Difference between the old and new Somnidren-GH?

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I heard more L-dopa, can you give the full details.

As well as if its like 10percent better than the old formula, i know its mainly similar though.

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I heard more L-dopa, can you give the full details.

As well as if its like 10percent better than the old formula, i know its mainly similar though.

Thanks.
The three main differences are: 1) We upgraded to a 99% L-Dopa Mucuna 2) We made it taste better and 3) We took care of most of the hygroscopic characteristics so most of the clumping in high humidity areas is gone. I think most will find it works much better than the older stuff.

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The three main differences are: 1) We upgraded to a 99% L-Dopa Mucuna 2) We made it taste better and 3) We took care of most of the hygroscopic characteristics so most of the clumping in high humidity areas is gone. I think most will find it works much better than the older stuff.

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how can you know ul get the new version?
 
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how can you know ul get the new version?
Buy it directly from us or over at NutraPlanet to be sure. Over the next 2-3 weeks it will filter into all of the other retailers.

The one way to know the new stuff on a shelf is that it has the new style label and is in a larger container than before.
 

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The three main differences are: 1) We upgraded to a 99% L-Dopa Mucuna 2) We made it taste better and 3) We took care of most of the hygroscopic characteristics so most of the clumping in high humidity areas is gone. I think most will find it works much better than the older stuff.

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I loved the bitterness of old version. New version is smoother. :damnit1:
 
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So the Somidren at Nutraplanet is the new version for sure? Sorry if question is redundant, that is what I think you guys were implying just making sure. Thanks.
 
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So the Somidren at Nutraplanet is the new version for sure? Sorry if question is redundant, that is what I think you guys were implying just making sure. Thanks.
Yep, it is the new stuff. At least that is what we have been shipping to them lately.
 
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i bought the somnidren/zmk stack awhile back and got the best sleep ever from an otc product. i got picked to log a jug of the new formula, if it is even better than the old formula i can't wait to try it.:sleeping:
 
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It's definitely better than the old, and in a bigger tub so access to the product is a bit easier. The smaller tub made it a little harder for me to get to the product. The clumping issue is also laid to rest as well which is nice.
 
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It's definitely better than the old, and in a bigger tub so access to the product is a bit easier. The smaller tub made it a little harder for me to get to the product. The clumping issue is also laid to rest as well which is nice.
i hope i feel the same about it being better-i had really good results on the old.
i can't remember clumping being that big of an issue-doesn't matter, i am excited to get my hands on it and get started.:sleeping::sleeping:
 
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If you like sublingual, do half doses to get it absorbed. There is a little more powder in this tub it seems, and the powder is more fine than before. This powder is more like garlic powder (thin, not floury) the other was more like a brown sugar type (imo). I did a full scoop and regretted it last night. The taste is slightly more citrus-y this time around also.
 
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If you like sublingual, do half doses to get it absorbed. There is a little more powder in this tub it seems, and the powder is more fine than before. This powder is more like garlic powder (thin, not floury) the other was more like a brown sugar type (imo). I did a full scoop and regretted it last night. The taste is slightly more citrus-y this time around also.
thanks for the tips. that is how i will do it then!
if it is ok for purposes of my log, i would like to try 1/2 scoop pre workout with 2 oep. i think the extra boost in hgh will be very beneficial to my cut-down 9lbs so far-11 more to go.
but primarily it is the sleep aid in somnidren that i am looking for-i have had problems falling asleep since childhood.
 
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if it is ok for purposes of my log, i would like to try 1/2 scoop pre workout with 2 oep.
We've had loggers do very similar things in the past with great results. I personally also use it some of the time either pre w/o with a stim or a half scoop post w/o.
 

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Yo my tub just came in today ! Can't wait to see the results and thanks MST for the extra sample bottles haha time to grow with the GHSR stack !
 
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Yo my tub just came in today ! Can't wait to see the results and thanks MST for the extra sample bottles haha time to grow with the GHSR stack !
good luck-but i hate you!
f'ing hawaii-it is 18%f for a high here in indy. ugh.
 
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I didn't writeup the log, but that dosing sounds far to me.

Careful with too much stim when trying to spike gh levels.
so you think i ought to cut it down to 1 oep when i take som with it pre fasted cardio?
 
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We've had loggers do very similar things in the past with great results. I personally also use it some of the time either pre w/o with a stim or a half scoop post w/o.
sounds good, b says not to go heavy on stim with it pre cardio-so if i do 2 oep i might try it post instead. good ideas-keep em coming.
down 10lbs-10 more to go!
 
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if it is ok for purposes of my log, i would like to try 1/2 scoop pre workout with 2 oep....
Should be fine, if you can normally handle 2 OEP.
 
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whats oep btw?

If your body has adapted to the caffeine, fine, but if you create the potential for an insulin spike, then bye bye GH.

As for fasted cardio, GH is released in a fasted state, but cortisol would more than likely kill that. HOWEVER with your current anabolic state via injections, you may end up fine with fasted cardio. I still wouldn't do it though.
 
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whats oep btw?

If your body has adapted to the caffeine, fine, but if you create the potential for an insulin spike, then bye bye GH.

As for fasted cardio, GH is released in a fasted state, but cortisol would more than likely kill that. HOWEVER with your current anabolic state via injections, you may end up fine with fasted cardio. I still wouldn't do it though.
 
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whats oep btw?

If your body has adapted to the caffeine, fine, but if you create the potential for an insulin spike, then bye bye GH.

