androgel vs. testim vs. compounded

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    androgel vs. testim vs. compounded


    anyone have absorption issues with Androgel and then switch to either Testim or compounded cream and experience good results.

    I have heard Testim absorbs better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wondering View Post
    anyone have absorption issues with Androgel and then switch to either Testim or compounded cream and experience good results.

    I have heard Testim absorbs better.
    I do not have experience with testim.

    Used Androgel, good absorption, good blood TT levels.
    TT levels as per their booklet.

    Used 100mg/1gram Tcream, poor absorbtion.

    Both types of delivery raised my DHT to very high levels, 5xtop range on Androgel

    I did not need AI while on transdermals.
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    I just switched to shots myself from using compounded T gel. Used T cream before that. Depends on what base they use for compounding also. Pharmacist changed to PLO base said it absorbed better. Worked ok at first but then I seem to not feel so high. Might be in my mind though. I just didnt like doing it everyday though. My dht is high already so probably better to be on shots.

    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    I do not have experience with testim.

    Used Androgel, good absorption, good blood TT levels.
    TT levels as per their booklet.

    Used 100mg/1gram Tcream, poor absorbtion.

    Both types of delivery raised my DHT to very high levels, 5xtop range on Androgel

    I did not need AI while on transdermals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aculpep View Post
    I just switched to shots myself from using compounded T gel. Used T cream before that. Depends on what base they use for compounding also. Pharmacist changed to PLO base said it absorbed better. Worked ok at first but then I seem to not feel so high. Might be in my mind though. I just didnt like doing it everyday though. My dht is high already so probably better to be on shots.
    Glad that you did changed to shots.
    You should have little problem getting this three (major) numbers at desired level:

    FreeT
    FreeE2
    FreeT3

    You just need to have a trust in the system, stick tightly to schedule and do this three tests at Quest often enough:

    Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
    Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
    FreeT3

    Adjust so your numbers are

    Estradiol, Free (0.45-0.6) pg/mL
    BioT on top of range
    FreeT3 on top of range


    Do E2D schedule.
    One day (T + Liquidex)
    next day HCG

    Using Liquidex is important, there is no way to cut Arimidex evenly and uneven doses wreak havoc in e2 levels.

    One more, when handling HCG, reduce time outside the fridge to minimum, hold the vial by the top with just tips of fingers.
    Just so you transfer minimum heat.
    I am using my HCG to the end.
    Using 250iu/E2D

    10000/250*2=80 days
    no problems
    ========================
    about
    Estradiol, Free (0.45-0.6) pg/mL

    proper range is work in progress,
    last time I had
    E2=29
    FreeE2=0.75
    I already was ok erection vise, but I have increased my Liquidex (tiny bit) in an effort to get closer to the Quest recomended 0.45
    I think FreeE2 is much more precise indicator then guesses on E2 levels.
    It is similar situation as if trying to use TotalT as the one and only indicator for proper T levels (hopeless).
    I do not think we ever want to be below 0.45.

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