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Alright well i admit to not searching or looking around. But do you guys have a stack geared for endurance training?
 
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yeah he's pretty much on point with that suggestion. Until the bcaa product is released, that's where it's at man!
 
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Alright well i admit to not searching or looking around. But do you guys have a stack geared for endurance training?
Honestly the C-VO2 and Citruvol work incredibly well and blow 99% of the endurance products away. Add Carnage to the mix and it's no contest. We do have two new endurance related products being released soon as well.

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Honestly the C-VO2 and Citruvol work incredibly well and blow 99% of the endurance products away. Add Carnage to the mix and it's no contest. We do have two new endurance related products being released soon as well.

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Can I get a Matt definition of soon? :)
 
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Can I get a Matt definition of soon? :)
HaHa! These things take some time to get dialed in but I assume one of the two will be 100% ready in about 30-45days. ;) Flavoring is a b1tch so I don't think there is a chance of them being released at the same time but we'll see. We are pacing ourselves....lol
 
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Honestly the C-VO2 and Citruvol work incredibly well and blow 99% of the endurance products away. Add Carnage to the mix and it's no contest. We do have two new endurance related products being released soon as well.

Thanks!
I started taking Carnage on Tuesday and noticed immediate strength increase. This has been my first time using Beta-Alanine at any serious dose. Im impressed. Squatted today, and was WAY up in weight, hard to describe the effects, I would equate it to less pain at that last rep threshold, enabling me to push harder.

I added another 50 pounds to what I usually work with. Thats unheard of for me. I hope it keeps working this well, "pump" type products Arginine AKG and the like work well for me too when I first start them after some time off but the effects die quick. If Beta-Alanine doesnt do this, it will be a new staple for me.
 
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I started taking Carnage on Tuesday and noticed immediate strength increase. This has been my first time using Beta-Alanine at any serious dose. Im impressed. Squatted today, and was WAY up in weight, hard to describe the effects, I would equate it to less pain at that last rep threshold, enabling me to push harder.

I added another 50 pounds to what I usually work with. Thats unheard of for me. I hope it keeps working this well, "pump" type products Arginine AKG and the like work well for me too when I first start them after some time off but the effects die quick. If Beta-Alanine doesnt do this, it will be a new staple for me.
What are you taking it with? 50 lbs is pretty outrageous, congrats.
 
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HaHa! These things take some time to get dialed in but I assume one of the two will be 100% ready in about 30-45days. ;) Flavoring is a b1tch so I don't think there is a chance of them being released at the same time but we'll see. We are pacing ourselves....lol
okay okay :)

I will be your guinea pig of flavor testing if you need one...i hope you know this. I've been dying to ditch the Xtend so bad that i'm itching (in the back of my throat ;)) for this product to be mine!!
 
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I started taking Carnage on Tuesday and noticed immediate strength increase. This has been my first time using Beta-Alanine at any serious dose. Im impressed. Squatted today, and was WAY up in weight, hard to describe the effects, I would equate it to less pain at that last rep threshold, enabling me to push harder.

I added another 50 pounds to what I usually work with. Thats unheard of for me. I hope it keeps working this well, "pump" type products Arginine AKG and the like work well for me too when I first start them after some time off but the effects die quick. If Beta-Alanine doesnt do this, it will be a new staple for me.
Wow, great increase on the squat! I find that I react to BA the best after about 20 days so you should have good things coming ;)
 
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Wow, great increase on the squat! I find that I react to BA the best after about 20 days so you should have good things coming ;)
Speaking of good things coming, I got my order today. I really like how you're forever hittin me up with something..."more" :)
 

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alright well after these suggestions i'll go ahead and get everyones recommendation and just try em out for myself.
 
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What are you taking it with? 50 lbs is pretty outrageous, congrats.
Im still in shock myself. I use a bunch of stuff, but the only thing Ive added in some time was the Carnage, which I began on Tuesday (my leg workout was on Friday) and Hardcore Shred XS which I began the same day, and it has replaced Basic Cuts as my pre-workout energy booster.

Just for reference I use:

Pre-workout : 2 caps Hardcore Shred XS, 3 caps RPM, 3 caps Carnage, 4 caps BluePrint, and one scoop stim-free Blue Raz Ragnarok.

General health : CL's Orange Triad multi, EGCg, fish oil, magnesium, zinc.

Protein : Ergopharm IGF-pro, Body Fortress Whey

BCAA's: Xtend Lemonade

I also started Napalm on tuesday.

Im planning on taking a break from the RPM and Blueprint soon, gonna run Citruvol and CordygenV02!!!!

