Frank Mir hurt, out of UFC 98 bout with Brock Lesnar

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  1. Frank Mir hurt, out of UFC 98 bout with Brock Lesnar


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    One day before UFC 96 kicks off with a main event that has sparked minimal interest, the organization may be losing a main event bout that was already heavily anticipated.

    According to a report at Fiveouncesofpain.com, UFC interim heavyweight champion Frank Mir has been forced to withdraw from his UFC 98 main event bout with UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar.

    The report originally referred to a back injury, but now cites a knee injury that required surgery as the culprit for the change.

    The surgery will reportedly sideline Mir for four to six weeks.

    Attempts by MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) to reach Mir for confirmation of the report were unsuccessful.

    "UFC 98: Lesnar vs. Mir 2" was officially announced by the organization earlier this week. Tickets for the May 23 event are scheduled to go on sale to the general public Saturday.

    Mir, who lives and trains in Las Vegas, is currently in Columbus, Ohio. The interim champion was originally scheduled to take part in the UFC's Fight Club Q&A session prior to the "UFC 96: Jackson vs. Jardine" weigh-ins, but he was replaced by former welterweight champion Matt Hughes.

    Sources close to Mir indicated to MMAjunkie.com that the 29-year-old was still in training for the bout with Lesnar less than one week ago. It is currently unknown if the UFC will seek a replacement for Mir on the card.

    Mir last saw action in December 2008 with a second-round TKO of then-interim-champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. Ironically, there were several reports of a possible severe back injury in the days preceding the bout. Following his win, Mir told TAGG Radio (TAGG Radio Network - Home of TAGG Radio & The Lights Out Show!), the official radio partner of MMAjunkie.com, that he was happy to help the false reports proliferate.

    "Every fighter gets injured a lot during training camps," Mir said. "One thing I've learned not to do is I don't really give any validity to my injuries. Some of my injuries are fake. I've faked a few injuries in the past but not to pull out of fights or anything. It's just there a lot of rumors out there, and when I hear them, I help people out. ... 'Go tell people and put it on the Internet.'

    "That way when a real, legitimate injury goes through, people question whether I'm really hurt or not."


  2. wait, so he is really injured right? It's so hard to respect injuries before a rival fight, legitimate or not, my first instinct is always that it's a duck move. Oh well. I don't know who they could replace Mir with that would equal the anticipation (short of Randy Couture; and that one would have it's issues).
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  3. i was thinking gonzaga given he wins this fight. but it might be to short of a time period for gonzaga to step up to the plate.
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  4. and to be honest. i think if they do pick gonzaga. i think lesnar would have alot of work to do with his ground game.

  5. I hope they postpone the fight...

    But if they do put Gonzaga in there against Lesnar, I'm picking Gonzaga for sure.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by aquanutz View Post
    I hope they postpone the fight...

    But if they do put Gonzaga in there against Lesnar, I'm picking Gonzaga for sure.
    That would be a good fight. However, I don't know if I'd say "for sure." Randy raped Gonzaga and Lesnar man handled Couture. I know Gonzaga has more technical skill then Lesnar, but again, I'll refer to my previous example.
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  7. Gonzaga is more legit than Mir is.

    However this injury benefts Lesnar more than Mir as he gets more BJJ training. Mir should want to fight Lesnar ASAP before Lesnar really evolves into a monster ala GSP.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Emerge View Post
    Gonzaga is more legit than Mir is.

    However this injury benefts Lesnar more than Mir as he gets more BJJ training. Mir should want to fight Lesnar ASAP before Lesnar really evolves into a monster ala GSP.
    good point.
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  9. i think gonzaga is either really really bad effin ass. or he really really sucks at times. i think he had one of those times with couture. i mean the man is a beast. if he has his head on right. we will see. tonight against shane carwin.

  10. agreed, tonight will tell us a lot about both GG and Carwin. Is Carwin for real, or does GG fin ally have it together. GG has the tools to be a dominant hwy. However, his past mental lapses andheart shrinkage leaves a lot to be desired
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  11. lets hope he does what he did to cro cop. one of the sickest knockouts ive ever seen in my life.

  12. I want to see Randy fight him once more because, Randy did win the first round vs Lesnar. If not Randy then Dana needs to get his ass into gear and bring Fedor in. I don't care who owns Fedor right now he has the money BUY HIM!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bendiesel View Post
    lets hope he does what he did to cro cop. one of the sickest knockouts ive ever seen in my life.
    God that killed me. I didn't know who Gonzaga was at that time and I was pimping the hell out of Cro Crop to my non-Pride FC friends, so when Cro Cop got beat by his own finishing move.... it sucked. Cro Cop was my number two favorite fighter at that time.
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  14. Looks as if Gonzaga got owned last night.

  15. To be fair, Gonzaga was exposing Carwin on his feet early - his sheer size is the only thing which kept him on his feet early. Honestly, that win made me see why people dislike Brock: one quick arm shot can end the night of a better fighter.

  16. Then Gonzaga/Lesnar is out of the question.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    To be fair, Gonzaga was exposing Carwin on his feet early - his sheer size is the only thing which kept him on his feet early. Honestly, that win made me see why people dislike Brock: one quick arm shot can end the night of a better fighter.
    That would be my only reasoning for people's fascination with a Fedor/Brock. Clearly there is an atmospheric difference in class, but one lucky shot could result in a KO.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    That would be my only reasoning for people's fascination with a Fedor/Brock. Clearly there is an atmospheric difference in class, but one lucky shot could result in a KO.
    It can. It is disconcerting, as Gonzaga was a large, powerfull heavyweight with great hands, and it was still difficult to put Carwin down. This may not be fair, but Carwin's win sullied my opinion of Brock!

