Who's excited about Mark Coleman's Return??
- 01-12-2009, 11:01 PM
- 01-12-2009, 11:02 PM
01-13-2009, 01:21 AM
I've always thought that he has the best body in MMA. Ken Shamrock in his prime would also be a runner up.
It's the damn cardio that kills these big guys though..
01-13-2009, 01:36 AM
There are bigger fighters with better cardio, it's just that his physique is too inplated for his frame.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
01-13-2009, 12:09 PM
He's a phisical freak, it's unbelieveable. How someone gets to that phisique and still trains hard for MMA, is just something I can't grasp!
But I think it'll be a fun fight. We'll see probably the strongest 205 ever, wouldn't you guys say? Shogun will have his hands full. We'll see if he hasn't lost a step though, hope not.
01-13-2009, 12:11 PM
01-13-2009, 03:15 PM
01-13-2009, 03:24 PM
I personally think he is washed up like Shamrock, Tito, and Chuck Liddell. He used to be one of the greats though!
01-13-2009, 04:18 PM
01-13-2009, 04:51 PM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
01-13-2009, 06:00 PM
01-13-2009, 07:00 PM
01-13-2009, 07:03 PM
He's beaten Shogun before (I don't care if Shogun just landed badly on his arm that time. That was a TKO clearly the result of a Takedown,) and he lost only by submissions to one of the finest grapplers in the world (Fedor.) In recent times only Cro Cop was able to knock him out.
This guy's also won the Pride 2000 OW Grand Prix, which is !4! fights in One night.
I think he'll have a good chance against Shogun. I don't think Shogun's striking ability is anywhere near Cro Cop's (in his prime when he fought Coleman..)
01-13-2009, 07:10 PM
This fight really depends on the health/status of Mauricio. If he's right, then it will not end well for Coleman.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
01-13-2009, 08:42 PM
Any olympic wrestler (he placed 7th in 92) and former NCAA champ is a very accomplished grappler. He has the best double leg in the history of the sport. He certainly doesnt have a submission offense, but his defense is good. He's only been subbed by Nog and Fedor. We all know the Takada fight was a work. I agree that a healthy Shogun should smash him, but you cant count Coleman out, especially in a cage. He showed a lot of heart during the Fedor massacre, and is far from a shot fighter like Shamrock. The man pioneered GnP and IMO deserves mad respect.
01-13-2009, 11:21 PM
01-14-2009, 02:46 AM
But the takedowns he used to pull on the guys he used to force it to... Well, someone just half strong just could not pull those. He's taken down some huge dudes and he has done that over and over and over, many fights, many times on each ones of those.
With all that said, I'd still side with Shogun if he's fully healthy. I give Griffin credit for the win but it was still on a time where he just wasn't himself and for an error, because that fight belong to him, if it was up to the judges I think Shogun would've won. But no excuses on MMA so I'll just say that I think Shogun will be the one comming out victorious on this one.
01-14-2009, 12:20 PM
01-14-2009, 02:45 PM
01-14-2009, 06:47 PM
01-15-2009, 12:25 AM
01-15-2009, 10:39 AM
Just check out UFC.com and there's a video about his trainning camp. Of course, that won't show his strength, only his body, but knowing him I'd say he's looking on a really good track to this fight.
01-15-2009, 10:43 AM
01-16-2009, 01:13 PM
at this point in their respective careers, Coleman will have to wrestle, gnp and lnp to securer a win. He will also need to be very careful as if he gets careless Shogun will sub him. I dont see it going further than a minute or 2 into rd 2 with a shogun sub victory.
Now, Hendo v. Franklin I am totally torn about. However, at the end of the day I will say Hendo by UD, as I think his wrestling and grinding style will wear Franklin down.
O am also interested to see Kang in the cage. A little fresh blood at 185 is a good thing, as Bisping is not the answer to Anderson (hell, neither is Kang)
01-17-2009, 12:23 PM
01-17-2009, 02:29 PM
Odds right now I think are something like -300 shogun, +250 coleman. I don't think it should be that far..
01-17-2009, 11:17 PM
01-18-2009, 09:08 AM
I was not impressed by Shogun, but he fights Liddell in May or April now I believe UFC 97
WTF Rampage v. Jardine?
01-18-2009, 03:45 PM
Mark Coleman looked horrible. He just looked decent because Shogun looked almost as bad as him.
What a horrible fight. Both gased in the end of the 1st round without much reason for that.
01-18-2009, 04:15 PM
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