Anyway, it has to be attributed to the Beta-Alanine, and I hope it works like this permanently!!!!:woohoo:
 
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haha well congrats. Thats quite an outrageous stack, but if it works..then awesome. I loved RPM for the 18 days I had it and I can imagine mixed with Ragnarok its something fierce! I use stim free warrior melon, haha.
 
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haha well congrats. Thats quite an outrageous stack, but if it works..then awesome. I loved RPM for the 18 days I had it and I can imagine mixed with Ragnarok its something fierce! I use stim free warrior melon, haha.
Outrageous how? Am I using products that contradict each other? Or is it the sheer amount of stuff Im taking (lol) which even suprises me. Feedback, feedback, feedback...
 
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oh no no....I just meant I couldn't picture taking that much stuff around the same time of each other, haha. If it works that's awesome. Do it up brotha!
 
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Oh ok. Yeah, Ive had some good fortune this year as far as money is concerned so I went a little nuts on supps. The ironic thing is, the past 4 months (while going from 5'5", 162 %18 bf to 148 %13 bf all the while making strength increases) have been some of the most successful for me as far as bodybuilding goals are concerned. Taking 12 multi-colored pills and a scoop of rag before every workout seems like a lot but man do I feel good in the gym!!!

I am going to cut it down a bit soon, though.
 
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Hey man as long as you're feelin good and doin good, why not keep it goin?

Today I took rag/cordy vo2/carnage/shred xs hardcore before lifting. It was awesome!! :)
 
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MST supps are a cut above for sure! That Hardcore Shred XS (2 caps)/ Carnage (3 caps) pre-workout combo is a powerhouse!

Im beginning to think too that the rest I took on Thursday, the day before my epic leg workout, contributed a lot, considering I havent not trained on a weekday in at least 4 months. Another weird factor is no soreness from that workout.

Im starting to believe Ive tapped all reserves as far as training is concerned. Im just too dam stoked and making progress to back off, but I will take a couple days off, then see what happens. Maybe I will just live on Chipotle's steak fajita burritos for the next few days (hold the cheese and sour cream please)!
 
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never been to chipotle's but i did go to mcdonald's for lunch yesterday. i hadn't cheated in two weeks and i needed something good. had a southwest chicken sandwich, mcchicken, double cheeseburger (plain), and a big mac! delicious! :dance:
 
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never been to chipotle's but i did go to mcdonald's for lunch yesterday. i hadn't cheated in two weeks and i needed something good. had a southwest chicken sandwich, mcchicken, double cheeseburger (plain), and a big mac! delicious! :dance:
holy crap...that's like a cheat month!
 
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okay okay :)

I will be your guinea pig of flavor testing if you need one...i hope you know this. I've been dying to ditch the Xtend so bad that i'm itching (in the back of my throat ;)) for this product to be mine!!
You get yours after me LOL

Hey welcome to the crew!
 
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You get yours after me LOL

Hey welcome to the crew!
Thanks Buddy :). I don't think anyone has really noticed that I changed my avi yet, haha. I appreciate it though...your message over in the other planet made me feel really welcomed.
 
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how would Rag caff free go for a longer distance runner stacked with v02 and cit vol ultra and carnage?or would i be better off using Cre-02. Im not looking to put on weight at all, if any, lose a few. Just unsure because i know Rag has Cre mono in it
 
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I love Cre-02....so much. Honestly I personally felt that before performance sports (for me it's tennis, softball, and hockey) that Cre-02 and v02 Ultra was perfect for me. RagNOrok, Nitroceps, and Citruvol all give me too much of a pump to handle during those types of sports.
 
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I make sure to take my Carnage no matter what. At least 3 caps on non training day and 3 before my work out and 3 after. Normally I take Cordygen 5 and Ultra before my first workout (25 mile easy bike ride) in the morning and then finish it with Carnage then another dose of Carnage before a hard work out (25 bike ride) in the afternoon. I take the Cre-02 a couple hours after lunch. Depending on your diet Athlytes can be a must. I'm finding that as an endurance athlete the Rag is best saved for off days or when you are not competing against others. It tends to leave my muscles feeling full and harder to move after awhile. Not sure why. I just maybe going out to hard from the start but I do think it helps in the long run.
 