As for fasted cardio, GH is released in a fasted state, but cortisol would more than likely kill that. HOWEVER with your current anabolic state via injections, you may end up fine with fasted cardio. I still wouldn't do it though.
from all i have learned, 200mg weekly of test cyp should be enough to keep cortisol at bay. i am 11 days into my cut and it seems to be working-i think the somnidren will be a nice boost.
 
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Id try some somni in that mix for fasted cardio then
you bet! deuce said it was mailed fri or sat so it should be here tomorrow. was hoping it would come today but, oh well!:dunno:
 
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could have asked, I coulda mailed you a few days worth...
thanks, b. i appreciate the thought, but it's only a few days-no big deal. i just get impatient, lol. i get a plan in my head and it's hard to wait.:dunno:
btw-when you say sublingual you are talking the dry powder right?
 
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correct, dry powder.

I get impatient as well, see: swole stack updates
hahaha, i think it is a common trait, lol.
gotcha on the dry powder-you say to do half at a time?
 
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hahaha, i think it is a common trait, lol.
gotcha on the dry powder-you say to do half at a time?
a full scoop is a bit large of an amount of powder to wait to dissolve under your tongue at once ;). The new product definitely tastes better than the old though....so that was a nice taste to experience for me!

subblingual will hit you the hardest and fastest of all the options.
 

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Yooo just been on the GHSR stack for two days and so far its been off the chainn . This stuff hits me hard lol I'm out within 30minutes of takin it . First time I have ever tried sublingual too . This hits the system fast haha . But yo I was wondering if I can take 1/2 pre and 1/2 post then at night take 1 scoop with my zmk ? or is that too much ?
 
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Yooo just been on the GHSR stack for two days and so far its been off the chainn . This stuff hits me hard lol I'm out within 30minutes of takin it . First time I have ever tried sublingual too . This hits the system fast haha . But yo I was wondering if I can take 1/2 pre and 1/2 post then at night take 1 scoop with my zmk ? or is that too much ?
pick 1 either pre or post and see how it goes, maybe every now and then hit up both. i wouldn't do both regularly though-but that's just me. if it were me i would save that for a extra long cardio session.
 

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Aight thanks man so ima try 1/2 preworkout today and I can still take my full scoop before bed ?
 
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Aight thanks man so ima try 1/2 preworkout today and I can still take my full scoop before bed ?
should be fine-you will just go through it quicker this way, but it should be no problem. i am going to try it that way when i receive mine. i will be using a stim with it-it may make you drowsy during workout.
 
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Aight thanks man so ima try 1/2 preworkout today and I can still take my full scoop before bed ?
you'll want to use a little of a stim pre w/o with S-GH. If I didn't, i'd fall asleep on the bench. The mind to muscle connection on S-GH pre w/o is amazing though. Something definitely worth channeling.

I'd only use the S-GH 5 days a week and at 1 dose (maybe 1.5) a day. Up to you how and when you choose to use it.
 
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you'll want to use a little of a stim pre w/o with S-GH. If I didn't, i'd fall asleep on the bench. The mind to muscle connection on S-GH pre w/o is amazing though. Something definitely worth channeling.

I'd only use the S-GH 5 days a week and at 1 dose (maybe 1.5) a day. Up to you how and when you choose to use it.
words of wisdom-i am excited to start on s-gh. hopefully tomorrow.
 
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if you do use somni post workout, wait 30min to drink your post workout shake/bcaas/etc. otherwise you blunt the extra gh release and waste the product
that is exactly why i won't be using post. i workout fasted and have been doing long cardio workouts, i drink a shake right after. if i use s-gh pre i will forgo the bcaa/eaa's i normally use intra.
 
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at that point if you normally use bcaa's intra, then continue to do so, as you already blunt a natural gh release, so continue using the bcaa's intra, just don't use em pwo if you are dosing the somni
 
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at that point if you normally use bcaa's intra, then continue to do so, as you already blunt a natural gh release, so continue using the bcaa's intra, just don't use em pwo if you are dosing the somni
i don't want to jeopardize the gh release-on days i take s-gh pre i won't take the bcaa's. will limit it to 2xweekly, and only half dose.
 
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that is exactly why i won't be using post. i workout fasted and have been doing long cardio workouts, i drink a shake right after. if i use s-gh pre i will forgo the bcaa/eaa's i normally use intra.
BigT, do you work out at the same time every day? Just curious as I always strive for a fasted workout as well but I'm not a morning person at all.
 
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BigT, do you work out at the same time every day? Just curious as I always strive for a fasted workout as well but I'm not a morning person at all.
i work nights, sometimes i take a short nap after work sometimes i shower and head straight for gym. today i came home from work, showered and had a 3 scoop shake of protein and took a nap until mail came around 9:30. took 2 oep and put little over half a scoop of s-gh under tongue. headed for gym, by the time i got there i was feeling it-let me say that the stim effect of oep combined with the relaxing/calming effect of s-gh is unreal. i had a fantastic hour and 20 minute cardio workout, and i am still felling tingling. fantastic-i am really digging the s-gh already. i will take another 1/2 scoop in about an hour and see if i can get some quality sleep in for a change.
 

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I love the new formula, the higher concentration of l-dopa makes all the difference. I always wake up refreshed and "ready to go", it leans me out, and no DOMS even after a hard - heavy workout. If the price ever drops to $20 I'm stocking up. :popcorn:
 

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yo i was wondering if my S-GH is still good because its super clumpy i think its from the humidity out here in hawaii cause the same happen with my jack3d . is it okay to still take it ? i ordered it about a week ago . its a great product i would hate to throw it all away .
 

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