22 Gauge X 1.5 inch needle

[rick055]

I start shots today and the IM syringes are 22 gauge X 1.5".

I am shooting in to the outer quad, how deep should I go, 1"? i.e. leave 1/2" exposed?)

Also is it a better idea to keep the hCG in the fridge even BEFORE it's constituted?

[bpmartyr]

What are you injecting?

[rick055]

What are you injecting?

With the 22 gauge, test cyp, 1 ml, 200 mg/ml.

I actually found another resource on the net and left it out about 1/4", aspirated, no blood, and injected.

I changed needles between drawing and injecting and I am happy to report that my first IM inject went very well.

That said, what's your take?

[bpmartyr]

I prefer a 25g x 1" personally after drawing with a 22. You will get a feel real quick for the proper depth.

[David Dunn]

Ditto.

1" fully inserted takes out the guessing.

[rick055]

Ditto.

1" fully inserted takes out the guessing.

So you guys use a 1" needle to the hilt?

I thought you were supposed to leave a little in case it gets snapped?

[cpeil2]

I thought you were supposed to leave a little in case it gets snapped?

Correct.


22g is kind of a big needle. The large bore makes injecting easy, but since TRT is a long-term undertaking, the better practice is to use the smallest bore needle that you can in order to minimize scarring. I think injecting with a 25g would be a better choice.

[bpmartyr]

Gets snapped? WTF? Ever try to snap one?

[rick055]

Correct.


22g is kind of a big needle. The large bore makes injecting easy, but since TRT is a long-term undertaking, the better practice is to use the smallest bore needle that you can in order to minimize scarring. I think injecting with a 25g would be a better choice.

Okay, I will buy some 25 X 1.5's.

CP, do you think 27's would be even better? What length? How deep do I need to go into a quad to inject 1/2 ml?

Now that I am *somewhat* comfy with an injection and how the top screws on/off, I can draw with the 22 and inject with something else.

[bpmartyr]

Tough to get oil through a 27. 25's are the sweet spot IMO.

[David Dunn]

So you guys use a 1" needle to the hilt?

I thought you were supposed to leave a little in case it gets snapped?

Warning: Use caution when using sharp objects!

[cpeil2]

Okay, I will buy some 25 X 1.5's.

CP, do you think 27's would be even better? What length? How deep do I need to go into a quad to inject 1/2 ml?

Now that I am *somewhat* comfy with an injection and how the top screws on/off, I can draw with the 22 and inject with something else.

Some people inject T through a 27g, but the injection takes a long time and requires a steady hand. If you have patience and steady nerves, I think it would be an option. The smaller the pin, the less trauma. Less trauma equals less scarring.

If it were me, being an impatient sort, I would not go finer than 25g.

[David Dunn]

You may find that the 23g works well on the thigh in regard to injection trauma and is less resistant to the pressure of the plunger. This in turn provides a more stable process of injection and plunger depression.

[rick055]

Some people inject T through a 27g, but the injection takes a long time and requires a steady hand. If you have patience and steady nerves, I think it would be an option. The smaller the pin, the less trauma. Less trauma equals less scarring.

If it were me, being an impatient sort, I would not go finer than 25g.

Would you still do a 1.5" needle penetrated to a 1" depth?

[cpeil2]

Would you still do a 1.5" needle penetrated to a 1" depth?

I don't know. I always injected into the glutes, and a 1.5" needle worked well for that.

The quad doesn't seem to be as massive as the glute, so maybe a shorter needle would be better. But I am only speculating.

[Diancecht]

I use a 27 gauge, inch and and quarter in the glutes. Virtually painless although you have to put firm pressure on it to get it to flow. Its a slower delivery too. I prefer it over the 22 gauge that I first started with.

I have never seen anyone snap a needle off in over 25 years of medical work. However never say never.

[gotripped]

this isn't rocket science.

1) You buy a syringe with a large gauge needle on it such as 18g-23g.
2) You either A) draw through the large gauge needles and then inject with a 25g or B) you draw through the large gauge needles, heat up the test in hot water, and use a small 27g needle to shoot it as the warm liquid flows much easier


Needles don't snap. You could inject during an earth quake and not "snap" a needle off inside you. Not to mention it has no relevancy whether it is 1.5" or 1". Just put it deep enough to hit the muscle and inject.

The End.

[BigPHusers11]

I start shots today and the IM syringes are 22 gauge X 1.5".

I am shooting in to the outer quad, how deep should I go, 1"? i.e. leave 1/2" exposed?)

Also is it a better idea to keep the hCG in the fridge even BEFORE it's constituted?

god...thats too big ur gonna make urself very sore...i would use a 25g with 1"inch needle and u stick the needle in all the way then...never used 1.5" thoough seems too long..

[rick055]

god...thats too big ur gonna make urself very sore...i would use a 25g with 1"inch needle and u stick the needle in all the way then...never used 1.5" thoough seems too long..

First day after the shot, not too bad. Feels kind of like a minor bruise, but not really uncomfortable.

I am going to try a 25 gauge next time.

The needles I got were from my doctor and, truth be told, I penetrated 1 1/4 - 1 3/8 with no discomfort upon delivery.

[cpeil2]

Needles don't snap.

Needles do break. I have seen it happen. True, they do not break often. But as Diancecht said, never say never.