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I make sure to take my Carnage no matter what. At least 3 caps on non training day and 3 before my work out and 3 after. Normally I take Cordygen 5 and Ultra before my first workout (25 mile easy bike ride) in the morning and then finish it with Carnage then another dose of Carnage before a hard work out (25 bike ride) in the afternoon. I take the Cre-02 a couple hours after lunch. Depending on your diet Athlytes can be a must. I'm finding that as an endurance athlete the Rag is best saved for off days or when you are not competing against others. It tends to leave my muscles feeling full and harder to move after awhile. Not sure why. I just maybe going out to hard from the start but I do think it helps in the long run.
the rag help boost NO, which is causing vasodilation of the muscles, so they are swelling up, and this is the feeling you are experiencing.
for a bb-er or similar, this is a very desired effect
 
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I am stoked! Today I got Nitroceps in the mail. I almost forgot how good that is. I just need Cordygen 5 and that's one hell of an endurance stack right thurrrr. ;)
 
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I am stoked! Today I got Nitroceps in the mail. I almost forgot how good that is. I just need Cordygen 5 and that's one hell of an endurance stack right thurrrr. ;)
holy crap bro, haven't seen you in forever....hope all is well!!
 
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What it 'Deuce'? haha. All is doing very well thus far, thanks Deuce! ;) I'm recomping AGAIN and as of now I'm under 10% bodyfat at 215lbs and slowly working to add mass whilst dropping some more bodyfat. It's a pain in the cashews. How've you been? I'm glad you're still with MST. I hope the company is still going strong and working on some new products. MST is too solid of a company and have always made effective, natural, health conscious and ergogenic products. So... any new products on the way? I hope you guys keep producing more Nitroceps.
 
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What it 'Deuce'? haha. All is doing very well thus far, thanks Deuce! ;) I'm recomping AGAIN and as of now I'm under 10% bodyfat at 215lbs and slowly working to add mass whilst dropping some more bodyfat. It's a pain in the cashews. How've you been? I'm glad you're still with MST. I hope the company is still going strong and working on some new products. MST is too solid of a company and have always made effective, natural, health conscious and ergogenic products. So... any new products on the way? I hope you guys keep producing more Nitroceps.
yeah there are a few in the works right now that should be done pretty soon. We've also ramped up advertising in certain outlets that has made the warehouse super busy so thats also a bonus :). Business is never frowned upon eh? lol
 
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What's good, Ryan? Most of the members that are on here I haven't really seen before. How's your training?
 
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Reunion time up in here :D

what's the good word fellas? Chuck, how are the twins doing??? I bet they're getting big!!

Kyle, good to have some familiar faces on here...so many of the old homies are gone.
 
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Reunion time up in here :D

what's the good word fellas? Chuck, how are the twins doing??? I bet they're getting big!!

Kyle, good to have some familiar faces on here...so many of the old homies are gone.
hahah haven't seen YOU in a while either! the boys just turned 2 last month and the baby turned 1 a few days ago. Hectic as usual, but they're doing great! How have you been?!
 
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hahah haven't seen YOU in a while either! the boys just turned 2 last month and the baby turned 1 a few days ago. Hectic as usual, but they're doing great! How have you been?!
WOW, I can't believe the twins are 2 already!!! Two year old twin boys...you have any hair left ? :p

things are good, traveling all the time tho...still going back and forth to China on a regular basis! think I've done 100k miles this year, so far. it's exciting, but exhausting!!! and, I'm really struggling to maintain my physique with the constant travel, and constant change in diet...eating healthy (by my standards) in China is CHALLENGING!!! Everything there is starch, sugar, fat...getting complex carbs is impossible, getting substantial protein is tough too.

Rant over :)
 
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Likewise B-Natty. Things are good. Starting to reach some goals again and get more cut once again (Thank God) and life is going in a direction that is decent. This is like a reunion in here!

Congrats on the twins birthdays. It's definitely a priviledge!
 
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WOW, I can't believe the twins are 2 already!!! Two year old twin boys...you have any hair left ? :p

things are good, traveling all the time tho...still going back and forth to China on a regular basis! think I've done 100k miles this year, so far. it's exciting, but exhausting!!! and, I'm really struggling to maintain my physique with the constant travel, and constant change in diet...eating healthy (by my standards) in China is CHALLENGING!!! Everything there is starch, sugar, fat...getting complex carbs is impossible, getting substantial protein is tough too.

Rant over :)
Even though i'm sure thats taxing on your body and your wallet, i'm super envious man. I've always wanted to go to China, Japan, and Okinawa. Im very into Asian culture and true Asian food (even though it's tough on the physique as you said). I'm glad you're still finding excitement in it though!

As far as my hair goes lol, I was losing it already....it's just on the end of the tailspin now. I just roll over my whole head with a #2 setting on the clippers and call it a day at this point, haha. The baby girl just turned 1 this past week too, so it's really just been all run, no rest. I took a position at a very very busy place as their Executive Chef so that's been tough also. Not seeing the family as much, all the extra hours, and the missed workouts....it's been tough. Gotta make the bucks though!
 
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