Long Readbut Will Make You Think Twice About Fish Oils !!
- 10-19-2007, 09:03 PM
Is this supplement a complete solution
Total EFA Junior
500 mg, 90 softgels $11.24
Item Catalog Number: 31093
Health From The Sun The Total EFA Juniorô supplies the daily needs of your children for essential fatty acids (EFAs) in an ideal ratio of omega-3 and omega-6.* Essential fatty acids are nutrients which children must obtain fro foods or dietary supplements.
The Total EFA Junior is nutritionally complete with omega-6 GLA from Borage seed oil, omega-3 ALA from flaxseed oil and omega-3 EPA and DHA from Fish oil, plus omega-9 fatty acids. The easy to swallow 500 mg softgel is a convenient way for your children to get a comprehensive, well-balanced blend of EFA nutritional oils.
Serving Size 1 softgel
Alpha-Linolenic Acid [ALA] (omega-3) 91 mg
Docosahexaenoic Acid [DHA] (omega-3) 18 mg
Eicosapentaenoic Acid [EPA] (omega-3) 28 mg
Gamma-Linolenic Acid [GLA] (omega-6) 40 mg
Linoleic Acid (omega-6) 86 mg
Oleic Acid (omega-9) 70 mg
Ingredients: certified organic flaxseed oil, borage seed oil, fish oil, gelatin, glycerin, water and mixed tocopherols.
Dosage and Use
Children under three, empty contents of one softgel and mix with food.
Three to seven years, one to two softgels daily.
Eight to ten, two to three softgels.
Over ten, three to four softgels.
- 10-24-2007, 10:58 PM
The authors distinction that LA and ALA have the main biological functions (95%), as opposed to GLA, EPA, and DHA's minor roles, is interesting.
As well, the small prevalence of unadulterated LA and ALA in our natural diet.
Is this guy talking out of his ass, or may there be some truth to this? I'm not a big fan of authoritatively shooting down arguments.
LOL Yes, I just quoted myself.
- 10-25-2007, 08:07 AM
09-24-2012, 11:49 PM
Bump for nuclear ...
09-26-2012, 11:41 AM
I don't know if this was mentioned already in this thread, but people shouldn't worry about balancing their EFA's at all when supplementing (i.e. balancing omega 3 with 6).Most diets are already ultra high in omega-6, unless you completely stay away from omega-6 rich veggies/grains and ONLY eat grass-fed beef.
I used to use Udo's oil because it's balanced, but then realized that it's not necessary since omega 6 is plentiful in our food, if not too abundant.
I only use omega 3 fish oil from - Stronger Faster Healthier
They also have a great testing kit you can buy, to see if you're levels are correct/optimal:Omega-3 Index Assay - Stronger Faster Healthier
09-26-2012, 12:16 PM
09-26-2012, 04:28 PM
09-27-2012, 04:21 PM
09-27-2012, 06:47 PM
Due.to.evolution and toxic intervention from.modern men our.bodys are no.longer tolerating that of esikimo or.innuit lifestyle. Its back firing on majority of.clients and cases I am dealing with. To comprehend this.go.against general.principles and why everything i.have been mentioning almost a decade ago is.coming to.forefront of.medicine..Originally Posted by Gutterpump
09-28-2012, 10:18 AM
I don't live in the arctic though, and I am sure that I'm not living an innuit lifestyle. I don't eat only fish all day long and live in igloos or hunt. And I don't megadose omega 3 either.
I'm still confused here??? I think we're on two different topics possibly.
09-28-2012, 11:10 AM
Uh, no it's not. Matrix, I'm going to say this the nicest way possible: get over yourself. You're not in the forefront of medicine. Your holier than thou attitude is tiresome sometimes. People come to this forum with questions and your standard response is that their Dr is an idiot or their clinic sucks or whatever. To my knowledge, you haven't published any of these 'ideas' of yours. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.Originally Posted by The Matrix
As you know from our previous conversations, I do medical research for a living, and am a published author in the area of spinal cord injury. Until your ideas can stand up to a peer review process, please don't portray the image that the info you present is anything other than your opinion. I also am concerned that you use this forum, albeit in a discreet fashion, to drum up business for yourself. I haven't given much time thinking about the ethics of this, but it seems a bit shady to me.
