Overeem pulled out of the SF GP because he had no other fights left that were appealing he already avenged the loss to Werdum and Fedor had been beat up too so why would he stay in the GP to win a chance to fight the SF champ pointless he had the belt already, I think the whole point of the GP was to try and match up him and Fedor.

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah they both have had some injuries. I hope this drug testing issue with Overeem is good and the fight actually happens. I do think Overeem pulled out of the SF GP because he had no other fights left that were appealing he already avenged the loss to Werdum and Fedor had been beat up too so why would he stay in the GP to win a chance to fight the SF champ pointless he had the belt already, I think the whole point of the GP was to try and match up him and Fedor.

yeah but overeem should have run the tournament out just to please the fans.....the fans were looking forward to seeing him fight whoever, especially fedor, but any of the other big names would have sufficed......f-ing over the fans like that might be part of the reason he gets a bad name among many MMA fans. He can't always think about what he wants or what is best for him, sometimes you just gotta fight who they put in front of you and please the mob.

[mh625]

yeah but overeem should have run the tournament out just to please the fans.....the fans were looking forward to seeing him fight whoever, especially fedor, but any of the other big names would have sufficed......f-ing over the fans like that might be part of the reason he gets a bad name among many MMA fans. He can't always think about what he wants or what is best for him, sometimes you just gotta fight who they put in front of you and please the mob.

Yeah thats true I was looking forward to seeing maybe him and Barnett. I was pretty pissed when he backed out.

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah thats true I was looking forward to seeing maybe him and Barnett. I was pretty pissed when he backed out.

That is exactly what I was thinking, barnett vs overeem....what a fight right? I like to see barnett fight just about anybody, that guy is crazy as fuq lol. and oddly enough smart as well.

[rugger48]

lol

Well I can't wait for this fight, I do think Lesnar is underrated, check out the interview with Jay Hieron http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news...nt-animal.html

I think Alistar will win, I think hes in Brocks head, if Overreem can stuff a takedown and land 1 decent shot to Brock, I think Brock is going to worry so much he is gonna get KO'd

I don't know what to think about Fedor, he looks wicked training, all his fights he has looked wicked in, not counting his last 3.........I think the Werdum fight was luck, he had him dropped and was overzealous, same with the Henderson fight. Big Foot there was just too much of a size difference. I would love to see Fedor fight at 205.

Fedor never had a clean shot on werdum in that fight. The punch grazed him and werdum was already falling back when fedor threw it. Werdum just played possum and fedor fell for it hook line and sinker. So no the werdum fight wasn't luck, fedor just got caught.

[Rodja]

Fedor never had a clean shot on werdum in that fight. The punch grazed him and werdum was already falling back when fedor threw it. Werdum just played possum and fedor fell for it hook line and sinker. So no the werdum fight wasn't luck, fedor just got caught.

I agree with this. Too many people are trying to be Fedor detractors due to the Zuffa influence on MMA in the US.