MST Cordygen5 write-up

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  1. Hello folks,

    A few years ago I took Cordygen 5, and after a few days of taking it the difference was felt for my cardio-vascular system. I used to do an interval training session on a stationary bike that went 30 secs at Level 10 or higher and trying to maintain 100+rpm and 30 seconds at low resistance and relaxed pedaling for recovery. I noticed that I wasn't as drained at the end. I also had a relative VO2 max test where it gave a result that is higher then when not taking Cordygen 5 (60 vs 40). So the impact was definitely felt by me. Recently I ordered several bottles from MST.

    But every time I start taking them now, I feeling nausea and its killing my appetite. Yesterday for example, after getting up at 6am, I didn't eat anything until about 2pm and all it was, was a snack mix (raising + peanuts + dried bananas), only about 100 calories.

    Has anyone else experienced something like that? Is there something that could be done to eliminate the nausea?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by skhara View Post
    Hello folks,

    A few years ago I took Cordygen 5, and after a few days of taking it the difference was felt for my cardio-vascular system. I used to do an interval training session on a stationary bike that went 30 secs at Level 10 or higher and trying to maintain 100+rpm and 30 seconds at low resistance and relaxed pedaling for recovery. I noticed that I wasn't as drained at the end. I also had a relative VO2 max test where it gave a result that is higher then when not taking Cordygen 5 (60 vs 40). So the impact was definitely felt by me. Recently I ordered several bottles from MST.

    But every time I start taking them now, I feeling nausea and its killing my appetite. Yesterday for example, after getting up at 6am, I didn't eat anything until about 2pm and all it was, was a snack mix (raising + peanuts + dried bananas), only about 100 calories.

    Has anyone else experienced something like that? Is there something that could be done to eliminate the nausea?
    I'm happy to see that Cordygen 5 gave you tremendous results. I love MST's Cordygen products, myself.

    With your hunger situation, I would say that the Cordy 5 would be the least likely thing to give you stomach issues as I believe it's enteric coated, which will allow 1.5-2 hours until the caplet can be assimilated. This would have the contents of the caplet left intact, until it got out of the stomach and into the small intestine.

    I've tried intermitten fasting and ate between 1pm and 9pm for my '8-hour window' and my body was just getting used to it. When I eat earlier and stop eating around 7, my body will be hungry for breakfast. When I eat late, I won't have that same urge to eat something. If you're taking stims at all or you're not getting proper sleep or proper daylight, your eating schedule will be kinda mashed up.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by skhara View Post
    Hello folks,

    A few years ago I took Cordygen 5, and after a few days of taking it the difference was felt for my cardio-vascular system. I used to do an interval training session on a stationary bike that went 30 secs at Level 10 or higher and trying to maintain 100+rpm and 30 seconds at low resistance and relaxed pedaling for recovery. I noticed that I wasn't as drained at the end. I also had a relative VO2 max test where it gave a result that is higher then when not taking Cordygen 5 (60 vs 40). So the impact was definitely felt by me. Recently I ordered several bottles from MST.

    But every time I start taking them now, I feeling nausea and its killing my appetite. Yesterday for example, after getting up at 6am, I didn't eat anything until about 2pm and all it was, was a snack mix (raising + peanuts + dried bananas), only about 100 calories.

    Has anyone else experienced something like that? Is there something that could be done to eliminate the nausea?
    The quote below is from the OP. I'm assuming a Die-Off sympton could also be nausea.

    Q: Does Cordygen5 have any negative side effects?

    A: Technically, NO! Cordyceps is very anti fungal and anti microbial. People with candida overgrowth will find that cordyceps will kill off candida and cause die off symptoms. These die off symptoms usually manifest as loose stool or diarrhea with a mild headache. If you experience these symptoms while taking cordyceps it’s a sign of an underlying but easily manageable candida problem. We suggest discontinuing the Cordygen5 and undergoing a candida cleanse before resuming.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Jag View Post
    The quote below is from the OP. I'm assuming a Die-Off sympton could also be nausea.

