Anderson v thalies-5 round snoozfest

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  1. Anderson v thalies-5 round snoozfest


    That was a intensley boring fight.


  2. I cant figure Anderson out, two sub par performances in a row, maybe he is bored with the competition at 185
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I cant figure Anderson out, two sub par performances in a row, maybe he is bored with the competition at 185
    It seemed as though he was trying to engage, but lateis was running away and aimlessly falling on the ground. I just wanted anderson to pound on him.

  4. They were both on their bicycles at one point or other. I think (this is just my opinion) that Silva feels that he's defending the belt and if you want it, you have to bring the fight to him. I thought he looked great and superior to Leites and defended by keeping the fight on the feet (mostly) to unravel Leites' game plan. It might've been boring but he took little, if any, damage and retained the title. Here is the fight!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Bionic View Post
    They were both on their bicycles at one point or other. I think (this is just my opinion) that Silva feels that he's defending the belt and if you want it, you have to bring the fight to him. I thought he looked great and superior to Leites and defended by keeping the fight on the feet (mostly) to unravel Leites' game plan. It might've been boring but he took little, if any, damage and retained the title. Here is the fight!
    I couldn't agree with you more. Silva is the Title holder, if Leites was so prepared to take it, he should have been the aggressor. I bet he is looking back at the tape today wondering why he trained for 12 weeks for this fight when he only threw 12 punches in 25 mins.
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  6. Yeah, Silva really had no reason to pursue... He has the tittle, he was landing well, why does anyone even expect him to have to press forward to get a knockout is something I don't understand...

    Why would he leave himself open to losing or getting caught when gameplan and strikes have been working perfectly?

  7. like i said, i believe anderson was trying to engage, latieas (spelling) needed to be the agressor for sure. Anderson looked very frustrated with the whole thing.

  8. I think the, "he is the title holder, and therefore can aimlessly L n' P argument" is not valid at all. Look at the pressing, aggressive style of other current champions; retaining a belt does not entitle you to become an entirely different [and less dynamic, more boring] fighter. Fedor or GSP, for example [using these due to all the P4P # 1 talk] did not begin aimlessly meandering around the ring/cage during a belt defense because the competitor did not fight an entirely aggressive style.

    I fear I have officially become unimpressed with A. Silva, and this is building off his Cote performance.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I think the, "he is the title holder, and therefore can aimlessly L n' P argument" is not valid at all. Look at the pressing, aggressive style of other current champions; retaining a belt does not entitle you to become an entirely different [and less dynamic, more boring] fighter. Fedor or GSP, for example [using these due to all the P4P # 1 talk] did not begin aimlessly meandering around the ring/cage during a belt defense because the competitor did not fight an entirely aggressive style.

    I fear I have officially become unimpressed with A. Silva, and this is building off his Cote performance.
    x2.............Fedor or GSP would have gone flying onto Leites while he was on the ground & not walked away like sucks. Just because one holds the title doesn't mean he is a true champion.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    x2.............Fedor or GSP would have gone flying onto Leites while he was on the ground & not walked away like sucks. Just because one holds the title doesn't mean he is a true champion.
    Although i agree, i think insinuating that he isnt a true champion might be a bit of a stretch, dont you think? I can see why one might find themselves unimpressed with anderson right now, after all your only as good as your last fight, but he is still the champ. Leites was obviously confused as to what to do, and looked a bit scared, and cowed. Anderson was trying to engage him for the majorit of the fight, and if leites didnt fall to the ground every 4 seconds the outcome surely would have been different.

  11. I think a lot of you guys *but not all of you) should take a few BJJ lessons.
    I completely understand that the fight may not have been flashy and much to look at, but you have to remember that the UFC and MMA in general is a SPORT. Silva did exactly what he had to do to win. Leites is a BJJ world champion (It seems like everyone in the ufc is...) and Anderson "The Spider" Silva, A Muay Thai expert.

    When was the last time you heard an NFL fan complain when the QB takes a knee, when his team is winning, and there is 30 seconds left in the game?

