Anderson v thalies-5 round snoozfest
- 04-19-2009, 08:54 AM
- 04-19-2009, 09:45 AM
I cant figure Anderson out, two sub par performances in a row, maybe he is bored with the competition at 185
04-19-2009, 09:50 AM
04-19-2009, 12:13 PM
They were both on their bicycles at one point or other. I think (this is just my opinion) that Silva feels that he's defending the belt and if you want it, you have to bring the fight to him. I thought he looked great and superior to Leites and defended by keeping the fight on the feet (mostly) to unravel Leites' game plan. It might've been boring but he took little, if any, damage and retained the title. Here is the fight!
04-19-2009, 01:29 PM
04-19-2009, 01:43 PM
Yeah, Silva really had no reason to pursue... He has the tittle, he was landing well, why does anyone even expect him to have to press forward to get a knockout is something I don't understand...
Why would he leave himself open to losing or getting caught when gameplan and strikes have been working perfectly?
04-19-2009, 02:25 PM
like i said, i believe anderson was trying to engage, latieas (spelling) needed to be the agressor for sure. Anderson looked very frustrated with the whole thing.
04-19-2009, 02:42 PM
I think the, "he is the title holder, and therefore can aimlessly L n' P argument" is not valid at all. Look at the pressing, aggressive style of other current champions; retaining a belt does not entitle you to become an entirely different [and less dynamic, more boring] fighter. Fedor or GSP, for example [using these due to all the P4P # 1 talk] did not begin aimlessly meandering around the ring/cage during a belt defense because the competitor did not fight an entirely aggressive style.
I fear I have officially become unimpressed with A. Silva, and this is building off his Cote performance.
04-19-2009, 02:55 PM
04-19-2009, 03:46 PM
04-19-2009, 03:55 PM
I think a lot of you guys *but not all of you) should take a few BJJ lessons.
I completely understand that the fight may not have been flashy and much to look at, but you have to remember that the UFC and MMA in general is a SPORT. Silva did exactly what he had to do to win. Leites is a BJJ world champion (It seems like everyone in the ufc is...) and Anderson "The Spider" Silva, A Muay Thai expert.
When was the last time you heard an NFL fan complain when the QB takes a knee, when his team is winning, and there is 30 seconds left in the game?
Silva Vs. Leites was a very techincal, although like I said earlier, I agree to the general population it wasnt much to look at. Leites didnt want to get into a brawl, because he knew that Silva would have destroyed him. Silva didnt want to go to the ground because he is a stand up fighter.
04-19-2009, 04:46 PM
I've only seen Silva's last 2 fights, and I'm completely disappointed with him and utterly confused when Rogan says he's the best fighter "pound for pound". Perhaps he was better in the past - but the past is the past. He's just boring and showboaty now. Lyoto Machida and Hoyce Gracie are/were extremely defensive fighters too, but still had enough offense to entertain the crowd.
I am also not impressed by the whole "lands 80% of his strikes" or whatever the stat was. When a guy hasn't thrown a punch in the first 3 minutes and I'm not even sure he threw 5 in that whole first 5 minutes, it shouldn't be that hard to have better accuracy.
I'm not saying the other guy wasn't any better, but the only thing in common with Silva's last 2 amazingly boring fights is Silva. He's like the Minnesota Wild of MMA. Just a very bad and boring "main event". I'd be very mad if I had paid money to see that.
All I can say is that whoever Sliva fights next - it should not be considered the main event.
Note: I also hate that saying "pound for pound". What the heck does that mean? If Silva gained weight up to Fedor's level, Fedor would still destroy him. It's not like Silva is going to increase his speed as he gets heavier.
Ah, gotta love armchair coaches/critics as I sit safely outside of the cage in my comfy house, lol!
04-19-2009, 05:05 PM
I feel we should avoid confusing technical with disengaging and passive; both qualities we could justifiably impart to Anderson last night. My impression is this: Anderson now assumes that each fight must be brought to him, and his former engaging, aggressive style is too worthy of his opponents.
Anderson is a Muay Thai expert, but his BJJ is also phenomenal. While not at the level of Thales, it is certainly apt enough to defend subs in guard, and inflict damage on Thales with elbow strikes and so forth. The few times the fight ventured to the ground, Anderson attempted little in the way of damaging strikes: he seemed too preoccupied with appearing "frustrated" to be engaged with the task at hand. Fedor has accomplished appreciably more than Anderson, but he has yet to dance around the ring like a moron, trying to clown and demean his opponents. The fight was boring due to a lackluster performance from both fighters, and; considering he is becoming increasingly more represented as the P4P # 1, Anderson should adhere to higher standards.
I stand by my statement that the fight was highly disappointing, as has Anderson's performance in his past two fights. As I say, you do not earn the right to hop around the Octagon like a Chippendale's dancer because you have cleaned out the most notoriously weak division in MMA; particularly when half of the best MWs are not even in your organization.
04-19-2009, 05:57 PM
they both had poor performances. silva should of gone harder at him and instead he tried to act like it was not his fault. Leites should have also gone harder and not have ****ty takedown attempts. he does look really bored in 185 and he wasnt really challenged at all. he should of jsut finished it like cote instead of drag them out. he had plenty of chances to end. dana white said hes embarrsed over the main event. he would start punching him on the ground and then stop get up and walk away when he was in no danger of a submission. we will see silva soon at 205 and it will most likely be good so whatever its MMA sh!t like this happends
04-19-2009, 07:16 PM
04-19-2009, 08:09 PM
04-19-2009, 08:15 PM
If he was truly the best fighter in the world, people wouldnt fall on their backs hoping to get in a grappling match. The best pound for pound fighter should be good everywhere hence his ooponent wont avoid any single aspect of the fight.
As far as Spider's opponents. They need to start setting some fights up a little better and making his ooponents at least believe they have a chance. Right now White literally talks like he is feeding sheep to a lion when he talks about the 185 division.
04-19-2009, 08:18 PM
Also back in the old days no one had the belt until the end of the tournament. That made for some good fights. The belt should be up for grabs every night. that should make the fighters more aggressive.
Disclaimer: I know this is a hair away from impossible but it would be sweet.
04-19-2009, 08:39 PM
Leites didnt even look good trying to keep him on the ground. it was just a stupid fight and he needs more exciting opponents. nate mar round 2 would have even been better.
04-20-2009, 01:45 AM
04-20-2009, 06:38 AM
anderson needs his oponents to come to him,like when he first came to ufc all his oponents came to him and threw punchs and he conterstriked his way to ko'es but now it seems everyone has to much respect for him and wont engage in a stand up fight DANA SHOULD PUT GSP IN FRONT OF HIM THEN WE WILL SEE A F@!$!KIN FIGHT!!!
04-20-2009, 06:57 AM
Have you guys seen the real transcript from his post fight interview?
Apparently he said "boo all you want, you guys still pay my ****ing wages".
A lot of other ****ty comments were made by him aswell, but the translator (his manager) tones it down.
04-20-2009, 07:10 AM
04-20-2009, 07:25 AM
04-20-2009, 08:11 AM
04-20-2009, 11:31 AM
04-20-2009, 01:00 PM
04-20-2009, 01:01 PM
Yes. Snooze indeed. I hope he didn't get any sort of bonus check what so ever. At least Dana was as irritated as the rest of us in that interview that was posted.
04-20-2009, 01:36 PM
04-20-2009, 02:01 PM
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