    Q: Does Cordygen5 have any negative side effects?

    A: Technically, NO! Cordyceps is very anti fungal and anti microbial. People with candida overgrowth will find that cordyceps will kill off candida and cause die off symptoms. These die off symptoms usually manifest as loose stool or diarrhea with a mild headache. If you experience these symptoms while taking cordyceps itís a sign of an underlying but easily manageable candida problem. We suggest discontinuing the Cordygen5 and undergoing a candida cleanse before resuming.
    Good call.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Jag View Post
    These die off symptoms usually manifest as loose stool or diarrhea with a mild headache. If you experience these symptoms while taking cordyceps it’s a sign of an underlying but easily manageable candida problem. We suggest discontinuing the Cordygen5 and undergoing a candida cleanse before resuming.

    Well I definitely have the diarrhea and loose stool problem. How is a candida cleanse done? Thanks for the info.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by skhara View Post
    Well I definitely have the diarrhea and loose stool problem. How is a candida cleanse done? Thanks for the info.
    I googled: "How is a candida cleanse done" and here's one of the results:
    http://www.i-amperfectlyhealthy.com/...FQq0nQodGhMARQ
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  7. Yeah I did a google search too and bought a product. Honestly, I would not have thought I have anything like that. I generally eat pretty clean, no junk food at all. But we'll see.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by skhara View Post
    Yeah I did a google search too and bought a product. Honestly, I would not have thought I have anything like that. I generally eat pretty clean, no junk food at all. But we'll see.
    No doubt, skhara. Food responsiveness is very delicate with many individuals and the way we respond to food can change. I am saving up money for some major testing soon. At almost 30 years old, I've spent a great deal eating too many bad foods with harmful compounds and have experimented with too many harmful substances. I'd like to know as much as I can as far as full panel thyroid, sex hormone levels, coq10 levels, extensive allergen test, etc. etc. etc.

    I can tell from experience that I don't do well with gluten, nor do I do well with oats, etc., but it's good to know what exactly is up.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Any need to cycle as to allow receptors to heal?
    Actually cordyceps itself heals receptors. Upregulation of the dopamine/noradrenalin/muscarinic acetylcholine system. Heals the adrenals and repairs the HPA axis. Cordygen5 is hands down one of the best products I've used.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by freqfly View Post
    Actually cordyceps itself heals receptors. Upregulation of the dopamine/noradrenalin/muscarinic acetylcholine system. Heals the adrenals and repairs the HPA axis. Cordygen5 is hands down one of the best products I've used.
    Your post really got me curious so i did a little searching and found some amazing benefits of Cordyceps. Below is just a little relating to a kidney/liver issue i had a year or so ago.

    Medical values of cordyceps sinensis for CKD
    1. It has been found that cordyceps sinensis can alleviate renal damages in chronic kidney disease and improve kidney functions as well as reducing renal toxicities of toxic substances. All kidney disease patients can have it and it can help regulate renal disorders and relieve renal damages.

    2. Besides benefits to kidneys, cordyceps sinensis can do a lot of goods to other internal organs and systems such as the heart, liver, respiratory system, hematopoietic system, etc. For CKD patients, they usually suffer from fatigue and arrhythmia due to high level of blood potassium. Cordyceps sinensis can reduce oxygen consumption in the heart and relieve arrhythmia. It can also improve cell energy and alleviate fatigue.

    3. Cordyceps sinensis can lower cholesterol and triglyceride in the blood and increase favorable high-density lipoprotein. This can help reduce the risk of atherosclerosis and control high blood pressure which is a major aggravating factor for CKD patients.

    4. What is more important, cordyceps sinensis can regulate immune disorders and improve immunity. From the perspective of immunology, more than 95% kidney diseases are caused by immune disorders and immune dysfunctions. Cordyceps sinensis can make the immune system at its best---strengthening the functions of some immune cells and inactivating the functions of some others. Patients' immune system will become healthier and they will become stronger to resist various viruses and infections. This can also help prevent the formation of tumors.

