I got some adrenal fatigue from stims, but T3/T4 are non stim.
If i took T3/T4 would this effect my adrenal glands negatively?
Thanks.
If i took T3/T4 would this effect my adrenal glands negatively?
Thanks.
It would be a good idea to stop stimulats and other drugs.I got some adrenal fatigue from stims, but T3/T4 are non stim.
If i took T3/T4 would this effect my adrenal glands negatively?
Thanks.
I do not see much hope for you, untill you settle down, stop all this multitude of drugs, so there is a chance to figure out what is wrong with you.Hi, thanks for the help.
JanSz, i was wondering if you could help me out please, ive seen Doctors, an Endo, and i got some blood work done, and all thats really come back abnormal was my low DHEA-S.
I will post the results below, but want to explain my situation first.
I was using Avodart for hairloss, and i was kind of fatigued on it, im 23 years old, and depend on my looks for my job and future career, so i didnt want to give up and lose my hair, my dreams would be ruined.
So i used some green/black tea, caffeine,ect, stimulants, and when i stopped them i crashed big time, and had like no energy, and my face went puffy. This happened in May, and since then im feeling a lot better, but my face is still puffy/ swollen looking. Its not super puffy but you can tell my cheeks are puffed up. Im very lean no more than 10% bodyfat, naturally muscular and have a 6 pack, so its not fat, yet my weight has gone up like 10 pounds and i think its 85% water.
My cheeks have never been puffy like this before in my life and i used to life a unhealthier lifestyle, now i live healthey and eat healthy but it doesnt help.
I didnt use any stims or drugs for about 6 months, and my cheeks still stayed puffed out, they just didnt want to budge.
Aug/15/07
Free Testosterone - 53.6 Range 31-94
LH - 3 Range 3-6
FSH - 3 Range 2-8
DHEA-S - 2.8 LOW Range 7.6-17.4
TSH - 1.24 Range 0.35 - 5.00
Sep/18/07
DHEA-S - 3.6 LOW Range 7.6-17.4
Cortisol 24 Hour Urine - 132 Range 27-180
The next day i started Dermacrine and it lasted me 3 weeks. Started Sustain for 2 days, stopped the day before this next blood test.
Oct/15/07
DHEA-S - 3.3 LOW Range 7.6-17.4
Estradiol-17 Beta - 224 HIGH Range Up To 206
DHT - 3391 ( Ref 860-3406 )
Nov/30/07
Testosterone = 20.5 (Ref 7.3 - 23.5)
Free Testosterone = 54.0 (Ref 31.0 - 94.0)
Androstenedione = 7.3 (Ref 2.2 - 10.2)
FSH = 2 (Ref 2 - 8)
LH = 6 (Ref 2 - 6)
Estradiol = 195 (Ref UP TO 206)
Total Prolactin = 8 (Ref 2 - 18)
DHEA-S = 5.4 LO (Ref 7.6 - 17.4)
TSH = 1.48 (Ref 0.35 - 5.00)
Free T3 = 5.9 (Ref 3.5 - 6.5)
Free T4 = 15 (Ref 9 - 23)
Sodium = 140 (Ref 135 - 147)
Potassium = 3.7 (Ref 3.5 - 5.2)
Glucose - Random = 4.3 (Ref 3.6 - 6.9)
The VERY frustrating thing is, that even though my blood work looks pretty normal, my cheeks are puffed out, and i want to get rid of them so bad its ruining my life. Nobody will help me and i dont know what to do.
Ive tried Letrozole and that didnt even get rid of my puffy cheeks, i thought mabye its a Estrogen issue due to when i used Avodart, but ive quit the Avodart since May.
Can you PLEASE help me out? Ive even tried T3 and Proviron, just because i was so sick of my puffy cheeks, and no Docs or anybody would help me, and that didnt work.
On Christmas Eve i tried Avodart again in combination with T3 and Letrozole, and after 2 days on this, my puffy cheeks went away. It made me pee a lot, but after the 3rd 4th day, my puffy cheeks came back.
I just cant win, i'll do whatever it takes to get rid of this. I cant go on like this much longer.
Please help me out, i would REALLY appreciate it.
Thanks.
Do search on this board and meso board, here:Thanks for the help, i really appreciate it.
I will check those tests you mentioned.
I want to make this clear.
I havent been on Dermacrine in months, as i said in my testing i finished dermacrine and got those blood tests done in October. Dermacrine raised my E2 which i didnt like, and probabbly my Progesterone aswell.
I also havent been on a multitude of drugs, i stayed clean for like 6 months and my face was still puffy. I got the last bloodwork done, the big list and wasnt on any drugs.
I cant be walking around like this and nobody was helping me out so i cant just sit here and do nothing about it and ruin my life.
Which diseases can cause a puffy face?
What do you think is causing my puffy face?
I even payed $850 for a food sensativity/intolerance tests, 250 foods, and im waiting on the results in the mail.
There isJanSz, how do i order the NutrEval-NEW Test?
Can you please post the the exact link to buy it please?
I live in Canada, does this matter?
I want to order this ASAP if its going to cover all bases that are non-hormone related.
I need to figure out whats wrong with me.
Thanks.
super, how is your sleep?Thanks, i'll give them a call tomorrow and find out.
Hopefully i can order this.
Scattered information is counterproductive.01/14/2008
DHEAS (saliva) 4.6L ng/ml 7-23 (Age 16 - 30)LOW
Cortisol Morning (saliva) 2.6L ng/ml 3.7-9.5LOW
Cortisol Noon (saliva) 3.4H ng/ml 1.2-3.0HIGH
Cortisol Evening (saliva) 1.4 ng/ml 0.6-1.9OK
Cortisol Night (saliva) 0.7 ng/ml 0.4-1.0OK
My other bloodwork and symptoms can be found here in this thread, on my second post.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/82810-if-i-have.html
So is this adrenal fatigue?
What can i do to return my adrenals back to normal, and get my DHEA-S to be high normal, and my Cortisol to be normal patterns throughout the day?
I should not have to suplement with DHEA to get my levels optimal at 23 years old, i need to fix the root of the problem right? I tired oral time released DHEA 25mg and it made me feel weird, like a buzzed feeling and some brain fog.
BTW, my issues are due to crashing off of stimulant use in May/07, and i STILL havent returned to normal.
Thanks for the help.
You will have to be much more detailed about the stimulants that you took.My fatigue used to be bad when i first crashed of stimulants, but its not as bad.
Stop The Thyroid Madness » How to treat adrenals–for the patient and their doctorsHey JanSz,
I have some Isocort on the way, but i was wondering how i would slowly ramp up to 20mg/day divided, of Cortef, as you suggested in your first reply to my thread?
I want to order some Cortef and Armour just incase the Isocort doesnt do the trick for me, but would like to know how i would go about slowly starting these, because i want to heal my adrenals and not make them any worse than thry already are.
Thanks!
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