Varicocele Sufferers - How is everyone doing?
06-13-2008 05:23 PM
Yes .... The second one was concerned as I am about what you said about yours and sent me for an MRI and CAT scan .... Came back clear for me .... I remember something said about if it appears on the right instead of the left ....
06-13-2008 06:34 PM
Hmm, I'll have to get it checked out right away then.
06-14-2008 09:56 AM
Originally Posted by beckerj
After using androgel, how are your testes? Are they same in size before using androgel or changed in size. How about firmness?
06-16-2008 02:14 PM
No .... I have lost some size .... Not very dramatic from an observational point of view, and they are not as firm ....
I can't wait to see the new Endo at the end of the month ....
06-16-2008 02:15 PM
You gonna ask for HCG?
Originally Posted by beckerj
06-16-2008 03:11 PM
You know it buddy .... Not sure but i think the E2 is creeping up now .... past two days I have been on an emotional roller coaster ....
06-20-2008 10:22 AM
MKUltra - How's it going ?
06-20-2008 03:26 PM
I have not had any pain at all and I would say the veins are 90% gone two weeks post op.
Libido was up up up the first week, but has since leveled off, I have yet to get blood work. The incisions on my abdomen are still healing as well.
06-20-2008 03:41 PM
Good .... Sounds like my results as well .... Although I had a 75% reduction .... I still have varicocele 25% in my left and 100% reduction in my right ....
First week to two weeks I also had a spike in libido .... Then it leveled off and dropped ....
How old are ya ?
06-20-2008 03:52 PM
im 22. Im hoping for it to come back if I just stay off of everything for awhile. I was only on androgel for 3 months before the surgery and have not continued it afterward.
The weird thing was as my right testicle got smaller from the androgel the left one (the one with the varicocele) stayed the same, maybe even got a little larger. My theory is that it had backed up hormones that were all released quickly in the first week, so it was like a jump start.
Since stopping the androgel I havent felt like crap yet, so I think my levels may be getting more stable, however T is definately not as high as when on androgel. I will get blood work in the near future to confirm .
06-20-2008 04:03 PM
Well being 22 I think will help .... I am 36 .... I was hoping against hope that it would come back for me as well .... The studies for the surgery and the kick back of T were done with younger guys .... So you do have that going for you ....
Might right testicle is also smaller and the left one is not seeming to get smaller .... I have been on the Androgel for 2 1/2 months with 2 weeks off as I ran out .... I was fine till I ran out .... Then I went to hell .... I am slowly coming back, but it is a hard road ....
So how was your ED if you had it while on the Androgel and when did you see an improvement .... I know you are younger than me, but want to get your input ....
I had my blood drawn today according to allthingsmale follow up testing .... Should know that by this coming Friday .... I am so interested in seeing what my numbers are .... I think my E2 has spiked .... And I am hoping that is the cause of my ED ....
06-20-2008 05:36 PM
i was on androgel 10g every day. Libido was strong, erections were strong. Right after the surgery I had really frequent erections, right now not so much, but I have a lot of other stress (work) factors right now, so its hard to judge. Also, my girlfriend is out of town.
From March 07 to March 08 I rarely had a solid erection, after I started the androgel, every girl I saw I got an erection, it was almost too much honestly.
I started taking letrozole last week .25 mg everyday to keep the rebound in check, I am estrogen prone, and tend to gain weight in my chest (puffy nips, pseudogyno) and stomach easily even though I only weigh 180 (Im 6') and 10% bf.
Have you tried clomid or HCG to help?
06-20-2008 05:50 PM
My Doc started me at 4 pumps a day and after 2 weeks crashed and I upped the dose to 6 .... Felt great actually .... Positive, random erections, and morning wood .... Ran out of the stuff and was off it for two weeks .... I am now at day 23 back at 6 pumps and not feeling the same .... Afraid of upping the dose as I don't want to run out ....
Tried to perform last night and anxiety grabbed me and woudn't let go .... If I do it myself or get it going first it seems okay ....
