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    Quote Originally Posted by anak View Post
    Someone commented if a celebrity wife hit their husband that no one would care. Well name me a 200+ lb woman who is a former collegiate wrestler and UFC champion who beats their husband and I'll agree with you. I've knocked out a guy, knocked his jaw into his ear almost for hitting a woman before and would again in a heartbeat. I just see red and don't care if it's a midget or a 400lb gorilla (although women are the dominant sex in many gorilla clans so it'd be an exception).
    So if a 125lb man beats his 200lb obese wife, it is acceptable then? Sorry, that is not how abuse, physical or otherwise, works. There are various means of inflicting damage and almost all abuse victims will say the psychological and emotional damage far and away surpasses the physical damage inflicted upon them.

    And by the way, in most instances, female-to-male abuse involves the use of weapons - so, I really do not need to show you a 200+lb former collegiate wrestler, as a 150lb woman with a bat, a pot, a pan, etc., can be quite persuasive. (It is much more prevalent than you think, by the way.) I am also sure that male abuse victims are comforted knowing that you would defend them should a 400lb female gorilla attack them, which is apparently the only legitimate instance of female-to-male abuse.

    At any rate, that was not my point. The point is the massive double standard that exists with regard to popular opinion on instances of domestic abuse: if a man is suspected of physically abusing his wife, then he is convicted a priori in the court of public opinion; if a female is suspected of the same act, with the same legal ramifications, same outcome on the victim, we let it slide. The fact is this: no spouse, male or female, should abuse their spouse, male or female. The disgusting nature of beating somebody and violating the trust of a supposed love one is not dependent on the victim having a penis or a vagina.

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    There is a different standard for men and women in regards to domestic violence. Look at how hard it is for a man in most areas to obtain RO or OOP even with proof of abuse... The legal system is designed to protect people from being wrongfully accused and forced into becoming a convict if innocent. That is why people become mad at the legal system when they know or hear about a victim. But if those same people were ever charged with a crime they will realize how much weight any criminal charges carry and the burden it brings for a defense. I personally choose to wait for verdict from a criminal court...

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    No, I am not condoning or excusing the alleged actions of the man. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mildot View Post
    There is a different standard for men and women in regards to domestic violence...I personally choose to wait for verdict from a criminal court....
    I could not agree more.
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    I've been accused of domestic violence in the past. Let me just say that even though this case could be true, it is also very possible that Jenna has a motive for accusing him of this that we will probably never know about. When I was accused of mine I didn't even touch the girl. But, she realized just having a police report against me for DV, she could take full custody of my son. Thankfully my brain was able to disprove her story. Give the man the benifit of the doubt until all the facts are present. Us men get screwed enough by the legal syatem the way it is.
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    all i gotta say is what was he thinking even marrying/getting together with this broad???? im sure he used to watch her movies and all but you gotta know deep down that shes gonna come with a whole bag of issues. if not physical (herp, etc) then definitely mental. thats like marrying a rockstar and hoping hes got a clean bill of health. with that said i hope it works out for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    all i gotta say is what was he thinking even marrying/getting together with this broad???? im sure he used to watch her movies and all but you gotta know deep down that shes gonna come with a whole bag of issues. if not physical (herp, etc) then definitely mental. thats like marrying a rockstar and hoping hes got a clean bill of health. with that said i hope it works out for him
    True dat. Also,

    Tito Ortiz, Jenna Jameson Take it Back

    Originally posted Apr 29th 2010 10:08 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

    TMZ has learned former UFC champ Tito Ortiz and baby mama/former porn star Jenna Jameson are withdrawing allegations that led to Tito's felony domestic violence arrest earlier this week.



    Jenna, who accused Tito of injuring her during an argument, now tells TMZ, "What actually happened has now been dramatically distorted and misinterpreted and remarks that both Tito and I made after the police arrived reflect the state of shock that we were both in." Translation -- he didn't hurt me.

    As for Tito, we're told he's now backing off what he strongly insinuated ... that Jenna is an OxyContin addict. We're told Tito's position now is that he found two OxyContin pills and may have jumped to conclusions. Jenna says the pills were very old. And, as we first reported, Jenna tested negative for drugs this week.

    Tito's lawyer, Chip Matthews, tells TMZ the whole thing was "a big misunderstanding."