    Silva Vs. Leites was a very techincal, although like I said earlier, I agree to the general population it wasnt much to look at. Leites didnt want to get into a brawl, because he knew that Silva would have destroyed him. Silva didnt want to go to the ground because he is a stand up fighter.

  12. I've only seen Silva's last 2 fights, and I'm completely disappointed with him and utterly confused when Rogan says he's the best fighter "pound for pound". Perhaps he was better in the past - but the past is the past. He's just boring and showboaty now. Lyoto Machida and Hoyce Gracie are/were extremely defensive fighters too, but still had enough offense to entertain the crowd.

    I am also not impressed by the whole "lands 80% of his strikes" or whatever the stat was. When a guy hasn't thrown a punch in the first 3 minutes and I'm not even sure he threw 5 in that whole first 5 minutes, it shouldn't be that hard to have better accuracy.

    I'm not saying the other guy wasn't any better, but the only thing in common with Silva's last 2 amazingly boring fights is Silva. He's like the Minnesota Wild of MMA. Just a very bad and boring "main event". I'd be very mad if I had paid money to see that.

    All I can say is that whoever Sliva fights next - it should not be considered the main event.

    Note: I also hate that saying "pound for pound". What the heck does that mean? If Silva gained weight up to Fedor's level, Fedor would still destroy him. It's not like Silva is going to increase his speed as he gets heavier.

    Ah, gotta love armchair coaches/critics as I sit safely outside of the cage in my comfy house, lol!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSid View Post
    I think a lot of you guys *but not all of you) should take a few BJJ lessons.
    I completely understand that the fight may not have been flashy and much to look at, but you have to remember that the UFC and MMA in general is a SPORT. Silva did exactly what he had to do to win. Leites is a BJJ world champion (It seems like everyone in the ufc is...) and Anderson "The Spider" Silva, A Muay Thai expert.

    When was the last time you heard an NFL fan complain when the QB takes a knee, when his team is winning, and there is 30 seconds left in the game?

    Silva Vs. Leites was a very techincal, although like I said earlier, I agree to the general population it wasnt much to look at. Leites didnt want to get into a brawl, because he knew that Silva would have destroyed him. Silva didnt want to go to the ground because he is a stand up fighter.
    Interesting you felt that Silva was technically impressive with his BJJ in that fight - how so? In saying aggressive, I meant both the ground and the feet, with Anderson not fulfilling the requirements of 'aggressor' in either situation. With all due respect, please do not assume I am some knockout-yearning yokel who knows nothing about the sport because I feel Anderson has been highly disappointing of late.

    I feel we should avoid confusing technical with disengaging and passive; both qualities we could justifiably impart to Anderson last night. My impression is this: Anderson now assumes that each fight must be brought to him, and his former engaging, aggressive style is too worthy of his opponents.

    Anderson is a Muay Thai expert, but his BJJ is also phenomenal. While not at the level of Thales, it is certainly apt enough to defend subs in guard, and inflict damage on Thales with elbow strikes and so forth. The few times the fight ventured to the ground, Anderson attempted little in the way of damaging strikes: he seemed too preoccupied with appearing "frustrated" to be engaged with the task at hand. Fedor has accomplished appreciably more than Anderson, but he has yet to dance around the ring like a moron, trying to clown and demean his opponents. The fight was boring due to a lackluster performance from both fighters, and; considering he is becoming increasingly more represented as the P4P # 1, Anderson should adhere to higher standards.

    I stand by my statement that the fight was highly disappointing, as has Anderson's performance in his past two fights. As I say, you do not earn the right to hop around the Octagon like a Chippendale's dancer because you have cleaned out the most notoriously weak division in MMA; particularly when half of the best MWs are not even in your organization.

