Don't wanna be flamed or bashed cause i love MST, i regularly pimp their products to my friends. I religiously take MycoGreen on my 5th bottle now, MVP is a great multi vitamin, Somnidren GH was great to me and liking my first impressions of Enzy-M. But just finishing up my bottle of NitroCeps was looking forward to a new NO product it just finished flat to me. The pumps were okay and everything else about it was just okay kinda sad that it fell short for me. Granted won't discourage me from trying future products of your guys.