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    Alas, I concede about the rankings. There is no arguing there, but you know those rankings are pretty questionable and up for debate.

    I remember seeing Rampage at #2 about a month or so ago. He just won, so I have no clue how he could have gone all the way to #4 and how Griffin is ahead of him. The fact is Griffin got a ****ty decision against Rampage. And, even if you think Griffin won you have to agree that it was by a slim margin. However, Griffin got DESTROYED and should have a lower ranking for that.

    I never said Page has NEVER lost. I simply stated he hasn't lost in a long time and his Griffin loss was garbage. And still, you can't prove Machida has proven himself against noteable competition which Rampage has time and time again.

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    I would say that it has been awhile sense Rampage had a good win, and as far as the Griffin Rampage fight, Rampage simply gave that one away he looked like crap and fought like crap (I am a Rampage fan btw) I am happy with the way things worked out Evans vs. Machida will be a good fight then Rampage gets a shot at the winner down the road.
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    This was a very classy thread. People were able to disagree and not take it to a personal bashing fest, special kudos to Blah55 and Emerge.
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    Machida deserves a shot based on several factors:
    1. He has beaten everyone that has been put in front of him...decisively.
    2. It is the logical match-up at this moment (it would be about 3-4 months before Page will be ready).
    3. His momentum is very high at this moment after beating Tito and KO'ing Thiago.
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    rashad wins
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    A Rashad/Machida is a very non-stressful match up for me. I like them both, but not one over the other. Rampage on the other hand, I'd be nervous, because I'd really want him to win.
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    I'm pulling for Machida on this one. Just because it'll be fun seeing how he reacts to other fights who are put in front of him.

    I think Rashad is going to fall at his trap. He's going to back off and just catch him with a counter I think. Rashad is very anxious to get his wins and will stalk Machida. At least that's the way I feel about it.

    And then I'll be even more excited to see Page x Machida, as I feel their styles also colide and will provide a very interesting matchup. I think that if Machida can win this belt on this fight he may very well be able to hold it for a little while.
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    yeah page vs. machida i wouldnt care i like both of them. i just want rashad to lose even tho hes good im still mad he K.O.ed chuck back to the 90's. they both deserve a shot no matter what it was just a little strange how they decided. Page did the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I'm pulling for Machida on this one. Just because it'll be fun seeing how he reacts to other fights who are put in front of him.

    I think Rashad is going to fall at his trap. He's going to back off and just catch him with a counter I think. Rashad is very anxious to get his wins and will stalk Machida. At least that's the way I feel about it.

    And then I'll be even more excited to see Page x Machida, as I feel their styles also colide and will provide a very interesting matchup. I think that if Machida can win this belt on this fight he may very well be able to hold it for a little while.
    Unfortunately, I agree.
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    I hope Evans loses only because I cannot stand someone who acts like he did against Griffin. Grabbing his crotch when he took a shot. I don't mind cockiness, but to me that was just unsportsmanlike. I know it happens, but I still don't like it. But the kid is good. I can't take that from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyHulk View Post
    I hope Evans loses only because I cannot stand someone who acts like he did against Griffin. Grabbing his crotch when he took a shot. I don't mind cockiness, but to me that was just unsportsmanlike. I know it happens, but I still don't like it. But the kid is good. I can't take that from him.
    Excellent point. I'd forgotten about that moment in the fight with Forrest. Perfect reason why Matt Hughes thought he was a punk on TUF.
    A bunch of fighters play the cooky role (page, chuck, wandy, mir, etc) but they keep it somewhat respectful and they get down to business when its in the cage. Nobody watched him grab his cok in after getting hit by forrest and thought, wow he must be a badass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    Excellent point. I'd forgotten about that moment in the fight with Forrest. Perfect reason why Matt Hughes thought he was a punk on TUF.
    A bunch of fighters play the cooky role (page, chuck, wandy, mir, etc) but they keep it somewhat respectful and they get down to business when its in the cage. Nobody watched him grab his cok in after getting hit by forrest and thought, wow he must be a badass.
    Even BJ Penn at least waits until the fights over before licking the blood off his opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    Excellent point. I'd forgotten about that moment in the fight with Forrest. Perfect reason why Matt Hughes thought he was a punk on TUF.
    A bunch of fighters play the cooky role (page, chuck, wandy, mir, etc) but they keep it somewhat respectful and they get down to business when its in the cage. Nobody watched him grab his cok in after getting hit by forrest and thought, wow he must be a badass.
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    I can agree with that as well. I'm sure he could've found something else to do other than what he did.
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    yeah thats what makes people think UFC is lame. hes pisses me off getting all dressed up blinged out like a basketball palyer or something just like gsp. i know they are trying to be professional and look good but they do it a way that jsut rubs me the wrong way. i hope machida wins and if he doesnt i hope page destroys rashad. rashads fun to watch hes getting good. after watching interviews and also TUF page really won me over that guys flat out cool
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    I have to admit that I am just a Machida hater. Still though, his win against tito was very unimpressive (to me atleast).

