F-U Dana White
- 11-19-2008, 11:25 PM
F-U Dana White
This is the gayest thing that I have ever heard. If he keeps this up, then the UFC will be done in 5 years.
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- 11-19-2008, 11:29 PM
Wow. He's focusing a little too much on the entertainment aspect. I guess he got jealous of WWE's much greater revenue...
11-19-2008, 11:32 PM
**** man, I like Jon Fitch.
Good for him to keep his integrity. Can't believe Dana White's acting like that; and I thought he was a pretty smart guy. (Smart as in smart like a fox.)
What's so smart about releasing a potential superstar that beat alves and sanchez? (and that didn't get KO/TKO/subbed by GSP?)
11-20-2008, 09:35 AM
good for them to stand up..but with so little choices out there to make money in this sport you hope its the right choice for them
11-20-2008, 09:54 AM
11-20-2008, 10:20 AM
well it is a business, and Dana made some business decisions. In the long run, those who stood up will suffer more than the UFC
11-20-2008, 04:06 PM
11-20-2008, 04:13 PM
that was cold @$$ blooded. Dana could have ran a mafia with his stern and unyielding business sense. Fitch was a good fighter, what a shame.
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11-20-2008, 04:33 PM
I hate Dana White. I believe UFC fighters receive approximately 5% of the revenue the UFC receives. By comparison, players in the professional leagues for Hockey, Baseball, Basketball, Football and so forth receive about 45-55%.
11-20-2008, 05:59 PM
I dont disagree that there is a huge financial disparity, especially when compared to boxing for example. However, as mentioned before this is a business, and no one forces them into the cage. I feel bad in essence, I like Fitch, however, what the boss says, sadly one must comply or look for employment elsewhere
11-20-2008, 06:09 PM
Nonetheless, 5% is still dry rape with 0% humidity.
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11-20-2008, 06:12 PM
11-20-2008, 06:35 PM
Dana White is just a pimp and all the UFC fighters are the hoes. I don't like Dana and in his interviews he seems smug. Like some ppl on the forum but in the end no matter how big and tough these fighters are they don't think things through and the business man will always prevail. They gotta have things like this in their contracts to prevent this kind of stuff from happening like back in the day when Charles Barkley wouldn't allow his name on the NBA videos games. The NBA couldn't kick him out. The fighters are more worried about getting in the ring and fighting than they are financial security or longevity of their careers. If fighting is going to be your profession. Treat it like a profession and don't be a dumb jock and say " i do it for the passion". Cuz passion and feelings will just get you screwed in the end.
11-20-2008, 11:38 PM
It's absurd. White is trying to garner a monopoly on the sport and he treats the fighters like their his pawns. He basically owns them. If he acts as unprofessional towards the fighters as he sounds in his interviews then there is a problem. I don't see how a business man (even in MMA) can drop the kind of language he does on such a consistent basis.
I think the fighters are underpaid compared to the amount of work that they put into the sport and considering it costs $45 to watch most of their events at home. It's a shame the disparity in pay among the fighters.
It's understandable that business decisions need to be made, but they should be made with good ethics in mind. The fact that Fitch was fired over a stupid video game is incredible.
White could have just left him out of the stupid video game instead. He seems very unstable to me - maybe he should take a vacation.
11-21-2008, 12:01 AM
What I find still incredible is how good MMA fighters are still getting nothing compared to boxers.
For eg. Manny Pacquiao is getting 20M for his fight w/ delahoya +% of gate and PPV.
With that salary, Pacman can actually buy a small chunk of the UFC LOL.
11-21-2008, 08:52 AM
Maybe Dana got a kick in the balls to straighten himself out:
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11-21-2008, 09:24 AM
11-21-2008, 09:33 AM
11-21-2008, 12:21 PM
11-21-2008, 12:57 PM
How can a trailer park trash scumbag like Dana White continue to run this company the way he does? This guy's mouth and business ethics are completely unbelievable. Who would want to sign their entire life away? Fitch is completely justified in not wanting to sign his rights away for the rest of his life. Nobody should be strong-armed and forced into that. Dana is such a dirty P.O.S. if there is any contract dispute and Dr. Evil doesn't get his way, then he threatens to cut the fighter and say "good luck getting a job somewhere else". That, my friends, is not how a PARTNERSHIP works. There needs to be something gained for both parties involved. Dana knows that his business is the 800 lbs. gorilla and he consistently uses that as leverage over all his fighters to strong-arm them into submission.
