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    Evans vs Jackson


    Just wanted to start talking about this one. I will be rooting for Evans I personally think he is a much more well rounded fighter just has to stay away from Quinton power which is kinda confusing since he has knocked out some really tough guys but couldn't finish some who seem to have weak chins but we'll see what happens


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    not too sure which way I am leaning on this one. I can see Rashad using his speedand explosive wrestling to stay away and take him down. However, I also could see him getting tagged and KTFO like Page did to Wandy.

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    If Evan's puts his chin out there, I dont think Jackson will have any problem putting out his lights. But if Evans stays tucked in, its hard to say

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    Definitely looking forward to this fight.

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    I'm going with Rashad on this one and my fingers are crossed that the fight will indeed turn out to be what we expect. There have been a lot of dissapointing cards in recent past and this is the only one I am actually getting PPV for rather than stream it online for free.
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    im hoping rashad gets KTFO

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    Quote Originally Posted by purelife1 View Post
    im hoping rashad gets KTFO
    Oh u mean like before against Machida

    I really hope to see this 1. I have missed out on the last few ones. Here is praying my friends will want to go chance it and watch the UFC fights on graduation night.

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    evans!!

    i think rampage is too much into becoming a movie star.

    evans is gonna shut him down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Fires View Post
    evans!!

    i think rampage is too much into becoming a movie star.

    evans is gonna shut him down.
    It does seem like Evans is more focused on fighting while Jackson is branching out for lift after fighting. But maybe Jackson hates Evans enough to buckle down. I sure hope so. I want to see a FIGHT not be disappointed.

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    Rampage looking lean and uncharacteristically focused.

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    hmm i duno i watched that last episode and he was walking around very lean at 220-225 they said. trainer also says he came into camp at 250. tells me that he didnt train/eat well at all before camp. how hard is it to cut water from 220 to 205? i never cut weight so i dont know, maybe someone else can weigh in on that. i dont see him leaning out any more so its gonna have to be all water to get to the weight.

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    I think Rashad is trying harder. I dont trust rampage anymore. I want page to win but have a strong feeling rashad evans has this

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Rampage looking lean and uncharacteristically focused.

    this just looks like more popularity for rampage, which seems to be on his mind to me, wheres rashad? he goes to the manditory interviews and thats it, i believe the one keeping the lower profile is gonna win.

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    not the best fight but rashad def got the win with his drunken monkey boxing tactics hehee.
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    now lets see what he can do with Shogun. He will probably be able to control him with his wrestling for a round or two. The question will be....will he be able to maintain that for 5 rounds. I doubt it, although it will be fun to watch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Fires View Post
    not the best fight but rashad def got the win with his drunken monkey boxing tactics hehee.
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    That is not drunken monkey boxing bro, that is REAL boxing, that is the problem with a lot of MMA fighters; they lack good head movement along punching precision. Rashad demonstrated that he is an evolved MMA fighter, although I do not see him beating ShoGun due to the devestating low leg kicks he will bring to stabilize Rashad's footwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    That is not drunken monkey boxing bro, that is REAL boxing, that is the problem with a lot of MMA fighters; they lack good head movement along punching precision. Rashad demonstrated that he is an evolved MMA fighter, although I do not see him beating ShoGun due to the devestating low leg kicks he will bring to stabilize Rashad's footwork.
    No, that was a wrestling stance. Literally. Haha.

    And in reality, Rampage's boxing fundamentals are far more sound than Rashad's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    No, that was a wrestling stance. Literally. Haha.

    And in reality, Rampage's boxing fundamentals are far more sound than Rashad's.
    Yes it was a wrestling stance while boxing, its MMA not boxing, secondly bro, based on what I have seen, Rashad has a better boxing concept thatn Rampage, why, because he does not punch to push insides the body, rather he punches to barely touch so that he has enough time to pull back his hand for defensive/footwork purposes, trust me its one of my bases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Yes it was a wrestling stance while boxing, its MMA not boxing
    Indeed - but it had nothing to do with maintaining a proper orthodox stance whatsoever (which Rashad would be, given he is right handed).

    His knees were bent to maximize explosiveness with the TD; his feet were narrow, with his lead foot far further in front than one would normally see with an orthodox stance; his body was tilted at the hips, with a straight back, and his elbows were near the thighs for full extension of the arm to grab hold of Rampage during the shot. In other words, he maintained a proper wrestling base with ready penetration step to either a) clinch against the fence or b) shoot in for the double leg TD - you know, exactly the game plan he executed.

    This was a wrestling stance, and that is what the other poster was alluding to: why Rashad was so incredibly low with a ready penetration step. Like so:

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    Look familiar?

    secondly bro, based on what I have seen, Rashad has a better boxing concept thatn Rampage, why, because he does not punch to push insides the body, rather he punches to barely touch so that he has enough time to pull back his hand for defensive/footwork purposes, trust me its one of my bases.
    He has quick hands, but his boxing base, if we are talking about orthodox boxing, is far worse than Rampage's - I think you may be confusing the speed of his footwork and his more dynamic striking for a "good base." In reality, Rampage's hand positioning, tucked chin and the closer and more diagonal positioning of his feet gives him a) a better boxing defense than Rashad and b) a better ability to counter, in particular with the lead left or right hook. Again, I think you are letting their respective speeds fool you slightly here.

    This is MMA, so overall, due to speed and athleticism, I may consider deeming Rashad the more "effective" striker "overall," but in terms of boxing fundamentals (what we are talking about) there is really no contest. So, if it is one of your bases, may be time to brush up!

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    That was a boring fight. It was like watching Randy Couture push someone against the cage without the dirty boxing thrown in.

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