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    Strikeforce 4/17


    Just wanted to see what u guys thought about the upcoming strikeforce event. I personally think it is a very good main card. It sucks I won't get to watch it since I am in Afganistan. I don't think they will air it on afn like they do the ufc events. All I am saying is go Hendo, he is facing a very durable opponent though in Jake Sheilds. I see it ending with a heavy Henderson right hand.

    The other bout that is interesting is The Mousasi/Lawal bout I just don't know how this one will turn out guess I will have to read about it.

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    Hendo fight should be great. Hopefully he beats Jake and then Jake will be heading to the UFC.
    I'm really looking forward to Gilbert Melendez vs. Shinya Aoki. This will give everyone an idea of how Aoki would stand up against a lot of the UFC LWs, IMO.
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    I am anxious to see it after missing the last UFC ppv.
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    I am not looking forward to this due to Aoki not being able to wear his bright yellow tights
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    I am anxious to see it after missing the last UFC ppv.
    if you are talking about saturdays UFC ppv, you didnt miss a thing
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    Real nice card, especially for free. Oh how I hope for an Aoki loss
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Real nice card, especially for free. Oh how I hope for an Aoki loss
    lol you dont like his bird flipping/arm snapping antics?
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    not a huge fans
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    most important fight is mo/gegard. this will show if mo is really as good as he looked the past couple fights. also this is the last fight on gegard's M1 contract so will we see him in the ufc??
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    most important fight is mo/gegard. this will show if mo is really as good as he looked the past couple fights. also this is the last fight on gegard's M1 contract so will we see him in the ufc??
    He still has fights left on his contract with SF/Dream, but I can't find anything about the exact number.
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    should be a good card...looks like thier may card on showtime will be better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    He still has fights left on his contract with SF/Dream, but I can't find anything about the exact number.
    I believe I read somewhere, that it was relatively short, but that his people are in renegotiations with SF. Kinda curious to see how good Mo is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    most important fight is mo/gegard. this will show if mo is really as good as he looked the past couple fights. also this is the last fight on gegard's M1 contract so will we see him in the ufc??
    I could be wrong, but I think I read somewhere the Gegard signed another relatively lengthy contract with strikeforce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think I read somewhere the Gegard signed another relatively lengthy contract with strikeforce.
    that suuuuucks he definitely has the talent to clean out ufc's 205, no offense to any ufc fan boys in attendance here
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    I think Lawal might be a handful for the dutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    that suuuuucks he definitely has the talent to clean out ufc's 205, no offense to any ufc fan boys in attendance here
    Aoki can't wear his threads on CBS? bunch uh racists man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    Aoki can't wear his threads on CBS? bunch uh racists man.
    It's against the unified rules to wear those type of pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mh625 View Post
    I think Lawal might be a handful for the dutch.
    gegard is armenian he used to fight on a dutch team, you gotta watch some of his fights. Mo has been fighting cans like Kerr and mike whitehead. Mo is very quick and has amazing wrestling and crisp boxing, but gegard is definitely a complete package. plus he trains with fedor. ok done swinging on nuts
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    I am excited to see the Gegard/Mo fight, but I think it benefits Mo much more than Gegard. If Mo even stays competitive with Gegard, his stock rises; Gegard, however, has to put Mo away convincingly to keep his mystique up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    He still has fights left on his contract with SF/Dream, but I can't find anything about the exact number.
    True, but SF and Dream almost always have open contracts which means he is free to fight anywhere as long as he fullfills his obligations to SF and/or Dream. That means if Dana REALLY wants him that bad, he will need to have a similar contract.....which I don't see happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kegger View Post
    True, but SF and Dream almost always have open contracts which means he is free to fight anywhere as long as he fullfills his obligations to SF and/or Dream. That means if Dana REALLY wants him that bad, he will need to have a similar contract.....which I don't see happening.
    Not on their top talent. They generally have contracts that allow them to only fight in the US for SF and in Japan for Dream.
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    [QUOTE=AntonG42O;2383633]that suuuuucks he definitely has the talent to clean out ufc's 205, no offense to any ufc fan boys in attendance here[/QUOTL

    Plenty of people have the talent to do things. Mousasi has beaten a washed up Babalu and Sokoudjou... I really don't see how he has proven himself at LHW much. I just don't get the dikkriding before proving anything mentality. He hasn't beaten a top ten LHW and a lot of ppl have him ranked at #4 or 5.
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    [quote=Alexander;2388050]
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    that suuuuucks he definitely has the talent to clean out ufc's 205, no offense to any ufc fan boys in attendance here[/QUOTL

