im sooo tired

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ok.... i'll sum it up

for the last year i have been feeling like hell, although i remember one time in the summer i felt amazingg....


im on clomid 25mg every 3 days, 2.5 grains of armour (although i think i may reduce to 2), because that time i felt good i was only at 1.5 grains armour but according to my labs i needed an increase so im not sure about this... (although shippen still thinks im at 1.5 grains, he doesnt usually go higher than this)

later i found out i had low ferritin (28) and now its 120 about.

i went off clomid and my TT went from 700 down to 290 =[, nope my HTPA didnt reset like i had hoped, so now im back on, its been 3 weeks, but yet i still feel like ass...

i started isocort and preg cream because my cortisol levels showed low

the good news is i can now have sex, no more PE and i can get hard whenever i want, this is the first time for me in 5 years; honestly i swear its because the ALA/ALC theapry
here are my results

heres the newest labs
Testosterone 292 ng/dl ( 241 - 828 )
Estraidol Rapid <32 pg/ml < OR = 54 i have no idea why they do this test.
Prolactin 7.9 ng/ml (2 - 18)
SHBH 33 ( 7 - 49 )

Cortisol Saliva


Cortisol Morning 9.2 ( 5.1 - 40.2 )
Cortisol Noon 4.1 ( 2.1 - 15.7 )
Cortisol Evening 3.0 ( 1.8 - 12.1 )
Cortisol Night .5 ( .9 - 9.2 )

these labs are from 2 grains of armour and they were done 2 months ago.
thyroid anti >1000 <35
FT4 1.2 ( . 8 - 1.8 )
FT3 360 ( 230 - 420 )
TSH .03 (.4 - 4.5)



revious test done:::::

Urine Test
Time 9:20AM
DeC 07
Epinephrine (µg/gCr) 8.0 (8 – 12)

Norepinephrine (µg/gCr) 53.5 (35-50)

Dopamine (µg/gCr) 188.5 (110 – 175)

Serotonin (µg/gCr) 109.2 (150 – 200)

Glycine (umol/gCr) 75.5 (200 – 400 )

Taurine (umol/gCr) 154.4 (150 – 550)

GABA (umol/gCr) 1.2 (1.5 – 4 .0)

Glutamine (umol/gCr) 217.6 (150 – 500)

Glutamate (umol/gCr) 16.2 (10 – 35)

Aspartic Acid (µmol/gCr) 22.6 (20 – 40)

PEA (nmol/gCr) 213.3 (175 – 450)

Agmatine (ug/gCr) 3.6 (1-2)

Histamine (ug/gCr) 20.4 (10-20)

Creatinine (mg/dL) 262.5 ( N/A )



but before that i have been suffering with my sexual problems (weak erections, premature ejaculation, lack of drive, no libido, no energy)

i been suffering on and off for 5 years since i was 18, now im 23

April 19th 2007
DHEAS (saliva) 7.9 Ok 13.7 Ok ng/ml 2-23 (Age Dependent)
Cortisol Morning (saliva) 9.2 Ok 8.6 Ok ng/ml 3.7-9.5
Cortisol Noon (saliva) 1.0 L ng/ml 1.2-3.0
Cortisol Evening (saliva) 1.9 Ok ng/ml 0.6-1.9
TSH (blood spot) 3.9 H 3.9 H uU/ml 0.5-3.0

May 1st 2007
Testosterone 340 ng / dl (230- 820)
TSH 9.0 (.5 - 5.50)

Started .5 grain of armour in early may.

