[VolcomX311]

Originally Posted by CryingEmo

I dislike Lesnar because now the perception is that strength and size > technique / skill.

Lesnar has a legit, LEGIT background in college wrestling. As did many successful MMA fighters. Matter of fact, being a DI wrestling champ is a more legit resume then most of the fighters isn't it?

[robdog]

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

Lesnar has a legit, LEGIT background in college wrestling. As did many successful MMA fighters. Matter of fact, being a DI wrestling champ is a more legit resume then most of the fighters isn't it?

Very true. And strength/size can beat skill/technique if the strength/size advantage is drastic.

[VolcomX311]

Originally Posted by robdog

Very true. And strength/size can beat skill/technique if the strength/size advantage is drastic.

I completely agree.

[Rogue Drone]

Lesnar's WWEishness (that's a trademarked term of mine, you owe me a nickel if you use it) is welcomed by the UFC as a replacement for the love 'em/hate 'em loss of Tito Ortiz. Smacktalk and/or Villains sell tickets.

Lesnar is raw, he's a win by beastness who's on the low end of the learning curve, kinda makes me think of what an '88 to '00 era Alexander Karelin new to the sport would do if he was in today's UFC. For those not in the know, Alexander the Great was the pre-MMA archtype of mauling Beast.

Fedorish in XL.



I think Lesnar needs to get away from Minnesota, train somewhere like Team Couture to reach his full potential, if he does, he will be the champ.

[Rogue Drone]

The UFC has a serious sales problem on $40 PPVs every 5 weeks- their Champs are too dominant -diminished expectations on the maincard for anyone that challenges Champions Silva, St. Pierre, Penn and Faber.

Tyson Griffin verus Penn is a good one, Kenflo is no real fight there and GSP to brutally buttf*ck BJ afterwards( mind tight right, GSP's tools will tool a too fat BJ), a leaned Sherk versus Faber would be fun.

Silva can take Forrest Griffin, given proper time to remain at LHW.

I'm mixing commentary and vids, don't like, don't watch. It's the WWEishness in me, yeehaw.

[jas123]

Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

The UFC has a serious sales problem on $40 PPVs every 5 weeks- their Champs are too dominant -diminished expectations on the maincard for anyone that challenges Champions Silva, St. Pierre, Penn and Faber.

Tyson Griffin verus Penn is a good one, Kenflo is no real fight there and GSP to brutally buttf*ck BJ afterwards( mind tight right, GSP's tools will tool a too fat BJ), a leaned Sherk versus Faber would be fun.

Silva can take Forrest Griffin, given proper time to remain at LHW.

I'm mixing commentary and vids, don't like, don't watch. It's the WWEishness in me, yeehaw.

Tyson Griffin? I don't think he has a chance in hell against Penn. He's kind of like a more aggressive Sherk with worse cardio. He has no chance standing and won't be able to take BJ down.

Not that any of these fights will happen, but I'd like to see Alvarez or JZ against BJ. I guess maybe it's possible if Dream loses its TV contract and folds. Also, Anderson would be bewildered by Akiyama's style and crisp tan if that dream matchup happened.

Is that your boy Trace? That song is horrendous, Rogue. I hope your embarrassed

224 #? Damn little man

[Rogue Drone]

I beg to differ. Tyson Griffin is the is only lightweight currently in the UFC who has a full 5 rounds of stamina to fight with great wrestling and a sharp punching ability to give Penn the best fight the UFC has in stock.

I may be wrong, time will tell, that's what I saw of him versus Edgar and Guida. Griffin can close, IMO, better than LNP Sherk.

We shall see, hopefully.

The UFC better find new worthy talent outside of the UFC stable, Japs and Braz and Slavs, what they have currently in stock don't make for a good upset chance versus their champs.

Don't be dissin' TA - he's big, bad ,shrewd, rich, ****ed well all day long, a soundtrack to the Marines in the field, all that you wish you were. I'm more athletic, richer and smarter than he but less able to slap down a vid riff.

You, Me and Trace, any given time@ the singles bar/ battefield, who's most likely to go home grinnin'?

PS - that's a lean rightgeous 224 , stamina and hard everywhere, only you young guys think that bulk is where it's at. Your prespective on the value of slow mass will change once you cross 40. I can run a 5K , in gear or out with Burpies and Pulls, and hit very fast and hard, I've never been more adept at what I want to be.

[jas123]

Griffin's faded in the third a few times like against Edgar and Clay if I remember correctly, and he's gone to a decision in his last 5 fights so he's not a great closer either (but yes better than Sherk). Sherk's going to beat him soon at 90 anyway, and I should be there watching it

I'm sure Trace is money in the redneck community and at NASCAR events, but I'm an icon on the strongman scene. Unfortunately, there are no girls on the strongman scene, but I heard Marius P has quite a following in the gay community. If Alexander's name is thrown into the mix, then TA stands no chance in the battle for female attention. Alex has been filleting b1tches left and right.

[Rogue Drone]

I'll take a bet of Griffin over Sherk.

No question, you are far more ****worthy than Alex is, I'd do you, and you would thank me for it, please, sir, may I have another.

[VolcomX311]

Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

I'll take a bet of Griffin over Sherk.

No question, you are far more ****worthy than Alex is, I'd do you, and you would thank me for it, please, sir, may I have another.

you forgot to put [no homo]

[ersatz]

Tyson challenging BJ is laughable. Could he even get past Huerta, Florian, Sherk, Aoki, Alvarez, or JZ? I think BJ can take GSP as long as he's in shape and hopefully that rematch occurs soon so we can all find out.

[VolcomX311]

Originally Posted by ersatz

Tyson challenging BJ is laughable. Could he even get past Huerta, Florian, Sherk, Aoki, Alvarez, or JZ? I think BJ can take GSP as long as he's in shape and hopefully that rematch occurs soon so we can all find out.

You know what, I'd be right there along side you cheering for BJ, but I'm not as confident as you are about a BJ Penn over GSP victory. Hopeful thinking, though.

[CryingEmo]

GSP is more of a natural 185 than 170. Penn is more of a natural 155.

30 LB's plus a higher vertical leap, more muscle, speed, and wrestling are why GSP will win. Oh and cardio.

Personally I think BJ penn has superior BJJ, striking, and Takedown defense, but he's offset in too many other catagories... Plus his extra weight will be mostly water or fat.

[Mulletsoldier]

Originally Posted by CryingEmo

GSP is more of a natural 185 than 170. Penn is more of a natural 155.

30 LB's plus a higher vertical leap, more muscle, speed, and wrestling are why GSP will win. Oh and cardio.

Personally I think BJ penn has superior BJJ, striking, and Takedown defense, but he's offset in too many other catagories... Plus his extra weight will be mostly water or fat.

Definitely. BJ's cardio is vastly improved at 155, but I think that is because of the weight drop. The move back up to 170, at least in my opinion, would see a reincarnation of the pudgy BJ who has little chance against the new, more dominant GSP. For the record, though, I would have given their first fight to BJ; that being said, I think GSP has progressed much more as a fighter than BJ - while BJ has more or less improved his conditioning, but not evolved as much as a fighter.

[jas123]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

I think GSP has progressed much more as a fighter than BJ - while BJ has more or less improved his conditioning, but not evolved as much as a fighter.

You nailed it there. GSP has improved much more since round 1. On a recent re-viewing of the first one, I had a slightly different opinion of what happened than I used to. BJ did win the standup, but not by as much as I and many had thought and most of damage to Georges happened immediately after the eye poke. I might lean GSP's way, but I'll have to think about it. It seems that GSP can win this by top control and his standup is good enough to avoid damage before the TDs.

[Alexander]