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what does these amounts mean for a 25 year old.. he is sending me to a endo now for my testostorne that came back 309
LH 1.9
FSH 3.6
Prolactin 8.9
Estrogens 31pg/ml
LH 1.9
FSH 3.6
Prolactin 8.9
Estrogens 31pg/ml
Next time post ranges and name of laboratory.what does these amounts mean for a 25 year old.. he is sending me to a endo now for my testostorne that came back 309
LH 1.9
FSH 3.6
Prolactin 8.9
Estrogens 31pg/ml
thanks for the info. the urgloist is sending me to a endo.. i dont think i had a good doctor b/c he was ready to write me a prescrib for testostrone and i told him i wanted to know what was wrong with me and just putting that in my system would be covering up whats really wrongNext time post ranges and name of laboratory.
309 is low in any book.
LH 1.9, assume at first that you are secondary
I suggest that you start with HCG only, at first.
If that would work, you will be ahead of the game.
You want to figure out largest possible dose of HCG that would not increase overly your estrodial.
Ideally you want to have E2 little below 29
while not using more than 2mg Arimidex a week, better if 1mg/week only.
That dose is somewhere around (1800 - 3500)iu/week
Need experimentation to figure it out.
Try
1000iu EOD (every other day) ----> 1000*7/2=3500iu/week
measure your T, E2 & DHT
use these tests at Quest Diagnostics.
Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
Estrogens, Fractionated, LC/MS/MS (36742X)
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
Dihydrotestosterone, Free, Serum (36168X)
Test every 6 weeks until you find where you are.
You may want to start with 750iu/shot, have to start somewhere and then keep adjusting.
After you good with HCG, you will see if you have enough of your own testosterone, if not, add T shots.
Goal is to have
BAT from 3/4 to a top of range
range (110-575)
you want to be no less than
110+3/4(575-110)=~460
and no more than 575
.
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Do not knock down you doc.thanks for the info. the urgloist is sending me to a endo.. i dont think i had a good doctor b/c he was ready to write me a prescrib for testostrone and i told him i wanted to know what was wrong with me and just putting that in my system would be covering up whats really wrong
nope i havent started..i did cut some fats out of my diet so i'm eating a tablespoon of peanut butter and some more good fats each day to see if that helpsWere you on a diet prior to your testing>
Hypocaloric diet can lower LH and thus lower T as well...
Mark
So far so good for me... clomid took my T from 265 to 755 in 2 mos. Will have to see how long it holds.HAS ANYONE SUCCESSFULLY RESTARTED USING A PROTOCOL THEN BEEN ABLE TO QUIT???
lol same here..doctor put me on 25mg a day for 6 weeks. good luckMy test results came back at exactly 309 ng/dl (241-827) Starting Clomid today and will run it at 12.5mg for 6-8 weeks.
why does it suck?Clomid sucks! Maybe at the doses you are on wont be a issue. I'm on high dose 50mg/day for fertility and it SUCKS @SS big time
oh man i hope everything works out for u sorry to hear that1st note that I am on it for fertility. I am on THT and doing test shots were great but obviously with test-e only I shut down my boys.
So in order to see if I can start producing sperm I was taken of test and put on 50mg/day clomid.
I suffer from depression but it pretty much disapeared while on test. Best I felt (depression/sadness) in 15 years. Now on Clomid, depressed more than 50% of the time. I have zero libido. I am pretty much a nymph and with this stuff I never want it, never think about it and never get turned on.
So for me, it might make it so I can produce another kid but at the price of depression coming back and libido is gone.
I will have test done in 3 weeks to see if LH and FSH have raised on Clomid, if not will do HcG for 3 months then retest. If that fails then I will give up on trying to have another kid and go back to weekly test shots.
I think a guy your age should first try to restart his system with Clomid. That, and a good diet should do the trick. I also think you should make ZMA a regular part of your night time regimen. Try to avoid estrogens and eat plenty of cruciferous vegetables. If that doesn't do it you may need HCG.why does it suck?
If clomid raises you test you should consider HCG for long term therapy. It could also cure your fertility problem and I'm pretty sure your depression as well.Thanks, once back on test Im sure my life will improve. I dont think that 12.5-25mg of Clomid should cause such problems as my dosage.
It contains the minerals your body needs to produce testosterone. It also aids in recovery and sleep - both important. However if he can't produce enough LH on his own it won't be enough. I think he probably can. It would be good for you now that you are trying to stimulate your own production. Clomid stimulates LH secretion. HCG mimics it. In either case your system will need minerals. I use ZMA nightly along with my HCG protocol. My last test revealed total T of 1144 and I'm 50 years old.Why ZMA, I have tried it many time with no effect that I could tell of. What reasons or purpose do you think ZMA is needed. Meaning, why take it
It might help. It's always made me horny. The first time I tried zinc I was 19 - it was chelated. My brain was so overloaded with sexual images I couldn't study.Thanks, been a while since I have researched ZMA. I have a bottle at home and will start taking it tonight. Wish it would work miricles on my LOSS LIBIDO.
The mixture is the same across all brands. NOW makes good quality products.That would be great. Dont remember it having any noticable effects when I took it before. I buy the NOW brand ZMA 3 PILLS/DAY
..from what I understand, DHT is the prime hormone when it comes to libido. Have you had your DHT tested?...hebsMy question is what are the main hormones that cause low libido (should say 0 libido).
Check up on clomid and libido. I don't know anyone who swears by it for the long term. You may want to consider a switch to HCG now. It should take care of both your fertility and testosterone needs. I know it raises DHT.Does Clomid show that it reduces DHT or prolactin. I havent found much as far as clomid messing up libido but that is what I have to assume to be messing up my s3x life. Nothing else changed and everything was good on test.
So woundering what hormoes might have gotten out of wack to cause low libido. Test levels still in 600+ and E2 dropped almost 50%
thanks for the info. the urgloist is sending me to a endo.. i dont think i had a good doctor b/c he was ready to write me a prescrib for testostrone and i told him i wanted to know what was wrong with me and just putting that in my system would be covering up whats really wrong
You need to find out why you are having these symptoms. Unfortunately that takes work which Dr's do not like to do. That is why people fed up with the medical system and look for alternative solutions. I have gotten a lot of guys restart in the past so it may be something you want to consider. Some times it just a simple thing which dr's overlook which may be the contributing factor.EXACTLY what I told my primary doc and urologist. They looked at me like I was crazy... Here they are frying my testicles when the problem is in my head! Anyway, I wish you luck. I think I have an endo that will work with me pretty well. He at least has patients on clomid and HCG, as opposed to the urologists and docs that haven't ever heard of anything but the pharmas pushing testosterone.
I have successfully restarted with just hcg and have been off all meds for over 10 months.. Lh jumped from 2.1 to 5 and is holding just finecommend you for wanting to find the cause..but im thinking sometimes there isntt... just happensHAS ANYONE SUCCESSFULLY RESTARTED USING A PROTOCOL THEN BEEN ABLE TO QUIT??? im thinking not...personally, im more than fine jabing myself everyweek and feeling/looking good...you could be over a yr trying to figure it out, or more trying someone to find a doctor willing to look..good luck