    One more thing ... Sources say Tito stands to lose $15 million if he's prosecuted for domestic violence -- the money accounts for his UFC contract as well as other businesses.
    http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/29/tito-o...#ixzz0mWS7PGq9


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    Apparantly jenna just took a drug test, and it came up clean.

    edit :didnt catch the se4cond part of the above post. looks like they deserve each other. Hope Danna cuts his ass anyway.
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    i think his fighting career is done anyway, didnt he hurt the old back again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    i think his fighting career is done anyway, didnt he hurt the old back again?
    He last reported multiple cervical herniations, then took it back, then re-admitted to the injuries. I'm not sure which side of the fence he's currently on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    He last reported multiple cervical herniations, then took it back, then re-admitted to the injuries. I'm not sure which side of the fence he's currently on.
    lol oh well, maybe we will see what happened on the show. maybe he really didnt wanna fight chuck and faked it???
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    Jenna will be just fine. She's a tough chick, I've seen her take shots to the face before LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by anak View Post
    I've never hit a woman and I've never stolen a thing in my life. I've never even cheated on a woman so I can add to that as well. So yeh I can talk however the hell I want, SINNER or SAINT. You sound like white trash posting about 3rd world countries on here and how they do what they do. Ya sound like GW Bush. I'm not calling you white trash and for all I know you could be an Emperor of Japan but I'm just saying what you wrote sounds pedestrian.

    In light of what seems to be the case I do have sympathy for Ortiz. I initially assumed after hearing the details that he may have treated her roughly in trying to save her from herself but without malicious intent. Ortiz is a large man at 6'1 and well over 200lbs (I'm sure he walks around at 225). But the fact that he is adamant that he never TOUCHED her makes me think either he really never touched her or that it was more than him trying to restrain her. I know for myself I did have an issue with a woman I cared about who had an addiction problem. I never hit her but did restrain on several occasions which did leave marks on her arms. I never meant to hurt her and only wanted to save her from doing something that would kill herself. In the end you can't turn mud into gold though. I think Tito learned this. But in cases of domestic abuse its taken too lightly. Someone commented if a celebrity wife hit their husband that no one would care. Well name me a 200+ lb woman who is a former collegiate wrestler and UFC champion who beats their husband and I'll agree with you. I've knocked out a guy, knocked his jaw into his ear almost for hitting a woman before and would again in a heartbeat. I just see red and don't care if it's a midget or a 400lb gorilla (although women are the dominant sex in many gorilla clans so it'd be an exception).
    haha actually im not white dumb****,and i guess i struck a nerve because your probably from a 3rd world country? Sorry but you loose all respect when you say you hope tito gets raped in jail. This countries legal system has limitations for punishments thats why the government has checks and blances so an idiot like you doesnt get in charge to make stupid rules, and im sure you havent done anything wrong in your life please
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    I think everyone knows deep down what you said mullet. People jsut say **** because they hate him. Hes sad because this can hurt his career and everyone knows he loves money. Also im sure he hates how it might give MMa some bad press as well as sh!ts done with him and Jenna. Of course this will hurt him. I bet he didnt do anything. Shes a stupid person. Can you believe a Porn star? There has to be something wrong with a female to do that kind of stuff. Something that happened to her when she was young. I dont like Tito but I hope it turns out ok in his favor.
    I'm not a fan of his but I too hope this ends up in his favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dchristo View Post
    Jenna will be just fine. She's a tough chick, I've seen her take shots to the face before LOL
    good one lmfao
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    Quote Originally Posted by brownstown89 View Post
    i love all the saints who post here...

    If he really did do this let him go to jail and get raped or throw him in the ring vs carwin? wtf get a ****ing life... Thank god this country has reasonable legal actions... maybe you wall should move to some 3rd world country where when you steal you get ur hands cutoff etc... since none of you seem to make a mistake...

    ANd im not even protecting tito, if he beat her hit her etc.. take him to jail, but punish him according to the law not according to some dbag opinons on the messages boards... damn
    Saints? no one claimed to be a saint but I sure as hell don't beat/hit women. And was raised that if I ever did I would get the **** kicked out of me. And no I don't feel the need to move to some 3rd world country but we could learn from the a few laws that most share, the punishments imposed by us only prove to backfire in the end and offenders keep ****ing up repeatedly b/c they know the punishment is small. I think you need to calm down a little bit there big guy.

    And if you think this country has reasonable legal actions when it comes to abuse you are sadly misinformed. But what would I know! I'm just one of the dbags".
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    crimes against anyone who is less capable of defending themselves.. women, children, handicapped, elderly, etc etc are especially vicious in my opinion and those offenders deserve swift and extreme punishments.

