ZMA that works?
- 06-02-2008, 04:13 AM
ZMA that works?
I'm looking for a brand of ZMA that garuanteed works. I used to buy one from a local chain of health stores, but due to not many people buying it they stopped sales of this product. After that I went on another ZMA product, which unfortunately doesn't work, i.e. I don't get the deep sleep benefits from it (although I might get the minerals in it).
Is there a brand which has the garuanteed sleep benefits so I feel great when waking up? Now Foods a good brand or some others?
- 06-02-2008, 04:41 AM
Maybe ZMA doesn't work for you ? I had minor succes with ZMA by Optimum Nutrition. Check it out.
- 06-02-2008, 05:38 AM
Go for Melatonin. NP stocks it (Optimum Nutrition). Combine it with any of NP's ZMAs and you'll be in the land of nod before your head hits the pillow
06-02-2008, 06:53 AM
06-02-2008, 06:54 AM
06-02-2008, 07:53 AM
It certainly does! Add 50mg of diphenhydramine for a coma
06-02-2008, 07:53 AM
Take both ZMA and melatonin.
06-02-2008, 08:23 AM
Melatonin is powerful, although I'm still uneasy about long-term supplementation on it since it is a hormone and it may affect our body in a way we don't intend.
I would say use ZMA nightly, and Melatonin for those days when you've got alot on your mind. Tryptophan may be of interest to you, and a combo can be had at http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...-100-caps.html .
Nimbus also has a product (Abyss) that combines ZMA and a few other things. But things can quickly get expensive, it depends how much you want to spend on trying to improve your sleep. A cheap effective method is learning some deep breathing techniques.
06-02-2008, 08:56 AM
Im just looking for only zma which is cheap but does work, this i can buy one year supply at pretty economic.
06-02-2008, 12:25 PM
are there any preferred forms of zinc and magnesium in terms of bio-availability?
06-02-2008, 12:29 PM
I use NOW foods ZMA religously and YES it works
06-02-2008, 01:54 PM
I use ZMK from MST.
Seems to work great for me and it's probably the most bio-available and complete mineral source.
Melatonin on the other hand does nothing for me.
ZMA for some people keeps them awake at night, for some reason. I think it's all up to the user and how they react.
06-02-2008, 03:38 PM
06-02-2008, 03:50 PM
06-03-2008, 04:30 PM
ZMK is the most bio-available source for zinc/mag/b6 (p5p) product and it includes important minerals vital for recovery in chelated form with a wealth of trace components. Best ZMA type product and so much more AND it's inexpensive. Might as well upgrade your multi as well with the MVP-365/ZMK combo.
Freedom means nothing here.
06-04-2008, 10:07 AM
06-04-2008, 10:20 AM
Also, if people are looking for an alternate Zinc product to ZMK, make sure it's got Zinc Picolinate, but tbh I haven't seen a better product than ZMK. It's more complete than any I've seen.
06-04-2008, 03:48 PM
is Zinc Picolinate more bio-available than opti l-zinc?
06-04-2008, 10:01 PM
Now's Opti L-Zinc has Zinc Monomethionine, I've heard it's very bioavailable but picolinate has scientific backing on it as well. I think picolinate is at least as available as monemethionine.
Google "A better alternative to ZMA: Zinc Picolinate" and there's a pretty good thread on BB.com about it.
edit: actually I just read Opti Zinc is probably the best form out there now.
06-04-2008, 10:56 PM
06-04-2008, 11:24 PM
Yeah it does, but I like to take more than that.
It's also nothing comparable to the mineral blend in ZMK.
I normally take 2 adam's and 5 ZMK's ed.
Probably not needed for most people but I was pretty deficient for a while before supplementing.
06-05-2008, 12:01 AM
melatonin is a wonderful thing. but it is the perfect example of less is more. if you take 3mg a day in about 3 days your receptors wont work as well. in studies the effective doses where .3mg. and at that dose, it wont be over doing it. i just take the 3mg pill and break it into little peices, each lasts almost a week, while every night once i fall asleep i stay asleep. (doesnt help me much with getting to sleep just staying asleep)
06-05-2008, 12:03 AM
i think im going to give zmk a try. it is inexpensive enough. i have heard contradicting things about zma (i beleive that was in regards to testosterone not sleep) the p5p(b6) is also an interest to me. as latley i have been reading more and more about it.
06-05-2008, 12:04 AM
06-05-2008, 12:25 AM
06-05-2008, 02:22 AM
I was just speaking with a doctor about some of the best/safest methods for lowering prolactin and I brought p5p up. It's only very mild for this use. The best way to lower prolactin, especially on a longterm basis, is to raise dopamine. People would have better luck supplementing with L-dopa (or even better, with l-deprenyl - but that's a drug). Not sure if that's what you were thinking of using it for.
06-05-2008, 03:57 AM
I just started ZMK and love it. My sleep is great but I don't seem to be sleeping for 8 hours. I've only been sleeping for 4-6 hours a night but wake up feeling great. I know this is probably bad as far as growing is concerned but I can't help but feel good, I even pop out of bed like a little kid. It's been awhile since I've taken a ZMA product and I remember having the same results with others in the past but not to this extent. Also, like others in the past my libido is going crazy but even more so than before.
ZMK is definitely a high quality product. 4 pills a day may be too much for consistent daily use and I might cut back a bit.
06-05-2008, 10:35 PM
ZMA is ZMA...I take (3) caps of SNAC ZMA plus (3) caps of ERGO 6-OXO every nite. You feel it in the morning.
3~5 gr. of melatonin on nights that I need a deep sleep also.
I'm in my 40's all...this combo seems to work great for me but might not for others.
06-05-2008, 10:44 PM
06-06-2008, 12:05 AM
Not entirely thats why i started this thread. I bought a good zma and slept insanely well and now im on a crappy brand.
Theoretically yeah its zinc magnesium and b6 all in the same forms, apparently some manufacturers don't make this **** in the right way. Good that its working for ya man!
06-06-2008, 05:35 PM
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