  14. they both had poor performances. silva should of gone harder at him and instead he tried to act like it was not his fault. Leites should have also gone harder and not have ****ty takedown attempts. he does look really bored in 185 and he wasnt really challenged at all. he should of jsut finished it like cote instead of drag them out. he had plenty of chances to end. dana white said hes embarrsed over the main event. he would start punching him on the ground and then stop get up and walk away when he was in no danger of a submission. we will see silva soon at 205 and it will most likely be good so whatever its MMA sh!t like this happends

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Interesting you felt that Silva was technically impressive with his BJJ in that fight - how so? In saying aggressive, I meant both the ground and the feet, with Anderson not fulfilling the requirements of 'aggressor' in either situation. With all due respect, please do not assume I am some knockout-yearning yokel who knows nothing about the sport because I feel Anderson has been highly disappointing of late.

    I feel we should avoid confusing technical with disengaging and passive; both qualities we could justifiably impart to Anderson last night. My impression is this: Anderson now assumes that each fight must be brought to him, and his former engaging, aggressive style is too worthy of his opponents.

    Anderson is a Muay Thai expert, but his BJJ is also phenomenal. While not at the level of Thales, it is certainly apt enough to defend subs in guard, and inflict damage on Thales with elbow strikes and so forth. The few times the fight ventured to the ground, Anderson attempted little in the way of damaging strikes: he seemed too preoccupied with appearing "frustrated" to be engaged with the task at hand. Fedor has accomplished appreciably more than Anderson, but he has yet to dance around the ring like a moron, trying to clown and demean his opponents. The fight was boring due to a lackluster performance from both fighters, and; considering he is becoming increasingly more represented as the P4P # 1, Anderson should adhere to higher standards.

    I stand by my statement that the fight was highly disappointing, as has Anderson's performance in his past two fights. As I say, you do not earn the right to hop around the Octagon like a Chippendale's dancer because you have cleaned out the most notoriously weak division in MMA; particularly when half of the best MWs are not even in your organization.
    Again X2.......very well said.

    Silva makes a poor champion, period! The fact that many are talking about it is proof!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I think the, "he is the title holder, and therefore can aimlessly L n' P argument" is not valid at all. Look at the pressing, aggressive style of other current champions; retaining a belt does not entitle you to become an entirely different [and less dynamic, more boring] fighter. Fedor or GSP, for example [using these due to all the P4P # 1 talk] did not begin aimlessly meandering around the ring/cage during a belt defense because the competitor did not fight an entirely aggressive style.

    I fear I have officially become unimpressed with A. Silva, and this is building off his Cote performance.
    I don't know but that was a technical strategic fight. He knows Thales has a great ground game. and Anderson is the champ. This is his job how he feeds his 4 kids etc. you don't get more money and more sponsors by losing exciting fights. i remember this arguement with Jake's performance in the RWE tournament and I was like if he had been exciting and lost the 1st round he would of been out 30k but he did his fight and one tournmanet now if he had lost a month later when his kid needed new shoes and his rent and car payment was due do you think he would of been saying man I'm glad i put on a more exciting fight or Man I wish I would of stuck to my gameplan? UFC is boxing yet where you can lose and end up making more money. Often times the difference between the W and L is substantial pay. When he start taking punishment from people while showboating etc then i'll become unimpressed but until then he is the champ regardless if he is knocking people out or winning decisions

  17. If he was truly the best fighter in the world, people wouldnt fall on their backs hoping to get in a grappling match. The best pound for pound fighter should be good everywhere hence his ooponent wont avoid any single aspect of the fight.

    As far as Spider's opponents. They need to start setting some fights up a little better and making his ooponents at least believe they have a chance. Right now White literally talks like he is feeding sheep to a lion when he talks about the 185 division.

  18. Also back in the old days no one had the belt until the end of the tournament. That made for some good fights. The belt should be up for grabs every night. that should make the fighters more aggressive.



    Disclaimer: I know this is a hair away from impossible but it would be sweet.

  19. Leites didnt even look good trying to keep him on the ground. it was just a stupid fight and he needs more exciting opponents. nate mar round 2 would have even been better.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    Again X2.......very well said.