    Agree or Disagree it's your choice. But don't make that judgment until you've had to console someone at 3am after being rapped. I would gladly take that cowards life if I ever find him. Because that's what he did to someone I love. Her life will NEVER be the same. Why should his.

    So F*CK yes I'm extremely harsh when it comes to punishments
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    damn i suddenly have the urge to beat someones azz.
    and to everyone whos bitching, go eat an onion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Fires View Post
    damn i suddenly have the urge to beat someones azz.
    and to everyone whos bitching, go eat an onion!
    same here ...
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    Yeah, to hell with those illegal immigrants. Stay outta this country, more specifically Arizona.
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    Woops, wrong thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8te View Post
    Saints? no one claimed to be a saint but I sure as hell don't beat/hit women. And was raised that if I ever did I would get the **** kicked out of me. And no I don't feel the need to move to some 3rd world country but we could learn from the a few laws that most share, the punishments imposed by us only prove to backfire in the end and offenders keep ****ing up repeatedly b/c they know the punishment is small. I think you need to calm down a little bit there big guy.

    And if you think this country has reasonable legal actions when it comes to abuse you are sadly misinformed. But what would I know! I'm just one of the dbags".
    obviously you dont know much about the history of the US. How about we let the legal system play it self out see if he was guilty or not. If he is hes going to jail, and if you dont like the punishment then elect new leaders, vote differently etc.. Obviously the elected leaders enforce the punishment and you elected the leaders so tough luck we have the best system in the world so you need too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownstown89 View Post
    obviously you dont know much about the history of the US. How about we let the legal system play it self out see if he was guilty or not. If he is hes going to jail, and if you dont like the punishment then elect new leaders, vote differently etc.. Obviously the elected leaders enforce the punishment and you elected the leaders so tough luck we have the best system in the world so you need too..

    Psssh. I love it when people talk out of their ass.

    Even the best systems have flaws. Not that u would notice, I think your ignorance might be blinding you.

    Maybe I should ask u this: What exactly do you think should be the punishment for spousal abuse given the circumstances of this case? And try to contribute more to the thread than just the overuse of that stupid sign this time.

    I can't wait to hear this response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8te View Post
    Psssh. I love it when people talk out of their ass.

    Even the best systems have flaws. Not that u would notice, I think your ignorance might be blinding you.

    Maybe I should ask u this: What exactly do you think should be the punishment for spousal abuse given the circumstances of this case? And try to contribute more to the thread than just the overuse of that stupid sign this time.

    I can't wait to hear this response.
    exactly the best system has its flaws as well. My ignorance isnt blinding me reality is we have the best system overall. I still think its laughable that your saying that he should get raped in prison, why cant the man get his trial? why have you avoided that question? Please tell me why he cant get his trial and he should be thrown in prison to be raped? To you beating his spouse deserves cruel and unsual punishment (violation of the constitution). Try to start a movement big buy, try to write a letter to your congressman and see how far you get with that haha idiot...

    So mike vick should have been thrown into a bunch of hungry dogs so they could kill him right? The guy who shot the Broncos CB out at a night club should be shot in public as well right?

    sorrry we have a consititution for a reason. I think the punishment should be whatever the judges decide. You kno the people we elected for congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brownstown89 View Post
    exactly the best system has its flaws as well. My ignorance isnt blinding me reality is we have the best system overall. I still think its laughable that your saying that he should get raped in prison, why cant the man get his trial? why have you avoided that question? Please tell me why he cant get his trial and he should be thrown in prison to be raped? To you beating his spouse deserves cruel and unsual punishment (violation of the constitution). Try to start a movement big buy, try to write a letter to your congressman and see how far you get with that haha idiot...

    So mike vick should have been thrown into a bunch of hungry dogs so they could kill him right? The guy who shot the Broncos CB out at a night club should be shot in public as well right?

    sorrry we have a consititution for a reason. I think the punishment should be whatever the judges decide. You kno the people we elected for congress.
    Best" can be measured a numerous amount of ways. We might have the "best system" to you but the flaws make it very unfortunate for the victims. Wait until some guy beats on some bitch" that related to you and see how you think he should be treated. I can almost guarantee you that you won't think the punishment fits the crime.

    I never said that he shouldn't get his trail. I only said what I thought would help the old guy learn a lesson and not do it again (being put in the ring w/ a top notch fighter to get beat on). That would be me saying what I think an appropriate punishment would be in his case, not that he shouldn't have a trial. If you want to laugh at something then laugh at the fact that you keep mis-quoting me b/c I also never said the guy should be raped.