May 25 Quest Results

Thyroglobulin antibodies 204 iU/mL <20
Thyroid Peroxidase antis >1000 iU/mL <35

DHEA-S 306 mcg/dl 110-510
FSH 6.9 miu/mL (1.6 - 8.0)
LH 4.4 miu/mL (1.5 - 9.3)
TSH 3.66 miu/L (.4 - 5.5)
E2 33 pg/ml ( 13 - 54)
Cortisol AM 16.4 mcg/dl ( 4 - 22)

SHBG 32 nmol/L (7 - 44)
T3, FREE 282 pg/dl (230-420)

Shippens protocol 30mg Clomid 3x weekly, 1.5CC selegnine, 1.5grains armour (1 grain AM, .5 Grain before bed)

September 7, 2007 Quest LaBs

Prolactin 7.1 ng/mL (2.0 - 18.0)
T4, Free 1.5 ng/dl (.8 - 1.8)
T3, Free 333 pg/dl (230 - 420)
Total Test. 766 ng/dl ( 240 - 827)
TSH, 3rd Generation .03 miu/L (.4 - 4.5)
Estradiol, Ultrasensitive (LC/MS/MS) 18 pg/ml < OR - 29
DHT 86 ng/dl 25-75


Tech-Diagnos

CORTISOL SALVIA
Morning: 14 (13 - 24 )
Noon: 19 (5 - 10)
Mid Afternnoon 10 (3-8)
Midnight 8 ( 1 - 4 )

quest
Ferrtin 28 (20 - 280)


i'll be getting E2 back in a few days.

im at 2.25 grains.
anti was way HIGH like 1000> ; some reason they only tested the one thyroid anti, but im betting the other one is high to, since it was before.

ft4 1.2 ( 0.8 - 1.8 )
ft3 360 ( 230 - 420 )

Vitamin b12 722 (200 - 1100)
total iron 54 (45-175)
Ferritin 50 ( 20 - 345) it was at 27, but i forget to stop Iron 3 days before test, so this test is basically useless.
Iodine URINE 1505 uG/L (42-320)
Testosterone 627. which is interesting because i been doing clomid 25mg every 3 days, when i was 30mg 3x a week my Testosterone was about 760.
so its gone done......

Lipid Panel

Triglycerides 45 mg/dl <150
Cholesterol, Total 166 mg/dl ( 125 – 200 )
HDL Cholesterol 49 mg/dl > OR = 40
LDL Cholesterol 108 mg/dl (calc) <130

CHOL/HDLC Ratio 3.4 (calc) < OR = 5

DIRECT LDL 112 mg/dl <130

Phosphate (AS PHOSPHORUS) 3.7 mg/dl ( 2.5 – 4.5)
Uric Acid 6.5 mg/dl ( 4.0 – 8.0 )

Glucose 77 mg/dl ( 2.5 – 4.5 )
UREA Nitrogen ( BUN ) 16 mg/dl ( 7 – 25 )
Creatinine 1.1 mg/dl ( .5 – 1.3)
GFR Estimated >60 ml/min/1.73m2> OR = 60

BUN/Creatinine Ratio 15 (CALC) 6 – 22
SODIUM 137 mmol/L ( 135 – 146 )
Potassium 4.5 mmol/L ( 3.5 – 5.3 )
Chloride 103 mmol/L ( 98 – 110 )
Carbon Dioxide 23 mmol/L ( 21 – 33 )
Calcium 9.5 mg/dl ( 8.6 – 10.2 )
Protein, Total 7.5 g/dL ( 6.2 – 8.3)
ALBUMIN 4.6 g/dL ( 3.6 – 5.1)
Globulin 2.9 g/dL ( 2.1 – 3.7 )
Albumin / Globulin RATIO 1.6 (calc) ( 1.0 – 2.1 )




Total Bilirubin .6 mg/dl ( . 2 – 1 .2 )
Alkaline Phosphate 40 u/l (40 – 115 )
AST 21 u/l ( 10 – 41 )
ALT 19 u/l ( 9 – 60 )

SED RATE BY MODIDIFIED
WESTERGREN 2 mm/h < OR = 15

CBC (includes Diff/Plt)