I have nolvadex and thinking maybe I should try it .... There again though afraid of messing things up .... I went to have labs drawn today and hoping they come back good ....
06-20-2008 06:13 PM
from what Ive heard (im not a doctor) but nolva is very selective with estrogen blocking, mainly to the breasts. Clomid can stimulate LH and block estrogen throughout the body increasing testosterone. Im in a believer in less is more, when Ive taken it in the past I took 50mg for a couple days and then dropped it down to 25mg.
If you did a slow enough taper down you could have a pretty smooth transition and may be able to keep ur levels up after coming off.
Have u tried high dosing tribulus? When I take over 1000mg at a time it really helps with the libido/ED. I dont think it does much for T, but it helped with sex. Ive heard good things about fenugreek but I haven't tried it yet.
06-21-2008 08:41 AM
Getting my embolization done on tues the 2nd of july. Was going to change it and have the varicocelectomy but I got the appointment in the meantime and figure I'll go with the embolization as I would have to wait a lot longer for the varicocelectomy.
I WANT A DECENT LIBIDO IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!!!!!!!!
Will keep you all posted on here and will look to get some bloodwork done too.
06-21-2008 12:56 PM
It has been 4 weeks since my surgery and nothing's changed - still no libido and no spontaneous erections. I think the varicocele got a little bit smaller but i'm not sure. Is that normal ? Should i wait more .... the doctor told me to go for a check up after 2 months but i'm loosing hope that i would get to how i was before.....
06-21-2008 05:14 PM
Okay how old are you remington ?
It was three months out my Doc wanted me back for a follow up ultrasound ....
I am 36 .... I am now on HRT .... 6 pumps a day .... Still need V for sex ... take 100MG .... A lot of that is nerve and confidence ... have a failure and it just rolls forward ....
I can say this ... you need wellbutrin .... or at least I did ... it made all the difference in the world ... but remember it is not in your head .... It is real .... it is a medical condition that is not recognized by the medical community .... Maybe after enough of us get to the Docs they will talk in meetings and conventions about their patients like us and take us seriously .... Of course maybe i am in a dream world .... but i HOPE ....
Also .... If you have to go to HRT it is not the worse thing that could happen .... My dad dropped dead of a Heart attack at 36 .... I am now 36 and if HRT is my price, I'll take it ....
And after you have been on HRT for a little bit you will feel more like you used to ....
06-21-2008 05:17 PM
I am hoping the new Endo will have a clue with HRT and set me up on the right course, which i hope includes HCG .... but we will have to wait and see .... I also can't wait to get my labs back to see where I am .... I think I need to have my dose of T upped again .... I did an extra two pumps yesterday and seem a bit more confident ....
Originally Posted by MkUltra
06-21-2008 07:57 PM
Originally Posted by beckerj
I have bilateral varicoceles. I don't have erection problems.The problem is i have strong erections and can't release easily. I am not on V and I am on depo-test for 1.5 month. I don't have fatigue anymore.But I do have cloudy vision sometimes in the day and constant headaches. My only conern and worry is the size of testes. How small will they become If I will be on depo-Test for life.They are already small because of sudden varicoceles. I don't understand why doctors don't think about sudden varicoceles or sudden shrinkage of testicles.
When i was not on Depo-Test I didnt have good erections. Now i have very good erections, That means erections are dependent on testosterone.Doctors unless you are planning for kids, you need go for HCG, otherwise they are not prescribing it. But they dont understand that we need to take care of our testes (its not becos of fertility issue)
Sometimes when varicoceles happen suddenly, nerve that relates to random erections become weak, so we dont get random erections.This is my assumption. I feel pretty bad and sad that at this age I have to be on HRT.
06-22-2008 01:26 AM
I'm 20 and i have never been on any hormones. I got the varicocele about 2 months ago so i don't think it had the time to lower my testosterone but it's somehow messing up other hormones because my problems are only sexual. It's really weird - how can i have ED and premature ejaculation (really premature!!) at the same time?
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