    I never said I was trying to start some "movement" and its not like productive "movements" even happen anymore.

    Vic - I think he is a ghetto piece of ****. The guy makes millions of dollars and still acts like hes still in the hood and fights dogs? The guy is trash, he doesn't need that money, he doesn't live in the hood, he just thinks its funny to watch animals starve and then fight/kill each other. That's pretty messed up. His punishment should have been what it was, at least he didn't get off with a year like most celebs do for almost anything they do to break the law. Make enough money and you won't ever do all the time.

    Yes we have a constitution for a reason I am aware of it, I study it now and studied it in school. You're stating the obvious. I don't understand what your next two sentences mean when read together though: Here I will ACCURATELY quote what you said: "I think the punishment should be whatever the judges decide. You kno the people we elected for congress."
    Congressmen/women are not judges. The people we elected for congress are are the people that make laws and the judges are part of the judicial branch and they interpret the laws. Perhaps you meant to type "I think the punishment should be whatever the judge decides. You know, the people approved by the senate." (if you were talking of supreme court justices) IF you were talking about other lower court judges then you would have said "we" elect b/c we vote those into their positions or did you mean other federal positions congress nominates for? Specificity is key.

    I hope its clear you're not talking to an "idiot" now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8te View Post
    Best" can be measured a numerous amount of ways. We might have the "best system" to you but the flaws make it very unfortunate for the victims. Wait until some guy beats on some bitch" that related to you and see how you think he should be treated. I can almost guarantee you that you won't think the punishment fits the crime.

    I never said that he shouldn't get his trail. I only said what I thought would help the old guy learn a lesson and not do it again (being put in the ring w/ a top notch fighter to get beat on). That would be me saying what I think an appropriate punishment would be in his case, not that he shouldn't have a trial. If you want to laugh at something then laugh at the fact that you keep mis-quoting me b/c I also never said the guy should be raped.

    I never said I was trying to start some "movement" and its not like productive "movements" even happen anymore.

    Vic - I think he is a ghetto piece of ****. The guy makes millions of dollars and still acts like hes still in the hood and fights dogs? The guy is trash, he doesn't need that money, he doesn't live in the hood, he just thinks its funny to watch animals starve and then fight/kill each other. That's pretty messed up. His punishment should have been what it was, at least he didn't get off with a year like most celebs do for almost anything they do to break the law. Make enough money and you won't ever do all the time.

    Yes we have a constitution for a reason I am aware of it, I study it now and studied it in school. You're stating the obvious. I don't understand what your next two sentences mean when read together though: Here I will ACCURATELY quote what you said: "I think the punishment should be whatever the judges decide. You kno the people we elected for congress."
    Congressmen/women are not judges. The people we elected for congress are are the people that make laws and the judges are part of the judicial branch and they interpret the laws. Perhaps you meant to type "I think the punishment should be whatever the judge decides. You know, the people approved by the senate." (if you were talking of supreme court justices) IF you were talking about other lower court judges then you would have said "we" elect b/c we vote those into their positions or did you mean other federal positions congress nominates for? Specificity is key.

    I hope its clear you're not talking to an "idiot" now.
    I dont think your an idiot at all, you make valid points. Ive had a aunt who was beat, but the problem is you cant give out beatings as punishment. You have to go by the rulebook. I mean you think it really affects Tito if he gets a felony. He has Money he will still get girls and he will live comfortably.

    I also agree the judcial system has flaws i mean Lawernce Taylor is getting charged with rape because he had sex with a 16 year old. Now did he know her age its very possible he didnt. But the more important part i feel getting over looked is why ISNT he getting charged for ****ing a girl who wasnt willing too? There overlooking that part its baffliling?
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    Dumbass? Shut the **** up? Wow you were brought up in a good home bro. Your mom must be a hell of a lady to raise you to talk like that. Real classy dame.