White Blood Cell Count 5.2 thousand/ uL ( 3.8 – 10.8 )
Red Blood Cell Count 5.37 million/ uL ( 4.20 – 5.80 )
Hemoglobin 15.8 g/dL ( 13.2 - 17.1 )
Hematocrit 46.2 % (38.5 – 50.0 )
MCV 85.9 fL ( 80 – 100 )
MCH 29.4 pg ( 27 – 33 )
MCHC 34.2 g/dL ( 32 – 36 )
RDW 13.2 % ( 11 – 15 )
Platelet Count 187 thousand / uL ( 140 – 400 )

Absolute Neutrophils 2236 cells / ul ( 1500 – 7800 )
Absolute Lymphocytes 1976 cells / ul ( 850 – 3900 )
Absolute Monocytes 364 cells / ul ( 200 – 950 )
Absolute Eosinophils 572 cells / ul ( 15 – 500 )  HIGH
Absolute Basophils 0 cells / ul ( 0 – 200 )

Neutrophils 43 %
Lymphocytes 38 %
Monocytes 7 %
Eosinophils 11 %
Basophils 0 %

Urinalysis, Reflex
Color Yellow
Appearance Clear
Specific Gravity 1.021 ( 1.001 – 1.035)
PH 6.0 ( 5.0 – 8.0)
Glucose Negative
Bilirubin Negative
Ketones Negative
Occult blood Negative
Protein Negative
Nitrite Negative
Leukocyte Esterase Negative

Current SUpplements

25mg CLOMID every 3 days,
2.25 GRAINS ARMOUR
 
LeanGuy

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Your low energy could definately be from low cortisol. Hopefully the isocort/preg will help. Adding licorice root in the A.M. can increase the half-life of your cortisol, and give you some more energy. Just don't take it at night :)

I am also on clomid therapy right now, and it can make you feel "weird" and tired sometimes.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, nor am I giving any medical advice.
 

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well i f*cked up big time

ok i had a rash on my arm and i used HC on my rash, i stopped the HC cream because i got on candida work, seemed my rash was due to candida, now you can see one of my results my cortisol levels are high, thats because the HC cream messed up those results, so i went off and got new ones,

how long does it take for cortisol to come up
 
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how long does it take for cortisol to come up
My cortisol came up really quick, like within a month... to above normal levels, so be careful. Above normal means lousy sleep!

Do you have more energy when your test is highest?

If you don't mind saying, how old are you?
 

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im 23.... hmm i guess i feel better. i still always wish to have more energy
 
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If clomid doesn't keep your FSH/LH up after stopping, you may be a good candidate for HCG therapy, since your testes seem to work fine (secondary hypo). The downside is... it's a forever thing once you go down that road. Maybe someone can offer some clomid alternatives (I'd like to know as well if mine fails to restart). On another note, it could be your low thyroid function that's blocking your test production, and upping your thyroid may solve all your problems. Hang in there.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, nor am I giving any medical advice.
 

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yeah i think thyroid is related to low test. but i been on thyroid now and clomid together for 6 months, i have no idea how much more time its going to take....
 

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although im really confused on dosing armour......
 

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What about you caffeine intake? Caffeine causes lethargy, i used to be tired every day evern after getting 8+ hrs of sleep, i would wake up and be yawning a few hours later. I always felt i needed caffeine drinks to keep me 'normal'. I didnt realize 800 mg caffeine could do that to me. Now im back to normal with only about 100-150mg a day. Just a thought... :stick:
 
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the good news is i can now have sex, no more PE and i can get hard whenever i want, this is the first time for me in 5 years; honestly i swear its because the ALA/ALC theapry
here are my results

Candida
Please give more details about ALA/ALC theapy.

What are you taking, why, what tests did show that that is what you need. Very interesting, please share.

Also what is going on with your Candida?
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ALA (alpha-lipoic acid)
ALC (acetyl-L-carnitine)
 

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I have heard mention of candida, but never knew if it is an actual condition. I'm interested, what did your symptoms consist of?
 

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i guess my main symptom was a rash on my arm that would not go away, itching and possible some fatigue
 

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