    Silva makes a poor champion, period! The fact that many are talking about it is proof!
    This is an idiotic statement. Just because you don't like his style in the last two fights doesn't mean he is a poor champion. He is one of the 3 best fighters in the world - given how he has just dismantled every opponent he has faced, whether that be through knockout within 15 seconds or 5 rounds of nullifying any strategy they had coming into the fight rendering them helpless - he has done it.

  21. anderson needs his oponents to come to him,like when he first came to ufc all his oponents came to him and threw punchs and he conterstriked his way to ko'es but now it seems everyone has to much respect for him and wont engage in a stand up fight DANA SHOULD PUT GSP IN FRONT OF HIM THEN WE WILL SEE A F@!$!KIN FIGHT!!!

  22. Have you guys seen the real transcript from his post fight interview?

    Apparently he said "boo all you want, you guys still pay my ****ing wages".

    A lot of other ****ty comments were made by him aswell, but the translator (his manager) tones it down.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    If he was truly the best fighter in the world, people wouldnt fall on their backs hoping to get in a grappling match. The best pound for pound fighter should be good everywhere hence his ooponent wont avoid any single aspect of the fight.

    As far as Spider's opponents. They need to start setting some fights up a little better and making his ooponents at least believe they have a chance. Right now White literally talks like he is feeding sheep to a lion when he talks about the 185 division.
    This i totally agree with. Thats exactly what dana sounds like. But, i do think the only reason anderson avoided the ground game is because he wanted a knockout, after his lackluster previous fight.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by 0-hero View Post
    Have you guys seen the real transcript from his post fight interview?

    Apparently he said "boo all you want, you guys still pay my ****ing wages".

    A lot of other ****ty comments were made by him aswell, but the translator (his manager) tones it down.
    what that little chump

  25. Quote Originally Posted by tirtle88 View Post
    what that little chump
    Any significance to the sleeping smiley?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    If he was truly the best fighter in the world, people wouldnt fall on their backs hoping to get in a grappling match. The best pound for pound fighter should be good everywhere hence his ooponent wont avoid any single aspect of the fight.

    As far as Spider's opponents. They need to start setting some fights up a little better and making his ooponents at least believe they have a chance. Right now White literally talks like he is feeding sheep to a lion when he talks about the 185 division.
    Just an FYI joe silva is the one who sets up the fights not dana.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by joeymutz View Post
    Just an FYI joe silva is the one who sets up the fights not dana.
    yeah i know that. but i am talking about how Dana speaks publicly about these fights. I mean at least hype the guy up a little more. Dana always says stuff like "i feel sorry for the next guy he gets in the ring with" or "he can end this fight when he chooses to". I mean why not say "this could be the guy that beats Silva"? screw it might as well, maybe the fighter will take himself a little more seriously instead of feeling like he is on a sacraficial alter. He might feel more compelled to perform.

  28. Yes. Snooze indeed. I hope he didn't get any sort of bonus check what so ever. At least Dana was as irritated as the rest of us in that interview that was posted.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    yeah i know that. but i am talking about how Dana speaks publicly about these fights. I mean at least hype the guy up a little more. Dana always says stuff like "i feel sorry for the next guy he gets in the ring with" or "he can end this fight when he chooses to". I mean why not say "this could be the guy that beats Silva"? screw it might as well, maybe the fighter will take himself a little more seriously instead of feeling like he is on a sacraficial alter. He might feel more compelled to perform.
    I think that is part of it, most definitely. That being said, Cote was the supreme underdog, and he engaged Silva more than vice-versa. This is just as much, if not moreso, Silva's issue.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I think that is part of it, most definitely. That being said, Cote was the supreme underdog, and he engaged Silva more than vice-versa. This is just as much, if not moreso, Silva's issue.
    yes this is true about Cote. This silva is entirely different from the Silva that took the belt from Rich. I guess the only thing the UFC can do is hopefully have him fight someone with serious balls. I really do not want that to be GSP as I dont feel like watching GSP rack up a loss simply because he is drastically outweighed in a pointless fight.
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