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    OK...tender nipples


    the short of it..

    i had a lump under my left nipple for a couple yrs..

    its still htere, sometimes aching..mamogram...negative

    IF estrogen is NOT elevated..assume 27
    IF prolactin is NOT elevated.......around 9

    what the hell is my damage, and will an AI fix it? how to tell which to use?? OR....COULD I JUST BE REALLY ESTROGEN OR PROLACTIN SENSITIVE CAUSING THE GYNO????

    CAN ANYONE OFFER INSIGHT??

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    the short of it..

    i had a lump under my left nipple for a couple yrs..

    its still htere, sometimes aching..mamogram...negative

    IF estrogen is NOT elevated..assume 27
    IF prolactin is NOT elevated.......around 9

    what the hell is my damage, and will an AI fix it? how to tell which to use?? OR....COULD I JUST BE REALLY ESTROGEN OR PROLACTIN SENSITIVE CAUSING THE GYNO????

    CAN ANYONE OFFER INSIGHT??

    phats
    My last blood test; post #62
    Jan's BloodTest April13/2007
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    Estradiol=29(< or = 29) pg/mL so it is within range and close to yours 27

    Estradiol Free=0.75(< or = 0.45)

    it is almost twice of what it should be
    0.75/0.45=1.67
    67% over the range

    You may have similar situation.
    You will newer know until you test.
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    I increased my Liquidex from 0.5cc to 0.6cc E3D


    Next week I should get EstroEssence results, that will open next can of worms.
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    There is few possible reasons for gyno, other than E2.

    I seen them listed on one of the posts but forgot where and what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    My last blood test; post #62
    Jan's BloodTest April13/2007
    attachment positions 60-62
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attac...aug30-2007.jpg

    Estradiol=29(< or = 29) pg/mL so it is within range and close to yours 27

    Estradiol Free=0.75(< or = 0.45)

    it is almost twice of what it should be
    0.75/0.45=1.67
    67% over the range

    You may have similar situation.
    You will newer know until you test.
    ============================== =======
    I increased my Liquidex from 0.5cc to 0.6cc E3D


    Next week I should get EstroEssence results, that will open next can of worms.
    ============================== =========

    There is few possible reasons for gyno, other than E2.

    I seen them listed on one of the posts but forgot where and what they are.
    Down steam of improply metabolized estrone can cause this as well. I have gyno and my e2 had been low or dead on. It was found that my estrogen metbaolism was very off. As indicated by estroessence test.
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    mmmm, weird its only one nipple.....

    mihgt be easier for a doc to script adex, then to do lots of tests....speaking of which...do benefits usually cover A-dex...cause it is $$$$ might use nolva instead otherwise....

    or get it myself cheaper??

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    Nolva is better if you already have gyno anyway I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CF10 View Post
    Nolva is better if you already have gyno anyway I thought.
    i had itch nips and every thing was dead on they found my body was metabolisimg estrogen improperly adding hidden estrogen domaince. Taking DIM and SAM-e now to open up the blockage. I haev a COMT defieincy from what I have no clue may be genetic

    your progesterone may be high too
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    yeah...****.. i wrote down one of thos P tests and it was normal...which one i had tho....lol

    progesterone, or pregnelone...

    i was 1.7umol?....range .7-4.7
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    after visting lef.org...looks like progesterone test....lol
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    interesting.... since we cant get an E2 up in Canada...??

    Estrodiol is too high. Ideally estradiol should be in the range of 35-105pmol/l for a man of any age. Too much testosterone is being converted to estrone by aromatase. Take zinc and nettle root extract and Chrysin & progesterone ( possibly Arimidex). Take Indole 3 Carbinol to break estrodiol to weaker 2OHE estrogen.

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    so my 104pmol is high....althought the range is <220

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    PROGESTERONE....JUST FOUND THIS..

    my range of .7-4.7pmol

    yours is
    0.3-1.2ng/ml

    mine equals 0.55ng....so this is not it...

    im going to flow with info in 3 days at the urologist...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    PROGESTERONE....JUST FOUND THIS..

    my range of .7-4.7pmol

    yours is
    0.3-1.2ng/ml

    mine equals 0.55ng....so this is not it...

    im going to flow with info in 3 days at the urologist...lol
    2/16 ratio could be out of wack like mine was..What about shbg inrelationship to e2?
    you can have shbg of 20 and e2 of 30 and still have issues because free e is too high
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    Shbg 27 I Think....
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    Shbg 27 I Think....
    My improved table, post #40

    You need
    weekly testosterone about 155mg/week
    best if E3d or E2D

    Jan's BloodTest April13/2007
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    id love for 155mg/wk.....wishful prescription maybe??

    3 days!!
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