Libido and hardness and what works

[corndog]

Woundering if anyone has heard of the hardness factor book/program? Also is there anything that actually works for increasing libido?

I have lost all desire over the past few months and my test levels are above norm. I will be having other tests done such a E2 but since I am waiting I am interested in others trial and error when it comes to supplements.

I know Aspine supposed to work like vigra and give you better hardness but does nothing for libido.

Maca, I have used and most will say it increases volume of load but I havent had any experience with it working on libido or hardness.

I have heard some mixed stuff on horny goat weed but that is all mixed. I am thinking of trying it but have only heard about a 50/50 mix. I guess I should know if it worked then everyone would be using it so I have my doubts.

L-arginine have not heard much on this maybe 25/75 possitive

Any thoughts on liquid viagra or liquid cialis as far as hardness and comparing them to the real deal. I guess hardness doent matter if I have little to no libido/desire. I mean p@rn barely does anything for me

[JanSz]

Woundering if anyone has heard of the hardness factor book/program? Also is there anything that actually works for increasing libido?

I have lost all desire over the past few months and my test levels are above norm. I will be having other tests done such a E2 but since I am waiting I am interested in others trial and error when it comes to supplements.

I know Aspine supposed to work like vigra and give you better hardness but does nothing for libido.

Maca, I have used and most will say it increases volume of load but I havent had any experience with it working on libido or hardness.

I have heard some mixed stuff on horny goat weed but that is all mixed. I am thinking of trying it but have only heard about a 50/50 mix. I guess I should know if it worked then everyone would be using it so I have my doubts.

L-arginine have not heard much on this maybe 25/75 possitive

Any thoughts on liquid viagra or liquid cialis as far as hardness and comparing them to the real deal. I guess hardness doent matter if I have little to no libido/desire. I mean p@rn barely does anything for me

Stop any supplements, minerals, vitamins, oils etc for a two monts or three.

Do Genova Diagnostics

NutrEval
test.

This test will do all kinds of checks,

metabolic,
nurotransmitters,
fatty acids,
minerals,
Anti-oxidants
Essential co-factors
Amino acids
vitamins,
toxics

you name it it have it.

Very cost efective and
talk back straight about corrective action,
with a list of supplements and daily dose
on a bottom line.

(plus all the usual discussion if one cares about).

[Gutterpump]

The NutrEval looks like a great test, but realistically, I don't think most people can afford to spend over $1000 at once on testing. I know I wish I could...if they made a payment plan lol. Not that I don't make a lot of money, it's just a lot to fork out at once for a test, and general health insurance won't cover it.

[rick055]

For rigidity, 9 mg yohimbine alkaloids work wonders.

[JanSz]

The NutrEval looks like a great test, but realistically, I don't think most people can afford to spend over $1000 at once on testing. I know I wish I could...if they made a payment plan lol. Not that I don't make a lot of money, it's just a lot to fork out at once for a test, and general health insurance won't cover it.

Are you sure that insurance will not cover those tests?

I do not know, I am still waiting, but Genova did send the paperwork out.

They would not do that if they knew before hand that there is no chance for any money back.

So far I did not get any bills from them, asking for money.

My first test at Genova I did oct1/07 (IIRC).

[Gutterpump]

Do they just require a script from your pcp in order to do the tests, then they will be completely covered as long as your PCP is in your general network?

My PCP does not use that lab for testing, so I assumed I could only use specific labs. My endo also only uses 2 labs for testing and they no longer use Quest so I cannot go to them either.

[JanSz]

Do they just require a script from your pcp in order to do the tests, then they will be completely covered as long as your PCP is in your general network?

My PCP does not use that lab for testing, so I assumed I could only use specific labs. My endo also only uses 2 labs for testing and they no longer use Quest so I cannot go to them either.

Yes, Genova (in USA) deals only with doctors.
It gives the a training and charts to use when filling their request for testing.
Those charts contain the suspected diagnostic codes that are apropriate for each test.

