- 02-21-2010, 07:56 AM
- 02-21-2010, 03:11 PM
I may be with you on that^. One the most impressive main events in a while. Co main event not bad either but not nearly as great as Nog/Cain. Very very impressive.
02-21-2010, 09:33 PM
I was going for Cain,but I thought Nog was going to knock Cain out.Damn that was some crisp striking!!
02-21-2010, 10:22 PM
02-21-2010, 10:25 PM
02-22-2010, 02:49 AM
02-22-2010, 03:54 AM
Cain's boxing is obviously a lot better than the preconceived notions.
Storopolis or whatever the hell, looked beastly against Joe. I was very impressed by his boxing but his ground game was SICK.
02-22-2010, 05:00 AM
haha cant believe the guy who fought cro cop only had 2 days notice.
1. poor bastard
2. dumb bastard
02-22-2010, 10:09 AM
02-22-2010, 11:12 AM
02-22-2010, 01:26 PM
02-22-2010, 01:50 PM
I keep reading about Cain v. Dos Santos (provided he gets by Gonzaga) I think Lesnar would make for an interesting fight, as his only true advantage would be size. Cain has wrestling at a high level as well, and his hands are better than I thought. Personally not a huge fan of Carwin, but just happy to see that the heavyweight division is getting interesting again
02-22-2010, 03:53 PM
02-22-2010, 04:22 PM
02-22-2010, 04:35 PM
Yeah thats what im saying an extra 25+ lbs of muscle from a guy with XXXL hands who is also 6'5. The Carwin/Mir fight will be real interesting especially since Mir has been bulking up to their weight. But yeah I didnt think Cain would ever knock out Nog so who knows maybe he would surprise me again.
02-22-2010, 06:06 PM
I was sorely disappointed. I had a 45/55 gut feeling, advantage Nog and was expecting much more of a war and effort on Cain's part to pull it out, not a HL KO. Oh well.
Also, I definitely feel Cain can threaten Lesnar. I don't think 25lbs of extra muscle on the body will defuse a well placed shot by Cain on the chin (or any accurate HW for that matter). Nog looked like he got hit by a car when Cain landed those punches.
Lesnar's my boy and all, but if or when the two meet, I would hope it goes to the ground (with Lesnar ontop). Cain's hands looked like a motor vehicle collision on Nog's head.
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02-22-2010, 06:25 PM
I never thought Nog would win. I was thinknig UD for cain or maybe a TKO late for just too mantp punches. Cain is so young and hes very good all around. Ive seen him train in the San Jose area when i made my way up north. Hes a beast and AKA is a pretty good gym. Hes only gonig to get better. People think Nog did great against randy, I was not impressed. I was so impressed when nog beat heath and sylvia because they were more at the top of there game and he had come backs. Now im sure carwin, dos santos, cain, mir would all beat him. hes just a top 5 gate keeper. dont get me wrong im not bashing him im jsut stating his place. hes a legend and i look up to him but there is young talent out right now in the heavy weights. besides carwin and lesner who are old. Randy is not hard to beat these days. He beat an old coleman and a head case brandon vera.
02-22-2010, 06:39 PM
The Cain v Fedor, "Cain would win," talk has already started. The Cain vs. Lesnar, "Cain would win," talk is piled quite high as well. Granted Cain is a legitimate threat to anyone, but man do the wagons fill quickly.
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02-22-2010, 06:42 PM
To me, the great thing is that he is still so young. However, lets not get too crazy just yet. The beauty of the heavyweight division is anyone can lose at any time. I will say, Cain's hands were friggin frightening imo. Nog looked out b4 hitting the ground
02-23-2010, 01:34 AM
It is debatable whether Cain looked phenomenal, or if Nog's "staph infection" simply reared its ugly head one more time, rendering the legend virtually immobile and stiffer than a Catholic Priest during Sunday School. It was not long ago that Nog made Frank Mir look like Anderson Silva, and I think the preemptive "he is done" mutterings were not so preemptive after all: Nog is visibly slower, less crisp and less precise in his striking and footwork, and I think now would be an apt time to bow out gracefully before absorbing too much damage.
I do think Cain looks legitimate, but I am going to temper my response here, like I tempered my response to Machida - the proclamations of greatness the MMA community tend to make almost never come to fruition. While I think Cain's manner of victory in his last two outings make for a legitimate case, and an ultimately more justifiable one, I will still withhold judgment for now!
02-23-2010, 05:36 AM
I dont necessarily believe nog is done. He might not be at the level of title contention. However, there are still some interesting fights against some of the younder heavyweights.
02-23-2010, 12:41 PM
Nog's performance against Randy was a revitalizing one, but his UFC record proves last weekends performance to be his standard and his fight against Randy to be the exception. Also, Mirko looked decent against a guy I've never-ever heard of in my life and furthermore, said no-namer had no time to prepare for a competitive fight (2 days?) and Mirko still only looked decent. He fought a smart fight, had some good TDD's and dominated, but dominated in the most underwhelming way possible for the situation at hand.
Time for me to officially unhinge the tire swing from Mirko's nuts.
P.S. I'll be seriously pissed if Cain beats Brock. I think people have gathered for class action bear hugs around Cain's nuts faster and tighter gripped then when Rogan announced the Machida era had arrived. For whatever reason, that kind of nut-gathery irks me. That being said, I'm partly convinced that Cain might just be "that good," (hope not). Like Mullet if GSP is to ever lose, if Brock lost against Cain (assuming that will be the next fight), I'll probably lose interest in MMA for a short period.
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02-23-2010, 02:00 PM
that is why I am glad I dont have any real allegiance to a fighter. I enjoy watching too much to have to stop if someone loses. I will say however, that I am beginning to dislike Mir enough to hope he gets stomped in each of his fights
02-23-2010, 02:06 PM
02-23-2010, 02:10 PM
lol. I also think his comments about Brock are bad for the sport. In jest or not, it is not the publicity that MMA in general needs.
02-23-2010, 02:12 PM
02-23-2010, 02:14 PM
I am not a CArwin fan at all, and in fact have not been impressed by him either. However, I hope he stomps the hell out of Mir, just so he will STFU
02-23-2010, 02:18 PM
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02-23-2010, 04:19 PM
Seriously. When GSP lost to Serra I literally became disinterested in MMA until September (loss was in April). If you check my post history in the MMA forum, there is a six-month gap where people were wondering why I disappeared, haha. That was simply too much to handle.
02-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Cain really impressed me with his wrestling and crisp strikes, but I really don't think he will be able to deal with the power of Brock. I feel like Lesnar would manhandle him on the ground and just stop his game completely.