Philly fans rule!!!Originally Posted by Beelzebub
LMFAO, "Ruth did it on hot dogs and beer". If all baseball players did that then we'd have a ****ty sport
Completely missed point by the media. Great post.Originally Posted by Bildo_21
I think another thing that is overlooked is Bond's career stats as they are opposed to McGwire's and Sosa's...Bond's has always been a consistently good power hitter, hit 16 his first year and averaged 30+ home runs for his first ten years. He has also hit 30+ home runs for 13 years straight, a feat that only Sosa comes close to. In fact, McGwire's longest 30+ streak was four years and is by far the most inconsistent hitter of all three. Sosa did not hit more than 15 home runs in his first five years in the league and then exploded for 33 in his sixth year. What I am trying to say is that steroids do not make a sweet swing, plain and simple. Bonds has always been a very good hitter, one of, if not the best of his era. Though juice may have helped him in his quest, they are not the only reason for his dominance.
MS you have a friend in me, as you recognize Bonds has been doing his thing since Bonilla, before the Smash Bros. of the A's. That **** that happened 2 days was unfooking called for, and still nobody call its what it is...Pure unsportsmanship mixed with the good ole boy' know your role play...
Yeah, the public just loves to hate Barry Bonds. McGwire and Sosa were friendly, outgoing, media-savvy and said cheesy **** like "Now I'm going to go to Disneyland", and so their physical condition, inconsistent HR, slugging percentage, on base percentage, etc never came into question. Another thing that makes me mad is that Bond's has also been consistently good at his position, winning 9 Golden Gloves, whereas McGwire won...1!!.In his whole career. Not to mention Bonds is the only member of the 500-500 club, and the only person to hit 40 HR's and steal 40 bases in the same season, and that was way back in the early 90's. Bonds is/was a dominant player in all facets of the game, not just hitting.
no sports figures "deserve" to be a holes!! they may be good at there sport but they have to realize that if not for the fans then they wouldnt be doing that Bonds would probally be flipping burgers or something for a living.Originally Posted by Achilles13
i have one.......
i have a friend who has a son, they were visiting a California hotel and were just walking out and they also saw that barry was walking out, so the kid asks my friend if he could ask for an autograph, dad says yes thatd be good, kid goes up to bonds and asks for his autograph, bonds says "no, maybe later" HOW MANY FRIGGEN TIMES DO YOU SEE A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE that he can just say "No, maybe later" I dont care how much attention he is getting that is still not a reason to be a A$$hole. Ruth will ALWAYS be second in my book, not just because of the the Hrs but because he was GREAT with his fans.
BUT STILL AN ASS!!Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
Oh yeah, no doubt he is a ****. It just severely annoys me when people have Bonds' skill come into question over steroids. His stats were amazing before 99-00 where his physique really started to morph. I think too often people let their perception of him cloud his accomplishments. Ass or not, Bonds is the best player of his era.
Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
Questionably the best player of all time, w/ or w/o the roids...
Jose Conseco did it( 40/40) in1988. so I guess it cannot be done without the juice!Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
Originally Posted by anabolicrhino
you sure he stole 40?
yeah, he did one year. i've got the baseball card tucked away with 40/40 written on it, don't remember the year though.Originally Posted by PumpingIron
damn...i never knew that.
Yeah sorry, was typing without thinking there...Conseco did that as well, but nevertheless the point still stands. Bonds is/was one of the greatest of all time.
That was 1988.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
Forgot to mention that Bonds plays in one of the worst hitter ballparks in the MLB, Sosa played in that Little League ball park called Wrigley Field when he got his. Bonds would have already broken the record if he played at Wrigley Field.
I really can't wait for Bonds to just get it over with. Then we won't have to hear about this until next season when he challenges Hammerin' Hank.
still an ass though....Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
The funniest thing is that the worst thing (proven, worst thing) he has done is be an ******* to the media. You see stories of how many football players getting involved in high speed chases, high on coke holding a gun to their illegitimate child's head, and it gets about 10 seconds of your attention. I would venture to say those individuals have a vastly greater degree of assitude (made that up) for completely wasting their potential then Bonds does for being an ******* while proliferating his.