    You're not white? Well I am and us white folk are scard of other races. The Iraq, umm the colored folk, and those Chineeese all are scareeeyyy. Ok obviously you have no education. "This countries legal system has limitations for punishments thats why the government has checks and blances " Umm balances yeh we do but you took it out of context. The precept of "Checks and balances" applies more to the House and Senate. As for limitations, we DO have a death penalty unlike Canada. We ARE the only country to use the Atomic Bomb, we DO torture prisoners. Umm where's the limitation? We don't enforce the law when it's not of economic interest to those in power. Yeh and I'm a WHITE MAN saying this dummy. Your logic is as skewed as a dwarf trying to dunk on Dwight Howard. What race are you btw cause no Asians, Whites, and Blacks I ever met are THAT stupid. Bryce, GO TO COLLEGE or get your GED. Bryce? LOLOLOL Your parent's were hoping for a girl and were to lazy to change the name or something? sheez

    And yeh I have my sins. I stole a coffee bean when I was 5 and I beat a kid in 6th grade.


    Quote Originally Posted by brownstown89 View Post
    haha actually im not white dumb****,and i guess i struck a nerve because your probably from a 3rd world country? Sorry but you loose all respect when you say you hope tito gets raped in jail. This countries legal system has limitations for punishments thats why the government has checks and blances so an idiot like you doesnt get in charge to make stupid rules, and im sure you havent done anything wrong in your life please
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    Quote Originally Posted by anak View Post
    Oh cool an Internet tough guy! I love these dudes.


    Dumbass? Shut the **** up? Wow you were brought up in a good home bro. Your mom must be a hell of a lady to raise you to talk like that. Real classy dame.

    You're not white? Well I am and us white folk are scard of other races. The Iraq, umm the colored folk, and those Chineeese all are scareeeyyy. Ok obviously you have no education. "This countries legal system has limitations for punishments thats why the government has checks and blances " Umm balances yeh we do but you took it out of context. The precept of "Checks and balances" applies more to the House and Senate. As for limitations, we DO have a death penalty unlike Canada. We ARE the only country to use the Atomic Bomb, we DO torture prisoners. Umm where's the limitation? We don't enforce the law when it's not of economic interest to those in power. Yeh and I'm a WHITE MAN saying this dummy. Your logic is as skewed as a dwarf trying to dunk on Dwight Howard. What race are you btw cause no Asians, Whites, and Blacks I ever met are THAT stupid. Bryce, GO TO COLLEGE or get your GED. Bryce? LOLOLOL Your parent's were hoping for a girl and were to lazy to change the name or something? sheez

    And yeh I have my sins. I stole a coffee bean when I was 5 and I beat a kid in 6th grade.
    haha you are a idiot, cool i cuss? i dont really care that has nothing to do with my mother. Who uses the word Dame btw? lol loser. Lets see your also a f'n racist saying "us white folk". Talking about GEDs maybe you shuold learn plurals. Its us white FOLKS, notice the S at the end. Also who the hell is Bryce? haha retard. No Checks and Balances is with the judicial system as well. For instance the NFL suspended the Williams DT from the vikings for using a supplement that made them test positive for drugs. THe ingredient wasnt listed on the supplement so they appealed all the way up to the supreme court. There you go idiot checks and balances in the judicial system. Im sure torturing of prisoners has happened but we dont use it, big difference.

    also you drag out your words like a teenage girl, and you put LOL LOL LOL your a dbag go lift some weight *****
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    Wow...Cool Guy in person though!


    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    We're told someone called 911 today at 9:53 AM and reported a "disturbance."

    Tito is currently in custody and on his way to a Huntington Beach jail in Orange County, CA.

    TMZ has learned Tito Ortiz was just arrested for felony domestic violence at the home he shares with Jenna Jameson.

    We're told when cops arrived at the couple's home in Huntington Beach, CA -- Jenna Jameson had "visible injuries."

    BUDDHASPORT.COM - Mixed Martial Arts - It's more then a sport, it's a lifestyle. - Nicholas Mirabella's article - Tito Ortiz arrested for felony domestic violence. (UPDATED with video)
    Met This guy in Vegas, he's actually really chill. They all spin the story one-sided when its like this... You never know what REALLY happened. I.E. Chris Brown and Rihanna. Rihanna has a past full of violence and aggressive behavior also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    Met This guy in Vegas, he's actually really chill. They all spin the story one-sided when its like this... You never know what REALLY happened. I.E. Chris Brown and Rihanna. Rihanna has a past full of violence and aggressive behavior also.
    Add the visibility factor and his profession... how can you not spin it, especially if you want a good story
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    Old news, but even Tito's ex-wife publicly said that he wouldn't do something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Add the visibility factor and his profession... how can you not spin it, especially if you want a good story
    Exactly... You only try to sell something you KNOW people will buy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Old news, but even Tito's ex-wife publicly said that he wouldn't do something like that.
    Exactly my point
  

  
 

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