In UK one can buy those tests using credit card.

Time to change endo and GP.

[madmakmitch]

what supps are u taking loss of libido is usally produced by a low dopamine level in the brain which is caused from varios supp and res drugs ive heard people being prescribed adderall to increase sex drive while on ssris cuz of the low dopamine levels caused by those ssri meds

[JanSz]

what supps are u taking loss of libido is usally produced by a low dopamine level in the brain which is caused from varios supp and res drugs ive heard people being prescribed adderall to increase sex drive while on ssris cuz of the low dopamine levels caused by those ssri meds

Test for that is included in NutrEval.

among other 149 important checks.

[T-Bone]

I haven't had libido since I was 25. The only thing that ever worked for me was transdermal 4ad.

[corndog]

Nothing in general has happened to cause the issue. But the longer the problem lasts the more it does make me depressed and stressed about it. So its kind of a catch 22 issue.

No known cause but the more it happens the more it bothers me and becomes a stresser and deprsion.

Having e levels done this week. Trying to improve it with foods/vegi's.

[JanSz]

Nothing in general has happened to cause the issue. But the longer the problem lasts the more it does make me depressed and stressed about it. So its kind of a catch 22 issue.

No known cause but the more it happens the more it bothers me and becomes a stresser and deprsion.

Having e levels done this week. Trying to improve it with foods/vegi's.

Make sure you do your tests at Quest, blood drawn at Quest.
Blood drawn at day of the shot, time of the shot before shot.

It would help great deal to be on EOD schedule with
(T + AI) and (380iu HCG) shots

To check your T & E2 levels do

Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)

goal

FreeE2(0.45 -0.6)
BAT~575
.
.

[engival]

ALA/ALC literally cured me of ED, i no longer need aspire/cialis to have sex; id 1600mg ALA and 5000mg ALC daily

[Bungloid48]

Stop any supplements, minerals, vitamins, oils etc for a two monts or three.

Do Genova Diagnostics

NutrEval
test.

This test will do all kinds of checks,

metabolic,
nurotransmitters,
fatty acids,
minerals,
Anti-oxidants
Essential co-factors
Amino acids
vitamins,
toxics

you name it it have it.

Very cost efective and
talk back straight about corrective action,
with a list of supplements and daily dose
on a bottom line.

(plus all the usual discussion if one cares about).

lol Jan, I think you should make your cut-paste "go do bloodwork, damnit!" post into a sticky so everyone does it before posting.

[rick055]

ALA/ALC literally cured me of ED, i no longer need aspire/cialis to have sex; id 1600mg ALA and 5000mg ALC daily

Funny you should mention aspire, I heard wonders about it and just ordered some. I hear you gotta be careful for headaches, so I'm going to try plenty of water and aspirin beforehand.

[b4554]

ALA/ALC literally cured me of ED, i no longer need aspire/cialis to have sex; id 1600mg ALA and 5000mg ALC daily

Sorry for the newbie question, but what are ALA and ALC? Thanks

[morigu]

Sorry for the newbie question, but what are ALA and ALC? Thanks

Alpha Lipoic Acid and Acety L-Carnitine, if I spelled them right that is. I have read Propionyl-L-Carnitine is supposed to work better, but have not tried it myself.

[rick055]

Alpha Lipoic Acid and Acety L-Carnitine, if I spelled them right that is. I have read Propionyl-L-Carnitine is supposed to work better, but have not tried it myself.

Is ALA the stuff that's sometimes in an NO supplement that can make you "tingly"?

[morigu]

Is ALA the stuff that's sometimes in an NO supplement that can make you "tingly"?

Not sure on that one, I know it helps regulate blood sugar levels. One curious side effect I've noticed tho is it makes my piss stink pretty bad.

[ROB968323]

Correct me if I'm wrong but he was talking about sexual desire not the ability to get a hardon.