    In addition, cordyceps sinensis have the functions of adjusting central nervous system and sexual functions as well as direct effects on treating viruses.
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  11. I stopped taking cordyceps and the nausea went away on the second day after I stopped taking them. Sure would like to start again.

    Here is some additional stuff I found on cordyceps side effects:

    Cordyceps may cause dry mouth, nausea, loss of appetite, diarrhea, or dizziness. Due to the increasing popularity of Cordyceps sinesis, some supplements have been adulterated; some manufacturers substitute other species of cordyceps. The safety of these supplements is not known.
    Here is an interesting piece of information:
    We must remember that the ingredients of Cordyceps are fungi and animal. Such a combination is unknown in any other source. The immune system thus encounters a combination unknown to it. The immune system will adapt in the process of immuno-modulation and attack some cells while stimulating others.
    ^^^ I wonder if the above has something to do with my symptoms. Its obvious to me that this product is beneficial and I'd like to take it. Besides have spent a good deal of cash for several bottles, but I can't feel like crap all day, not want to eat anything, and have liquid come out of my ass.

    Wonder if maybe I should start taking 1 pill a day instead of 3 and then eventually try to build up to 3 if one doesn't mess me up to much.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by skhara View Post
    I stopped taking cordyceps and the nausea went away on the second day after I stopped taking them. Sure would like to start again.

    Here is some additional stuff I found on cordyceps side effects:

    Here is an interesting piece of information:


    ^^^ I wonder if the above has something to do with my symptoms. Its obvious to me that this product is beneficial and I'd like to take it. Besides have spent a good deal of cash for several bottles, but I can't feel like crap all day, not want to eat anything, and have liquid come out of my ass.

    Wonder if maybe I should start taking 1 pill a day instead of 3 and then eventually try to build up to 3 if one doesn't mess me up to much.
    For me personally, many of the listed symptoms disappeared after prolonged use of Cordygen5 (1-2 straight months). Being an immune system stimulator and HPA axis modulator, it will take some time for your system to adapt to it and get used to it, afterwards most symptoms if not all should start fading away and you can keep getting all of the positive benefits cordyceps has to offer.

  13. ^^^
    Well I am thinking that maybe this will happen, but I definitely don't want to have diareah for a month . I'll try this cleanse thing and then start taking maybe 1 pill a day instead of 3 and see I how tolerate.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by skhara View Post
    ^^^
    Well I am thinking that maybe this will happen, but I definitely don't want to have diareah for a month . I'll try this cleanse thing and then start taking maybe 1 pill a day instead of 3 and see I how tolerate.
    I read a similiar thing about Olive Leaf Extract. It was a while back but it mentioned about it being used to eliminate harmful toxins and to START SLOWLY because if there is too many toxins being released at once you can actually get sicker before you get better.

    The toxins have to come out somewhere so i think you may be on the right track now with the cleanse and then starting again at the bare minimum dose.

  15. you need to run a candida cleanse after long periods of time using any cordyceps product. It doesn't happen as quickly with a Cordygen product because of the superior grade that we are talking about, but regardless a cleanse of some sort needs to be done.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    you need to run a candida cleanse after long periods of time using any cordyceps product. It doesn't happen as quickly with a Cordygen product because of the superior grade that we are talking about, but regardless a cleanse of some sort needs to be done.
    Is it because of the "die-off" effect caused by the "anti-parasitic" action of cordyceps?




    Quote Originally Posted by Jag
    I read a similiar thing about Olive Leaf Extract. It was a while back but it mentioned about it being used to eliminate harmful toxins and to START SLOWLY because if there is too many toxins being released at once you can actually get sicker before you get better.

    The toxins have to come out somewhere so i think you may be on the right track now with the cleanse and then starting again at the bare minimum dose.
    You know I got curious as a result of your post about Olive Leaf Extract and while reading about these same side-effects that you mention, one article states that Vitamin-C, psyllium, and bentonite products will help with getting rid of the toxic waste caused by "die-off".
  

  
 

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