- 06-25-2008, 09:01 AM
I take my shots on monday and thursday
and was doing HCG 250 on s,wed armidex .25 m,w,f
results were 1080 e2 30
I change protocol and went to 100ius hcg days inbetween shots and testosterone dropped to 793 could this because that my body response really well to hcg and that I could be more secondary then primary?
- 06-25-2008, 11:55 AM
Guys are reporting that E3D schedule is best for HCG mono-theraphy.
Keep your average weekly T dose but change to E3D.
Day#1 T shot
Day#2 nothing (or Arimidex)
Day#3 (500, 750, 1000)iu HCG
Retest within 4 weeks, reduce T dose first (if required)
Draw blood 48 hrs after T shot.
Max Arimidex dose 2mg/week (divided)
Max HCG dose limited by:
E2 raise beyond control provided by 2 mg Arimidex
excessive BioAvailableTestosterone (BAT).
Taper testosterone shots down to zero if BAT allows.
(blood drawn in the morning of day#3)
06-26-2008, 02:29 AM
Shawn, your numbers look pretty similar to mine before going on hCG monotherapy. I think you are a good candidate. If you respond like I do, you can come off Test, and go directly to hCG mono, at 1000 IUs E3Ds, without a hitch. You may need to up the adex dose as I believe hCG is more likely to result in aromotaisation of T. When I was taking 1500 IUs E3D, with .3 Adex EOD, my E2 climbed to 90, and my TT was 1400. I then dropped my hCG to 1000 IUs, and increased Adex to .6 EOD. New numbers await.
06-26-2008, 09:28 AM
06-26-2008, 04:32 PM
but in the mean time;
from discussions with colkurtz_spf
his Cenegenic doc recomends hcg dosing 2x/week, (I think allways in the evenings).
So you have 3 days followed by 4 days.
Supposedly the 4 days hiatus stimulates body's own responses.
That was his doc first choice.
Eventually colkurtz_spf and jinxie decided on E3D system,
make them feel better overall.
This is in contrast to E2D or even ED that would seems as most beneficial.
Guess, as usual, have to try and see what works.
Guessing again, ED system should have minimum E2 raise due to the same average weekly dose.
06-26-2008, 08:56 PM
Incidentally, to figure out the 2/16 ratio must I go through Rhein? My insurance is such a pain in the ass for anything other than local labs -- Quest and Labcorp, or in-house at hospitals. I'd like to resolve this issue to determine whether I need to take DIM, on top of the Adex.
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