    I do want Rashad to beat him, because I think Rampage will match up better against Rashad then against Machida.
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    I'm not a big fan of the Machida FIGHTS, but I'm a huge fan of Machida himself.

    I think his fights are boring, that he doesn't really provide much as far as entertainment goes, but hell, I think he's a great fighter with loads of skills. And I think that if he becomes a champion, the UFC will have nothing to do besides spot him in a few good fights like Page, Griffin, etc, etc. And that would just force Machida prove to the world that even though he's not interesting to watch, he's still got some serious skills and he diserves the tittle.

    So yeah, I'm cheering for him on this fight, cheering that he'll take the belt, and that he'll show everyone how you can have defensive skills and still be a great fighter.
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    i hope he wins then page takes the belt then defends the belt against rashad and griffin
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I'm not a big fan of the Machida FIGHTS, but I'm a huge fan of Machida himself.

    I think his fights are boring, that he doesn't really provide much as far as entertainment goes, but hell, I think he's a great fighter with loads of skills. And I think that if he becomes a champion, the UFC will have nothing to do besides spot him in a few good fights like Page, Griffin, etc, etc. And that would just force Machida prove to the world that even though he's not interesting to watch, he's still got some serious skills and he diserves the tittle.

    So yeah, I'm cheering for him on this fight, cheering that he'll take the belt, and that he'll show everyone how you can have defensive skills and still be a great fighter.
    I can appreciate your logic. As a fighter I too would rather be like Machida than wandy. But, as a spectator, I rather see two wandys killing each other for 25 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I'm not a big fan of the Machida FIGHTS, but I'm a huge fan of Machida himself.

    I think his fights are boring, that he doesn't really provide much as far as entertainment goes, but hell, I think he's a great fighter with loads of skills. And I think that if he becomes a champion, the UFC will have nothing to do besides spot him in a few good fights like Page, Griffin, etc, etc. And that would just force Machida prove to the world that even though he's not interesting to watch, he's still got some serious skills and he diserves the tittle.

    So yeah, I'm cheering for him on this fight, cheering that he'll take the belt, and that he'll show everyone how you can have defensive skills and still be a great fighter.
    That pretty sums up my positions on Machida as well.
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    Yeah, I'll agree with that, Wandy's fights are the best, always a slugfest.

    I also enjoy that Joe Stevenson totally gave up on all other fighting style and now only fights for the public. I don't think that's wize, but he's always put on a good show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Yeah, I'll agree with that, Wandy's fights are the best, always a slugfest.

    I also enjoy that Joe Stevenson totally gave up on all other fighting style and now only fights for the public. I don't think that's wize, but he's always put on a good show.
    I loved the blood bath BJ put on Stevenson last summer, but then there was that GSP thing....
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    Stevenson is a good gatekeeper at 155. HE is fighting Nate at the TUF finale I believe. I would really like to see Daddy move to 145 and the WEC. Him and Faber/Brown could be fun to see
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    If Joe Daddy loses you will absolutely see him in the WEC. He could be exciting against Jamie V too. Cerrone needs to fight Diaz.
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    serious joe daddy cant beat top 5 155 anymore and could lose to guys in top 10. he needs to rethink things or go to 145
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    I don't know... I don't think the problem with Joe is much of his weight class, but rather lack of gameplan.

    If you see him fighting you will see one thing, and one thing only. A Brawl. He seems to have no different gameplan for a guy who is a Muay Thai expert to a BJJ Red Belt... He always approach the fight the same way.

    Which is weird to me considering how good of a wrestler / bjj he is, that he's always just standing up with no matter who it is, never looking for an opening from the opponent or an area that he may be flawed.

    Even if he drops to 145, if he maintains the lack of versatility he's shown lately, people will eventually figure him out, just like they did in the 155.
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    Maybe he needs some ATT like Iceman for that last shot in the dark.
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