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    I need some options guys.

    Might not be the best place to ask this - but there are alot of knowledgable people here, and it is somewhat related.....

    BP has always been borderline high - I've had to fight to keep it at 142/85 (plus or minus). I was hoping getting on TRT that things would improve, especially with some weight loss.

    Dropped 10 lbs, things got worse.

    I am now at 155/92 - plus or minus. I can't stay here.

    I powerlift, so don't give me options that will hinder that - if I quit the heavy lifting - I will add 20 pounds of fat in a heartbeat.

    I know I can quit all caffeine and alcohol - but how much would that help? is that the first step? I don't over do it - but can that get me low enough? Any advice, or anecdotes apprecitated.

    I know I am not getting medical advice here, but want to be able to have some options when I ask my Dr for some help getting the BP down.

    FWIW, I'm in my 50's. Was on a Beta blocker for BP in my late 30's early 40's. Got off of them by lifting weights, losing weight, quiting smokeless tobacco and divorcing my first wife. I HATED tenormin <sp?>.

    Your help, as always - greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherOldGuy View Post
    I need some options guys.

    Might not be the best place to ask this - but there are alot of knowledgable people here, and it is somewhat related.....

    BP has always been borderline high - I've had to fight to keep it at 142/85 (plus or minus). I was hoping getting on TRT that things would improve, especially with some weight loss.

    Dropped 10 lbs, things got worse.

    I am now at 155/92 - plus or minus. I can't stay here.

    I powerlift, so don't give me options that will hinder that - if I quit the heavy lifting - I will add 20 pounds of fat in a heartbeat.

    I know I can quit all caffeine and alcohol - but how much would that help? is that the first step? I don't over do it - but can that get me low enough? Any advice, or anecdotes apprecitated.

    I know I am not getting medical advice here, but want to be able to have some options when I ask my Dr for some help getting the BP down.

    FWIW, I'm in my 50's. Was on a Beta blocker for BP in my late 30's early 40's. Got off of them by lifting weights, losing weight, quiting smokeless tobacco and divorcing my first wife. I HATED tenormin <sp?>.

    Your help, as always - greatly appreciated.


    Sorry I'm no help, but I may have to go on meds for high bp also though. Mine was 144/85 last time I got it checked, doctor was somewhat concerned and I have another appointment on tuesday to check up. I really don't want to go on meds for something like this. I know increasing fruits a vegetables can help low blood pressure. Personally I don't think 144/85 is high enough to consider pharmaceutical options. I will see on Tuesday, but I'm gonna tell the Doc that I won't take a medication for high BP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherOldGuy View Post
    I need some options guys.

    Might not be the best place to ask this - but there are alot of knowledgable people here, and it is somewhat related.....

    BP has always been borderline high - I've had to fight to keep it at 142/85 (plus or minus). I was hoping getting on TRT that things would improve, especially with some weight loss.

    Dropped 10 lbs, things got worse.

    I am now at 155/92 - plus or minus. I can't stay here.

    I powerlift, so don't give me options that will hinder that - if I quit the heavy lifting - I will add 20 pounds of fat in a heartbeat.

    I know I can quit all caffeine and alcohol - but how much would that help? is that the first step? I don't over do it - but can that get me low enough? Any advice, or anecdotes apprecitated.

    I know I am not getting medical advice here, but want to be able to have some options when I ask my Dr for some help getting the BP down.

    FWIW, I'm in my 50's. Was on a Beta blocker for BP in my late 30's early 40's. Got off of them by lifting weights, losing weight, quiting smokeless tobacco and divorcing my first wife. I HATED tenormin <sp?>.

    Your help, as always - greatly appreciated.
    Are you using Cialis?
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    no cialis
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    Are you using Cialis?
    Jan,

    Can taking cialis lower BP?

    How much does it cost? Would you take it E3D?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick055 View Post
    Jan,

    Can taking cialis lower BP?

    How much does it cost? Would you take it E3D?
    Not really sure, but I thought that Cialis lowers BP.

    Original is expensive and by prescription.
    There are less and much less expensive versions available over internet.
    I tried two of them and both worked.
    I have to do that because even I have prescription plan they are screwy about number of necessities, like
    Cialis, restricted
    Armour, not covered
    Arimidex, not covered
    some other
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    When I drank heavy, I had very high BP. I took a calcium channel blocker called Verapamil. It worked very well for me, and I had no side effects from it. (BP went to normal after I quit drinking and lost some weight)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    When I drank heavy, I had very high BP. I took a calcium channel blocker called Verapamil. It worked very well for me, and I had no side effects from it. (BP went to normal after I quit drinking and lost some weight)
    I'm taking Verapamil for exertion headaches. Seems to be working great and I have noticed no sides whatsoever. I was never diagnosed with high BP, but sometimes I could feel my heart pounding through my chest. This does not happen with Verapamil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shugga View Post
    I'm taking Verapamil for exertion headaches. Seems to be working great and I have noticed no sides whatsoever. I was never diagnosed with high BP, but sometimes I could feel my heart pounding through my chest. This does not happen with Verapamil.
    I get those same feelings sometimes. They come and go. I will ask my dr. about verapamil.
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    Drop the caffene, increase your fiber, start 5 grams Fish oils (Omega 3s) per day and talk to your doctor about a mild diuretic like HCTZ (its generic and cheap). HCTZ is better tolerated than B-blockers...I only use those post hear attack. ACE inhibitor would be another option. CoQ10 is another important supplement for cardiac function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorJohn View Post
    Drop the caffene, increase your fiber, start 5 grams Fish oils (Omega 3s) per day and talk to your doctor about a mild diuretic like HCTZ (its generic and cheap). HCTZ is better tolerated than B-blockers...I only use those post hear attack. ACE inhibitor would be another option. CoQ10 is another important supplement for cardiac function.
    Good to see you back if this is the Dr John.

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    This is actually the 2nd Doctor John. I didn't realize there was another Dr. John when I registered. The screen names are slightly different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorJohn View Post
    This is actually the 2nd Doctor John. I didn't realize there was another Dr. John when I registered. The screen names are slightly different.
    Welcome on board then
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    People respond differently to each medication. I've also had mostly bad experiences with B-blockers. Many people are fine on a mild diuretic like HCTZ, its still first line, in low dose, for hypertension in most individuals. If your prone to dehydration, it may not be the best choice as stated above. As Dr. John said, ARBs have also been very well tolerated.

    Thanks, I will certainly explore the anti-aging sections as I want to avoid certain topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorJohn View Post
    People respond differently to each medication. I've also had mostly bad experiences with B-blockers. Many people are fine on a mild diuretic like HCTZ, its still first line, in low dose, for hypertension in most individuals. If your prone to dehydration, it may not be the best choice as stated above. As Dr. John said, ARBs have also been very well tolerated.

    Thanks, I will certainly explore the anti-aging sections as I want to avoid certain topics.

    Hi DoctorJohn;
    We are sorely missing a presence of dedicated doctor on this board.
    I hope you find a time to spend with us.

    We are staying away from steroid use topics.

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    Thanks Jansz. I will pop in when I can to read and respond. Looks like there are several knowledgable people already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorJohn View Post
    Thanks Jansz. I will pop in when I can to read and respond. Looks like there are several knowledgable people already.
    But they do not look close to the way you look.
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    I still lift hard but no more competitions. Concentrating on my medical practice and my involvement coaching & as ringside physician in MMA.
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