  19. I personally think Brock is better than Carwin. To me he seems to have a bit more athleticism.
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  20. gonzaga isnt better than mir. and i am getting so tired of people talking about size. you can be fuking 265 so if you think its that good then bulk up damn

  21. Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    gonzaga isnt better than mir. and i am getting so tired of people talking about size. you can be fuking 265 so if you think its that good then bulk up damn
    Size needs to be in context, though. A muscular 265 and a less-than-athletic 265 are associated with entirely different spectrums of power, speed, athleticism and so on; most definitely size comes into the equations. Quite frankly, an individual who was not 265 would not knock out Gonzaga with an arm punch so, you have to take it into consideration.

    Size is not the only factor, but when coupled with speed and athleticism it differentiates two fighters.

  22. like it or not, being knocked out in one shot is the reality of any fighter. I dont think carwin got lucky at all. i think gonzaga got lucky with cro cop. im not saying he isnt a great fighter, but he got F!!kin smashed last night.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by dedlifter1 View Post
    like it or not, being knocked out in one shot is the reality of any fighter. I dont think carwin got lucky at all. i think gonzaga got lucky with cro cop. im not saying he isnt a great fighter, but he got F!!kin smashed last night.
    I never said it was luck, but it was an arm shot that, delivered from another individual, would not have knocked Gonzaga out. Nothing too controversial and/or profound about that statement.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I never said it was luck, but it was an arm shot that, delivered from another individual, would not have knocked Gonzaga out. Nothing too controversial and/or profound about that statement.
    im just not a gonzaga fan. and to say it wouldnt have ko'ed him is pure speculation and not profound in the least, your right.

  25. not trying to sound like a prick.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by dedlifter1 View Post
    im just not a gonzaga fan. and to say it wouldnt have ko'ed him is pure speculation and not profound in the least, your right.
    It was literally an arm punch with no rotation of the hips - to say there are a select few individuals that can K.O., somebody with that shot is not speculation by any means.

    We may be missing the line of communication here. What I am saying is this: the size of Carwin and Brock, allowing them to absorb and dole out more damage, makes up for their skill disadvantages; particularly, in situations where their unsuspecting punches - ala Randy v., Brock, Carwin v., Gonzaga - K.O. their opponents. So, as you said, nothing too profound or difficult to understand about that in the least.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    It was literally an arm punch with no rotation of the hips - to say there are a select few individuals that can K.O., somebody with that shot is not speculation by any means.

    We may be missing the line of communication here. What I am saying is this: the size of Carwin and Brock, allowing them to absorb and dole out more damage, makes up for their skill disadvantages; particularly, in situations where their unsuspecting punches - ala Randy v., Brock, Carwin v., Gonzaga - K.O. their opponents. So, as you said, nothing too profound or difficult to understand about that in the least.
    yeah i agree with that, esspecially since i recently made the same argument concerning brock. and yes thei skill disadvantages are evident. i personally thinkmir looks awesome. im not and never will be a gonzaga fan tho.

  28. then props to him. im so sick of people talking about size. they OWRK ON THEIR SIZE jsut like others work on their other skills. if they fought again carwin would win again. lesner is better than gonzaga aswell

  29. Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    gonzaga isnt better than mir. and i am getting so tired of people talking about size. you can be fuking 265 so if you think its that good then bulk up damn
    Spot on.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    It can. It is disconcerting, as Gonzaga was a large, powerfull heavyweight with great hands, and it was still difficult to put Carwin down. This may not be fair, but Carwin's win sullied my opinion of Brock!
    I can see where you're coming from.
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  31. I'm still a major Lesnar fan and supporter and my philosophies may differ in validating Lesnar's legitimacy, but I can see your spectrum of reasoning.
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  32. if they fought again i also agree carwin would win. and no way gonzaga is better than mir. NNNOOO WWWAAYY.

  33. seriously! lesner over gonzag, mir over gonzaga, carwin over gonzaga, id have to say mir did impress me i think those 3 are all a toss up if they fought it would be diff everytime. i think lesner will surprise us even more. that guy must be training hard. stop the whole lesner and carwin are just big! its FOKING heavy weight damnit! you choose what you wanna be hahaha damn its all in there strat

  34. basically it comes down to this anyway, carwin weighs 265, and people are arguing that his size had to do with his win. gonzaga weighs 250. when you start talking about weight over 250+ lbs, 15 isnt all that much of a difference. gonzaga got beat. period.

  35. He did get beat. Shane's clinch must have frustrated gonzaga into letting down his guard. Half a clinch at that.

  36. yeah both of them could be heavier or lighter if they wanted. if 285 was the limit i wonder what carwin would want to be. i want carwin to get a couple more fights and have a good match with lesner.

  37. i can def see lesnar vs carwin. very very bad ass fight.

  38. Definitely. Shane needs some more good fights in preparation for a lesnar fight. Then again lesnar hasn't had many fights either (as major as they were) so it could be to shane's advantage to fight him early.
    I think Randy should get a few more in as well so he can come back for a rematch.. or hell drop back down in weight f**k i just miss the ol' Natural.

  39. Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    Definitely. Shane needs some more good fights in preparation for a lesnar fight. Then again lesnar hasn't had many fights either (as major as they were) so it could be to shane's advantage to fight him early.
    I think Randy should get a few more in as well so he can come back for a rematch.. or hell drop back down in weight f**k i just miss the ol' Natural.
    randy couture= classiest fighter ever.

  40. Quote Originally Posted by dedlifter1 View Post
    randy couture= classiest fighter ever.
    I'd like to throw Wandy Silva in that same acclaim of classiest fighter.
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