    Plenty of people have the talent to do things. Mousasi has beaten a washed up Babalu and Sokoudjou... I really don't see how he has proven himself at LHW much. I just don't get the dikkriding before proving anything mentality. He hasn't beaten a top ten LHW and a lot of ppl have him ranked at #4 or 5.
    he had a few fights besides that...submitted big a$$ Mark Hunt, upkicked Jacare to death, triangled Manhoef, triangled Kang, decisioned Hector Lombard who is a monster. hes got a bunch of fight experience even though it may be against guys that dont make headlines. ive also watched his grappling and kickboxing matches. he hasnt fought too many top opponents because they havent given them to him, there is always the build up proccess and the organizations hes fought in dont have the popular names that UFC does.
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    plus he trains with Fedor!!! is that not enough??!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    plus he trains with Fedor!!! is that not enough??!?
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    Well......Mousasi signed for 2 more years.

    My predictions for the main 3 fights tonight:
    Henderson via UD (in what could be a boring fight)
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    Aoki via sub rd 2
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    [quote=AntonG42O;2388278]
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    he had a few fights besides that...submitted big a$$ Mark Hunt, upkicked Jacare to death, triangled Manhoef, triangled Kang, decisioned Hector Lombard who is a monster. hes got a bunch of fight experience even though it may be against guys that dont make headlines. ive also watched his grappling and kickboxing matches. he hasnt fought too many top opponents because they havent given them to him, there is always the build up proccess and the organizations hes fought in dont have the popular names that UFC does.
    You seem to assume everyone only watches UFC. I've seen all of his fights. Jacare fight didn't really prove much, Manhoef has great striking but is easy to sub, Kang has proved he is nothing special, Lombard is a great wrestler, but all of those fighters are middleweights was my point. At LHW he hasn't done anything yet. I think its way premature to say he can clean out the ufc 205 division. I always preferred Pride over the UFC and now the UFC is getting even worse, but clean out 205 meh. That **** is stacked. I don't think you'd have to be a "ufc fanboy" to think thats way premature. He's definitely talented, I just need to see more of him at 205. Mo is a solid test for him. I'm actually picking Mo to upset him via superior wrestling and athleticism. Lets just hope Mousasi doesn't run into Gono
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    Hendo via TKO
    Mo via unanimous dec
    Melendez via TKO
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    I say KING...you say MO! I called that ****t. Mousasi is ridiculously overrated. He can easily clean out the ufc lhw division, but he can't fukk with MO, hahaha. Thanks Mo, won me 150 bucks on betus as well.
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    People rag on Mike Goldberg, and rightfully so, but given the alternative of SF's broadcast team, I will take him. Renallo and Shamrock semi-bickering throughout the analysis was distracting, and Renallo truly looked like a moron as the broadcast was coming to a close and he was jockeying for position with Jake Shields so he could say how "disgusting" Mayhem Miller was.

    While the UFC's production value will never compare to PRIDE's, or even DREAM's for that matter, SF looked like a rink-a-dink promotion in comparison tonight. The broadcast ran too long, the analysts were just horrid and it looked as if I built the walk-in ramp and exit.

    As for the fights, I am a bit confused as to whether Mousassi, Aoki and Henderson underperformed, or if Mo, Melendez and Shields were truly better. I think the a little of both for each fight, though I feel Melendez just exposed Aoki for a one-dimensional grappler who is lost when there is a cage to cut off his angles, and negate his sub attempts.

    Shields' performance drummed up a bit more interest in a potential GSP/Shields match-up should Shields sign with the UFC - which he probably will - though his stand-up looked a bit rudimentary. Given that Shields could take Henderson down, it would be interesting to see how the fight with GSP would play out. I still have a feeling that GSP's more dynamic stand-up and better athleticism - speaking in comparison to Hendo - would put Shields in trouble, but he is a credible threat at 170, something the UFC desperately needs.

    Melendez really did fight the perfect fight against Aoki, and I wish he would have mangled his face into oblivion. I hate Aoki, Melendez was much better. Enough said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    plus he trains with Fedor!!! is that not enough??!?
    Fedor Who? Mousse assi sure looked like a can himself....worse than many of the cans he has beaten. I have no loyalty to the UFC but let's call a spade a spade! Most of the talent that so called champions in strikeforce etc., are fighting UFC rejects or UFC wannabes. When you fight lower level competition it makes you look good. Even sexyama came to UFC to fight the best.

    Mousasi and Mo both looked like beginners in there. Sheilds layed an preyed and could not finish even with a full mount with those pillow hands of his. The list goes on and on.

    Fedor needs to step up and shut up and the nuthuggers need a good dose of reality. The cream rises to the top and for now the UFC has most of the top level competition. There is tons of money for him to make in the UFC if he is as good as he likes to think he is and everyone needs to stop using money as an excuse and realize he's hand picking his fights.