09-28-2012, 01:40 PM
Whether it be mental or whatever, I like taking fish oil. I think it helps my thinking and dose help my old creaky knees from years of skateboarding.
10-03-2012, 01:35 PM
10-03-2012, 02:15 PM
To his defense, he does know a lot - practices what he preaches, and is pretty cutting edge - and has helped many people.
But I still would like a clear answer as to why supplementing with a bit of omega 3 is bad. Not talking about mega dosing here. Also would like to discuss why people recommend supplementing with a balanced omega 3:6 ratio when omega 6 is overly abundant in most people's diets (whereas omega 3 is not).
10-03-2012, 03:26 PM
Hey gutter, he's not licensed or certified in anything and the people he 'helps' are under the care of a physician, not him. Granted he does have a good bit of knowledge, but anyone can get that if they read enough. The thing that gives me the red ass is his 'i had this person do this' or 'i had the doc do this.' he does none of that, the physician does.Originally Posted by Gutterpump
Any recommendations he may have HAVE to be signed off on by a physician. If something goes wrong, it's the doc's ass, not his. Do we really know that any of his cutting edge ideas are his? Or does he find them in obscure journals somewhere? Who knows. If these ideas are indeed his, all he has to do is find a doc to co-author an article and submit it to a journal. If it's that cutting edge, it will get published.
I respect your opinion gutter, but IMNHO, I think he's taking credit for other people work and passing it off as his own. Don't get me started on using the forum looking for business. That's about as unethical as it gets.
Bottom line s that he does nothing, the docs do. He writes no orders or scripts and takes care of no one.
That's all I have to say...
10-03-2012, 04:11 PM
10-03-2012, 04:20 PM
I hear what you're saying, and already knew these things. I've chatted on the phone with him. He works with a Dr in PA as a consultant...and he will consult with patients directly - in realtime - to tweak their protocols as well. I am not just speaking about HRT protocols, but general supplementation, etc. I don't see what's wrong with consulting. It's the same as if you or I paid for a personal trainer or nutritional consultant - if we were doing a show. We pay someone we trust to get the job done...and I'd rather pay someone who has the longevity and the know-how, over someone with only school to back them up and isn't on HRT or doesn't have an athletic background. For this reason, I also hold Dr. John very highly. He has both backgrounds in HRT and sports.
HAN/Matrix has been through it all before! With himself, and many many others. Because of this, he is a wealth of knowledge. I've even thought about charging for my own services as a consultant for nutrition/general health/fitness. The longer we're in this game, the more knowledgeable we become through practice and helping others.
10-03-2012, 04:30 PM
10-03-2012, 04:42 PM
10-03-2012, 05:31 PM
if part of what you do is nutrition/supplement consulting, then for christ's sake man, there's a million certs out there, some of which are very good. get one. if you want to consult in hrt, a degree in biology or even neurobiology would give you credibility. if you want people to REALLY pay attention to what you're saying, get some letters after your name. i'll use Zir Red as an example here. Dude's got a PhD in exercise science or kinesiology, i can't remember which. anyone want to debate programming or exercise technique/selection with him? and if you have seminars lined up, great. that's all resume food dude, and that's exactly what you need for what you're trying to do.
we all hand out advice around here. hell, i spend most of my time in the training sections and pass out advice. but i never take credit for any of the advice i give out. can you say the same? and if you want people to take you seriously, for christ's sake, write a coherent sentence. i understand you're on your phone but i can't follow wtf you're trying to say half the time.
10-03-2012, 07:11 PM
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