11-21-2008, 08:33 PM
This is actually one of those times that people stood up for what's right and won, good job Fitch and company!
11-21-2008, 09:31 PM
11-22-2008, 09:45 AM
11-25-2008, 08:57 AM
Sports-themed video games are huge moneymakers for publishers, but using the likeness of a professional athlete in these games is proving to be an increasingly contentious undertaking. The upcoming UFC Undisputed 2009 serves as the most recent example of this, as reports surfaced yesterday that popular fighters Jon Fitch and Josh Koscheck were on the outs with the Ultimate Fighting Championship organization. The reason? They were being asked to sign away their likeness rights for life. For Fitch, the disagreement has become so intense that he had already been cut by the company.
Fitch was let go by the organization earlier this week because he had refused to sign a lifetime contract that would have given the game publisher THQ the right to use his likeness for UFC games. The presentation of the contract rubbed him the wrong way, according to an interview he did with Hardcore Sports Radio: "They basically kicked the door open, guns blazing, pointed it in our face and said, 'Sign this or you're going to pay.'" The contract also wouldn't have given his family payments for the use of his likeness in the event of his death.
UFC President Dana White took Fitch's hesitancy personally and cut Fitch from the organization's roster rather than entering negotiations regarding the specifics of the contract. When asked about the move by MMAJunkie, White's temper seemed to get the better of him: "Let [Fitch] go work with [Affliction]. Let him see what he thinks of those [expletives]. [Expletive] him. These guys aren't partners with us. [Expletive] them. All of them, every last [expletive] one of them." Despite the anger, White's position was clear: UFC was in the business of promoting fighters, and if the fighters didn't like how that was handled, they knew where to find the door.
However, less than 24 hours later, Fitch was back with the UFC and has signed a contract that will allow his likeness to appear in UFC Undisputed 2009. Whether the deal Fitch ultimately agreed to was different from the original contract isn't clear.
This isn't the only recent case involving the rights of professional athletes that appear in sports-themed video games. Earlier this month, a group of retired NFL players won a $28 million judgment against the NFL Players Association, which had allowed their likenesses to be used in Madden football games without appropriate compensation. While the NFLPA announced that it would appealing the verdict, there is serious doubt that the 9th Circuit Court will overturn the decision, as some rather incriminating e-mails demonstrated that the retired players' likenesses were intentionally scrambled so the publisher could avoid paying higher licensing fees.
While Fitch's position with the UFC seems to have been resolved, fellow fighter Josh Koscheck's future with the organization remains uncertain. He's going through with a scheduled fight with Yoshiyuki Yoshida, and isn't allowing himself to be distracted by the contract. "I'll let my people deal with that and I'll deal with it after my fight," he told MMAFighting.com. "I don't want to have any distractions in my preparation. I'm three weeks away from this fight and I haven't read anything on the Internet, I've stayed away from all it."
One thing that is certain: the rights of athletes when it comes to their appearance in video games doesn't seem like an issue that will be resolved any time soon. UFC fighters are not paid nearly as well as other professional athletes, and their health is in very real danger every time they step into the octagon. The trouble is they have no bargaining power; they have to be ready to give up certain things if they want the UFC to make them a star. If they decline these potentially one-sided deals, there are hundreds of other fighters ready to take their place.
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11-26-2008, 02:33 PM
Dana White has done a TON for this sport and for that I thank him.....however he really needs to have a level head. He acts like a spoiled bully when he doesn't get his way. He has gotten way to egotistical and takes things too personally. Hopefully Lorenzo can keep things on track.
11-30-2008, 02:08 AM
11-30-2008, 09:41 AM
They have a monopoly and want to keep it that way...
Fitch is awesome. I think if he were to fight GSP again we would have a different outcome. His issue was inexperience vs. GSP who has had more "show fights" and I think the nerves got to Fitch.
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