    Yeah Yeah Yeah....he beat Crop Cop and Nogeira and now their both conveniently past their prime since they are in the UFC and truly fully exposed.
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    Man StrikeForce is some BS with running over a good 30 minutes. I tried tivoing it and added an extra 10 minutes so I only saw 5 minutes of the fight. Boo Shields winning though. He would have no chance against GSP.
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    First, I cant predict for anything. Got all 3 wrong :tsk:

    Second, props to Melendez for a smart plan and sticking to it.

    Third, Mousasi was downright awful, showed little to nothing standing or off his back. Horribly boring fight

    Finally, I give credit to Shields for being smart, but Dan looked 39. I will be interested to see Jake in the UFC regardless of weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    People rag on Mike Goldberg, and rightfully so, but given the alternative of SF's broadcast team, I will take him. Renallo and Shamrock semi-bickering throughout the analysis was distracting, and Renallo truly looked like a moron as the broadcast was coming to a close and he was jockeying for position with Jake Shields so he could say how "disgusting" Mayhem Miller was.

    While the UFC's production value will never compare to PRIDE's, or even DREAM's for that matter, SF looked like a rink-a-dink promotion in comparison tonight. The broadcast ran too long, the analysts were just horrid and it looked as if I built the walk-in ramp and exit.

    As for the fights, I am a bit confused as to whether Mousassi, Aoki and Henderson underperformed, or if Mo, Melendez and Shields were truly better. I think the a little of both for each fight, though I feel Melendez just exposed Aoki for a one-dimensional grappler who is lost when there is a cage to cut off his angles, and negate his sub attempts.

    Shields' performance drummed up a bit more interest in a potential GSP/Shields match-up should Shields sign with the UFC - which he probably will - though his stand-up looked a bit rudimentary. Given that Shields could take Henderson down, it would be interesting to see how the fight with GSP would play out. I still have a feeling that GSP's more dynamic stand-up and better athleticism - speaking in comparison to Hendo - would put Shields in trouble, but he is a credible threat at 170, something the UFC desperately needs.

    Melendez really did fight the perfect fight against Aoki, and I wish he would have mangled his face into oblivion. I hate Aoki, Melendez was much better. Enough said!

    COuldnt agree more. The production value was awful, and I had it on mute. Couldnt stand to listen to them Hell Renallo at the beginning was talking about Mo's positioning and had no idea what he was referencing.

    I also think Shields becomes a viable option to the UFC at either weight. (I have to eat crow here) He is a bit awkward, but his wrestling was FAR better than I thought. He took Dan down at will, something I have not seen happen. Dan looked outclassed in rounds 2-5
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    A lot of fans preferred the SF broadcast team to Goldberg/Rogan's biased bs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    A lot of fans preferred the SF broadcast team to Goldberg/Rogan's biased bs.
    Ah, you must be referring to Shamrock's neutrality? Could not agree more. The way he remained neutral for the Cung Le, Diaz and Shields fight was very professional. Please note the heavy, heavy sarcasm here.

    I also think Shields becomes a viable option to the UFC at either weight. (I have to eat crow here) He is a bit awkward, but his wrestling was FAR better than I thought. He took Dan down at will, something I have not seen happen. Dan looked outclassed in rounds 2-5
    I am definitely interested in seeing him in the UFC, but with that being said, GSP most likely crushes him as well. Hendo was a great wrestler, but I had thought GSP was the best MMA-wrestler for some time, and Shields simply does not seem athletic enough to contend in that area. As well, Henderson is terrible off his back - see A. Silva fight - and I suspect GSP would not have similar issues. This being said, I still think they should bring Shields in to face the winner of Fitch/Alves for a title shot.
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    I think Shields/Fitch could be a bore-fest, but Alves/Shields has a little more fire power imo.

    Hendo looked lost off of his back, I was surprised that he was that bad

    As an aside, I was thrilled to see Aoki lose the way he did. He is not in the league of the elite at 155
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    COuldnt agree more. The production value was awful, and I had it on mute. Couldnt stand to listen to them Hell Renallo at the beginning was talking about Mo's positioning and had no idea what he was referencing.

    I also think Shields becomes a viable option to the UFC at either weight. (I have to eat crow here) He is a bit awkward, but his wrestling was FAR better than I thought. He took Dan down at will, something I have not seen happen. Dan looked outclassed in rounds 2-5
    Dan has been taken down most of his career by far worse wrestlers than Shields. Even Dan knew he'd be on his back some of that fight, but he didn't expect to get raped. I was banking on an early KO, which almost happened, oh well.
  

  
 

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