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    Just an update on my journey with TRT I am still with my 3rd Dr who had me feeling very good but I felt I could feel better so I enlisted the services of "Hard as Nails” I sent him my blood work history and current TRT and supplement program tweaked some and added others and I know feel GREAT and getting better everyday! After 2 years and not having sex with wife w/o cialis or something like that we have been going at it like teenagers for the last week and I am not taking anything ... and I just got aspire 36 and have no need anymore. For all of those struggling sometimes it can be the most minor change that offers the greatest reward. Finding a good Dr is key and it can't be done w/o but also having somebody who understands how supplements affect the whole system is even better. "HAN” you’re the man looking forward to seeing the changes after we tweak my diet as well!

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    The whole implimetation of the suggestions are based on extensive interviewing dealing all aspects of lifestyle patterns, from where they worked, past drug history, to present day habits from getting up to when they goto bed. from there I look at daily eating patterns , current supplmenttation, mineral imbalances and current symptoms. in conjunction with HRT I compliment each indivdual needs base upon teh extensive indept inteerview.

    I work from specific method from cellular level on up restabilisation of cell membrane and correcting proper digestion, gut , malabsorption problems that may be hormonally linked, then from there is on to balncing the liver pathways according to specific blockages, so to remedy the problem.I give support to all pathways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill-NJ View Post
    I don't want to give away all the secrets and w/o a need what is working for me may not work for others and could even set one back. I will tell you the basics of my treatment but not the details

    Armour Thyroid * My Dr insisted this is most important step *
    Testosterne Cypionate Daily Shot
    HCG Daily Shot
    DHEA
    Pregnelone
    Fish Oils
    Prostate Supplement
    Sam-e
    Probiotics
    Melatonin

    All of the above with a custom designed diet that compliments my nutritional needs has worked wonders I have been a very happy and regular guy the last few weeks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
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    "I don't want to give way all the secrets"
    JanSz by secrets I mean the timing and amounts I am taking, a lot of what was changed was very minor and had amazing effects. So much is when you take things and how you take them. The supplements I take are no secret in fact I am sure most on the board have tried many of these without success but I now know its when you take and how that makes it work.
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    Did I read this correctly?
    You take a daily shot of test?

    I understand the benefits from keeping your t level constant but is that why you are doing them daily?
    If thats not the reason can you explain why?
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by muslhead View Post
    Bill
    Did I read this correctly?
    You take a daily shot of test?

    I understand the benefits from keeping your t level constant but is that why you are doing them daily?
    If thats not the reason can you explain why?
    Thanks
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    After doing the weekly shot thing for a year I changed Dr's and I was daily T Cream for 2 months I expressed a desire to change to shots because I have an 18 month old at home he changed to shots but dail .15cc for now along with daily hcg I am sure I could adjust but feeling as good as I do now I'll daeal with everyday shots. I am not sure how this all ties in to E2 levels that too could be part of his reasoning behind daily shot.
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    Bill, are you shooting test suspension ED?

    Or an ester?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick055 View Post
    Bill, are you shooting test suspension ED?

    Or an ester?
    This was exactly going to be my next question. I doubt it because unless you are making the stuff yourself or going underground I would think susp would be hard to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muslhead View Post
    This was exactly going to be my next question. I doubt it because unless you are making the stuff yourself or going underground I would think susp would be hard to find.
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    Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml .15cc daily and 250iu HCG daily I know it is not the norm but its working for me so I am sticking with it for now I have thought about switching to eod schedule but I am going to wait a few weeks to let everything settle now that I made some diet and supplement changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by muslhead View Post
    This was exactly going to be my next question. I doubt it because unless you are making the stuff yourself or going underground I would think susp would be hard to find.
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    Is suspension not sold in the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillfromNJ View Post
    Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml .15cc daily and 250iu HCG daily I know it is not the norm but its working for me so I am sticking with it for now I have thought about switching to eod schedule but I am going to wait a few weeks to let everything settle now that I made some diet and supplement changes
    So youre, in effect, taking 210mg/wk?
    What are your test levels with this regimine?
    No problems with elevated HCT/HGB?
    E2 good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick055 View Post
    Is suspension not sold in the US?
    I dont know if it is to be honest. I havent seen it but then again I havent been looking either.
    Suspension can be a very painful inject depending upon concentration, especially if 100mg/ml or above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muslhead View Post
    So youre, in effect, taking 210mg/wk?
    What are your test levels with this regimine?
    No problems with elevated HCT/HGB?
    E2 good?
    MH
    Last bllodwork test was high 800's but at that time I was using cream 100mg per gram using 2 grams a day but I do not think I was absorbing well and e2 was 52 but mostly due to high dhea levels I have now think has been corrected. I will be getting new bloodwork done next week and I will post results here and other boards as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillfromNJ View Post
    Last bllodwork test was high 800's but at that time I was using cream 100mg per gram using 2 grams a day but I do not think I was absorbing well and e2 was 52 but mostly due to high dhea levels I have now think has been corrected. I will be getting new bloodwork done next week and I will post results here and other boards as well
    I just had blood labs drawn while on 2 ml of 10% cream. My urine tests had me in the upper third, like you at 800, but I would have expected them higher at such a stout dose. I don't think I am absorbing well, either.

    My doc is looking at thyroid now, but I may have to make the switch to shots.

    Truth be told, I've been feeling a little off lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick055 View Post
    I just had blood labs drawn while on 2 ml of 10% cream. My urine tests had me in the upper third, like you at 800, but I would have expected them higher at such a stout dose. I don't think I am absorbing well, either.

    My doc is looking at thyroid now, but I may have to make the switch to shots.

    Truth be told, I've been feeling a little off lately.
    Assuming you are not one of the low DHT cases.
    Shots are the only way to go, trying transdermals have a use only if one is not able to find a doc who would write him script for injectable T.

    Next wery important item in my experience is having blood test done at Quest Diagnostics.
    This two tests, exactly as posted.

    Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
    Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)

    Using thise two tests get
    FreeE2~(0.45 - 0.6)
    BioavailableT~575 (top)

    Also get FreeT3 tested, get it adjusted so it is on top range

    That covers 50% of health problems discussed here.
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