Now that rampage has won. rampage vs rashad?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    Is he hurt like not fighting for a long time or just not fighting rashad this upcoming UFC?
    Torn ligaments in his jaw. 5 weeks of no contact.
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  2. Damn.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Here is how I break it down:
    KO Power-Rashad
    Technical striking-Rampage
    Takedowns/Defense-Rampage
    Camp-Rashad
    GnP-Push
    Subs-Push
    Cardio-Rashad
    Chin-Rampage
    Improvement Curve-Rashad

    Who do I think wins? If it's at 98, then Rashad, but a later date, I give it to Rampage.
    On paper, I would give the edge to Rampage. Looking at it logically, though, I believe Rashad will win by TKO.

    I'd say a tie in takedown defense and KO power, though. ^

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MrBrightside View Post
    On paper, I would give the edge to Rampage. Looking at it logically, though, I believe Rashad will win by TKO.

    I'd say a tie in takedown defense and KO power, though. ^
    Rampage stopped Kevin Randleman's TD's (2x D-1 champ), while Rashad has been taken down by Bisping and Salmon. Rampage's power comes from counters (e.g. Chuck, Wand III), while Rashad's power comes from his attacks and he has KO'd some people ugly recently.
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  5. well said rodja you are my hero. you should be a lawyer some day cuz you sold me
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  6. Rashard is gonna smack em!

  7. One thing I don't agree too much is the rush to put Rampage back in the tittle shot.

    He's a great fighter, but there are other great fighters in the division. They should give some other guys a tittle shot, most notably, Mashida. Maybe let Rampage have a real battle with someone else before tittle shot, let's say, Page x Griffin 2? Why not? Winner moves on.

    Rampage is only 2 fights away from the tittle loss, and lets be honest here, Wanderlei (as much as I love the guy...) hasn't been dominant and is far from the threat he used to be back in Pride days, and is not one of the top contenders anymore, and neither is Jardine. So I'm very much against piggybacking Mashida and giving Page another tittle shot prior.

  8. dude...machida is fighting rashad NOT rampage. rampage turned it down due to rest and recover, minor injury. And he definatly does need a title shot. griffin doesnt deserve a title shot until he beats a guy or 2. griffin needs to fight chuck if chuck beats shogun.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    dude...machida is fighting rashad NOT rampage. rampage turned it down due to rest and recover, minor injury. And he definatly does need a title shot. griffin doesnt deserve a title shot until he beats a guy or 2. griffin needs to fight chuck if chuck beats shogun.
    I am aware of the fight card being Machida x Rashad.

    My problem is exactly that, that Page had to TURN IT DOWN in order for Machida to get the shot. I don't understand how someone who's not lost in god knows how long doesn't get a first shot at this, and has to rely upon Page being hurt to get the tittle shot.

    So I don't get why Page at first piggybacked Machida at a tittle shot even though he lost not too long ago and only fought a couple of so so fighters.

  10. Because Page never ****ing lost. That's why.

  11. I thought Forrest Griffin was the one holding the belt when he fought Rashad... My mistake.

    And on the other hand, I also thought that Machida is 14-0 in his MMA career. Now he ACTUALLY never lost. No one needs to argue he was robbed by decision against Griffin or anything. He IS unbeaten.

    So one has never lost. One lost 2 fights ago, and you have to argue and try to make a point for him that he was robbed in the decision (which I seriously disagree). And it's just fine to put Page back up? Why, because he sells more tickets for UFC and is more popular? Ok...

  12. people who just lost the belt usually get a chance faster. also forrest too kthe belt from jackson and rashad took the belt from forrest. stop arguing about it jackson beat wandy and jardine who are better than thiago and ortiz. machida is great dont get me wrong he could beat all these guys. UFC is looking for a slugfest. it was a close decision but they gave it to page to fight and he didnt take it. people shouldnt be that mad machida would be the first to fight for it anyways and has jsut as good of a chance to beat rashad as he does page. these starts are fighting more often so it wont be waiting that long before another shot.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I thought Forrest Griffin was the one holding the belt when he fought Rashad... My mistake.

    And on the other hand, I also thought that Machida is 14-0 in his MMA career. Now he ACTUALLY never lost. No one needs to argue he was robbed by decision against Griffin or anything. He IS unbeaten.

    So one has never lost. One lost 2 fights ago, and you have to argue and try to make a point for him that he was robbed in the decision (which I seriously disagree). And it's just fine to put Page back up? Why, because he sells more tickets for UFC and is more popular? Ok...
    Yes, he was holding Rampage's belt.

    Yes Machida is 14-0 against weak ass contenders minus his last fight.

