UFC 112 Abu Dhabi
- 04-12-2010, 12:06 PM
Yeeesh, it got testy in here.
I agree with Rodja and Ironfist. The Penn decision was shenanigans. I don't know if I was quite as outraged as the Shogun/Machida, but shenanigans nonetheless.
Anderson Silva should have just finished the fight, rather then emulate a Roy Jones, Jr. youtube highlight vid. The similarities are kind of laughable.
Fun starts around 0:40 mark.
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- 04-12-2010, 12:18 PM
Roy Jones Jr was amazing beyond words in his prime.
And with 40 KO's in 54 wins, he finished fights (or at least beat opponents senseless till the end).
04-12-2010, 12:21 PM
04-12-2010, 12:32 PM
I didn't watch it, but I heard the recent Hopkins/Jones match went horrible and Hopkins schooled him, oh well...
Here is the judges 45/50 explanation. He sounds completely bat$hit and who after reading this, can deem him mentally capable of judging a fight?
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/4/12...y-explains-whySo....Just returned from Abu Dhabi, and I haven't been in my duplex more than 20 minutes, when the Doorman calls me on the intercom in a state of panic.... Seems there are hundreds of moaning, howling ghouls in "RVCA" and "Prodigy/Hilo Boy" T-shirts surrounding the building like extras from "Zombieland"... And they're chanting "50/45!" over and over, and trying to push their way into the lobby..... Thank God the Father and Sonny Jesus none of them have the elevator key to my penthouse.....So I think I'm safe for awhile... Which gives me a little time to talk to you, my dear friends.
So I'm wondering.....Should I tell you how I scored Penn/Edgar, and why, right now, up front? But that seems kinda like the Pope or the King back in the day, just writing down what he wants to say, and having one of his burly churls nail it to the door of the church for everyone to read...It seems a bit...distant, a bit 'above it all', don'tcha think? Because God knows I have plenty to say and no shortage of burly churls; no dearth of hulking familiars to do my bidding have I....
Perhaps just announcing my presence is enough for now. Perhaps simply allowing some of you, my faithful friends and fellow MMA devotees, to say what YOU want to say is more....Democratic; more... Enlightened... A behaviour more consistent with a Progressive such as myself
After all, isn't that my job? Isn't it incumbent upon me, as a Judge, to make myself available for your criticism? If I take the plane ride, and get to the venue, and score the fights, I have a kind of....Contract with the fans; a contract that specifically allows you to criticize me. And I will be glad to defend the terms of that agreement, even if it means I have to take the weight sometimes... I knew this was coming as I scored the fight. I knew the inescapable inevitability of criticism was waiting back here. I saw the ride; and I bought a ticket
So allow me to cast up my accounts with you as equitably as possible, won't you? Interestingly, I've been slightly taken aback by the response my score for the Penn/Edgar fight has engendered...but not in the way (some of) you guys have responded....I kind of expected that. What's been surprising is how many people, at the event, in the hotel, at the airport, fighters, production staff, etc., have told me how glad they were that I scored the FIGHT, and not the FIGHTERS.
Are you guys with me on that, even just a little? Can you understand what I mean by that? May I also mention that I forgive you? For your anger, your insults, and your crassness? NOT all of you....You know who you are. Yes; YOU: Over there, with the purple Nikes on, waiting for the spaceship in the tail of comet to come take you to a world where everyone agrees with you....and YOU over there...the one who thinks his heroes never lose.... So yes, I forgive you. I started this thread knowing that a percentage of you would behave the way you have. I knew you would when I scored the fight as well. I forgave you then. And even as I forgave you, I prepared myself to defend your right to criticize me, and make myself available for that criticism. Isn't that something I kind of...started out by saying?
All of that being said..... I've mentioned numerous times on other threads that the scoring criteria exist for a reason, just like the 10-point "must" system exists for a reason; and that the scoring criteria are guidelines within which Judges arrive at a decision on a round-by-round basis. It is a Judge's obligation to interpret the fight and use the criteria as guidelines. But a fight is an observed event that does require interpretation, observation, wisdom. And, in my considered opinion, Edgar dictated the tone of the fight, successfully implemented and executed a strategy, landed better strikes, and basically outworked Penn.
And that is an interpretation by a ringside observer with an understanding and appreciation of MMA, who has Judged numerous (hundreds) of fights. I re-watched the fight in my hotel in Abu Dhabi and saw nothing that would influence me to score it any differently. I support and encourage your right to criticize my scoring. And I forgive you for your attacks of both a professional, and, regrettably, personal nature.
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04-12-2010, 12:35 PM
I won't buy another UFC until Lesnar v. Carwin.
04-12-2010, 12:35 PM
04-12-2010, 12:41 PM
Ed Soars on fight
Personally, I think Ed Soars was full of $hit. He starts to defend Anderson's full-hearted desire to finish the fight but Anderson "couldn't find his distance."
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04-12-2010, 12:43 PM
04-12-2010, 01:01 PM
(In his prime of course--he should have retired after he won the heavyweight belt in '03).
I would have loved to have seen Jones fight Silva in a boxing match a few years ago, even years past his prime. F'ing Dana White...
04-12-2010, 01:05 PM
04-12-2010, 01:25 PM
True, but the entire fight was on their feet, where Silva entirely outclasses him.
Likewise, Roy Jones KO'd a lot of top pros in the first round, I simply meant they were relatively weak compared to him.
04-12-2010, 01:35 PM
04-12-2010, 02:09 PM
04-12-2010, 04:50 PM
I think you might be a little bit upset. I recall you saying you are biased towards GSP bc he is Canadian. I'm just not into the whole nationalism thing. I'm sure you don't like him only bc he is Canadian. I just don't understand ppl that lean towards a fighter bc he is from their country.
Fu*k Dana regardless. He is wishy washy. I have heard him a few times insinuate that GSP didn't stand much of a chance against Anderson, but his opinion changes quickly....money money money.
04-12-2010, 05:20 PM
I would love to see fans boo Anderson and when he loses cheer so loud! Too many fans at events are spread out on who they like its never that loud.
they need to have him fight 205
04-21-2010, 07:02 AM
GSP v Anderson at 170 is stupid and makes no logical sense at all. Anderson is a big 185 and GSP is a big 170. Would be MUCH easier for GSP to fight at 185 than Anderson to fight at 170. For a guy who has to cut pretty hard to get to 185 to be asked to cut now to 170 just doesn't make sense at all.
Dana is a fking idiot.
04-21-2010, 01:49 PM
04-21-2010, 04:02 PM
catch weight 181. one wouldnt care cuz the title maybe? not that silva doest care already. dana will make them fight when the UFC is slipping or Anderson is on his last chance.
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