    I'll tell you why. Because Rampage never lost, period. It doesn't matter whether you agree or not. Rampage is also higher in the rankings, and HAS been ahead of Machida for months. It is fine to put Rampage back up because he deserves it, period. And, because I like him.

    I can go beat 3 ten year old asses, it doesn't give me the credibility to call myself a champion. Let Machida fight another name, and then he can deserve a title shot.

    Being undefeated is so overrated. None of the best P4P fighters are undefeated, that should tell you something.

  14. WORD!

    hes great and will get even better and do great things but he needs to fight more. tito sucks balls now so he only beat number 10 ranked guy i think. im not counting him out or anything or bashing on him because the UFC sorta screws him but it shouldnt be a big deal that he was behind page.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Emerge View Post
    I'll tell you why. Because Rampage never lost, period. It doesn't matter whether you agree or not. Rampage is also higher in the rankings, and HAS been ahead of Machida for months. It is fine to put Rampage back up because he deserves it, period. And, because I like him.
    Now that's exactly where you're mistaken... Machida has been higher than Page for some time now, and still is. He was ranked ahead of Page when he was given the oportunity to fight again for the tittle.

    And for you to say that Rashad is holding Pages belt... Well, it's actually Griffin's belt, seeing he beat Page to get it and he was the last one holding it. Hence why Griffin is actually also ranked ahead of Page...

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=8364&zone****1

    Rashad
    Machida
    Griffn
    and only then, Rampage.

    And it has been like that for some time now. So it's not quite as either A) he's holding pages belt B) Page is ranked higher than Machida C) Paga has never lost.

  16. Alas, I concede about the rankings. There is no arguing there, but you know those rankings are pretty questionable and up for debate.

    I remember seeing Rampage at #2 about a month or so ago. He just won, so I have no clue how he could have gone all the way to #4 and how Griffin is ahead of him. The fact is Griffin got a ****ty decision against Rampage. And, even if you think Griffin won you have to agree that it was by a slim margin. However, Griffin got DESTROYED and should have a lower ranking for that.

    I never said Page has NEVER lost. I simply stated he hasn't lost in a long time and his Griffin loss was garbage. And still, you can't prove Machida has proven himself against noteable competition which Rampage has time and time again.

  17. I would say that it has been awhile sense Rampage had a good win, and as far as the Griffin Rampage fight, Rampage simply gave that one away he looked like crap and fought like crap (I am a Rampage fan btw) I am happy with the way things worked out Evans vs. Machida will be a good fight then Rampage gets a shot at the winner down the road.

  18. This was a very classy thread. People were able to disagree and not take it to a personal bashing fest, special kudos to Blah55 and Emerge.
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  19. Machida deserves a shot based on several factors:
    1. He has beaten everyone that has been put in front of him...decisively.
    2. It is the logical match-up at this moment (it would be about 3-4 months before Page will be ready).
    3. His momentum is very high at this moment after beating Tito and KO'ing Thiago.
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  20. rashad wins

  21. A Rashad/Machida is a very non-stressful match up for me. I like them both, but not one over the other. Rampage on the other hand, I'd be nervous, because I'd really want him to win.
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  22. I'm pulling for Machida on this one. Just because it'll be fun seeing how he reacts to other fights who are put in front of him.

    I think Rashad is going to fall at his trap. He's going to back off and just catch him with a counter I think. Rashad is very anxious to get his wins and will stalk Machida. At least that's the way I feel about it.

    And then I'll be even more excited to see Page x Machida, as I feel their styles also colide and will provide a very interesting matchup. I think that if Machida can win this belt on this fight he may very well be able to hold it for a little while.

  23. yeah page vs. machida i wouldnt care i like both of them. i just want rashad to lose even tho hes good im still mad he K.O.ed chuck back to the 90's. they both deserve a shot no matter what it was just a little strange how they decided. Page did the right thing.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I'm pulling for Machida on this one. Just because it'll be fun seeing how he reacts to other fights who are put in front of him.

    I think Rashad is going to fall at his trap. He's going to back off and just catch him with a counter I think. Rashad is very anxious to get his wins and will stalk Machida. At least that's the way I feel about it.

    And then I'll be even more excited to see Page x Machida, as I feel their styles also colide and will provide a very interesting matchup. I think that if Machida can win this belt on this fight he may very well be able to hold it for a little while.
    Unfortunately, I agree.
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  25. I hope Evans loses only because I cannot stand someone who acts like he did against Griffin. Grabbing his crotch when he took a shot. I don't mind cockiness, but to me that was just unsportsmanlike. I know it happens, but I still don't like it. But the kid is good. I can't take that from him.
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