New Lab Results (need help with proper course of action)

Mbmartin

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Hey guys,

Here's my latest lab results:

This is three days after a 60mg shot of testosterone cypionate:
Total Testosterone: 22.4 (range 10-30)
Free Testosterone 778 (range 300-800)
Bioavailable testosterone: 18.9 (range 10-20)

Estradiol: <100 (range <200). I can't get the ultra-sensitive test here in Vancouver.

SHBG: 11 (range 10-40). This one keeps dropping lower and lower. I don't know what to do about it. The funny thing is that the only changes I made were healthy ones, but they all result in lower SHBG; I only eat complex carbohydrates now (except PWO), I take in tons of fish oils, and I brought my thyroid into the normal range.

DHEA-S: 3.9 (range 5-18). This one has been steadily dropping lower and lower as well, and has finally dropped below the normal range. I don't know where to get DHEA though, because I live in Canada.

AM Cortisol: 850 (range 300-800).

TSH was 0.78 (range 0.3-5.0). They cancelled my FT3 and FT4 request for the fourth time, citing "insufficient explanation as to why the tests are needed." I presume these are expensive tests so they don't want to run them without a special order (even though my doctor wrote down "hypothyroidism")

I have since changed my regiment to the following:
25mg of HC/day
100mcg of T4, 10mcg of T3/day
50mg of depo-testosterone e3d
Arimidex dosage is still up in the air. Because my SHBG is so low I don't really know how to dose it, and I keep going too low or too high. I'm going to try 0.25mg ed and see how it goes.

So really I'm looking for some advice regarding what to do as I still have no libido and morning erections are few and far between. Cognitive function is much improved with the T4/T3 combo, however.
 

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can doc get u a prescription for dhea or can u get pregnolone?

your e2 might be too low, its hard to tell with that range
 
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Hey guys,

Here's my latest lab results:

This is three days after a 60mg shot of testosterone cypionate:
Total Testosterone: 22.4 (range 10-30)
Free Testosterone 778 (range 300-800)
Bioavailable testosterone: 18.9 (range 10-20)

Estradiol: <100 (range <200). I can't get the ultra-sensitive test here in Vancouver.

SHBG: 11 (range 10-40). This one keeps dropping lower and lower. I don't know what to do about it. The funny thing is that the only changes I made were healthy ones, but they all result in lower SHBG; I only eat complex carbohydrates now (except PWO), I take in tons of fish oils, and I brought my thyroid into the normal range.

DHEA-S: 3.9 (range 5-18). This one has been steadily dropping lower and lower as well, and has finally dropped below the normal range. I don't know where to get DHEA though, because I live in Canada.

AM Cortisol: 850 (range 300-800).

TSH was 0.78 (range 0.3-5.0). They cancelled my FT3 and FT4 request for the fourth time, citing "insufficient explanation as to why the tests are needed." I presume these are expensive tests so they don't want to run them without a special order (even though my doctor wrote down "hypothyroidism")

I have since changed my regiment to the following:
25mg of HC/day
100mcg of T4, 10mcg of T3/day
50mg of depo-testosterone e3d
Arimidex dosage is still up in the air. Because my SHBG is so low I don't really know how to dose it, and I keep going too low or too high. I'm going to try 0.25mg ed and see how it goes.

So really I'm looking for some advice regarding what to do as I still have no libido and morning erections are few and far between. Cognitive function is much improved with the T4/T3 combo, however.
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just tellin us what we cant get????

nevermind....just read your other part
"Arrange trip across the border, may be worth the effort.

I hope we do not follow Canada with health care, scary."


i can get DHEA if needed...
 
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just tellin us what we cant get????

nevermind....just read your other part
"Arrange trip across the border, may be worth the effort.

I hope we do not follow Canada with health care, scary."


i can get DHEA if needed...
then help your neighbor
 

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IF HE ASKS...I can point him in the right direction....
 
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Haha, of course I would like to know, and I'd appreciate any help I can get.

Of bigger concern to me is my E2 and SHBG levels, and what to do about them when I cannot test for anything under 100 (range <220)
 
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Haha, of course I would like to know, and I'd appreciate any help I can get.

Of bigger concern to me is my E2 and SHBG levels, and what to do about them when I cannot test for anything under 100 (range <220)
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To raise SHBG drink soy milk.

Furthermore, in men with low levels of SHBG, consumption of a soymilk powder providing about 69 mg of isoflavones daily substantially increased their SHBG concentrations, an effect not observed in men with higher initial SHBG levels.
 

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are your free and total numbers reversed maybe???
 
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Lol no, those are the proper ranges. The tests are done using different units than in the US.
 

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It would help if you put in the units I don't see a problem with your SHBG to E2 if your E2 is pmol/l and you div. it by 3.671 at 100 your 27 in my units pg/ml and your less then 100 so you can be even lower. If you have night time and morning wood don't try to lower it. If you don't then try .25mgs every 3 days of Arimidex until wood starts takes about 10 days to 2 weeks. Keep taking the arimidex but if wood stops your going to low. So stop the Arimidex until it starts back that day go back on the .25 mgs but take it every 4 or 5 days. Between wood and blood work your levels should be good.

The rest of your program looks good to me if you try Arimidex you will get your sex life back just ask Hardasnails.
Today he has killer wood.
Hey guys,

Here's my latest lab results:

This is three days after a 60mg shot of testosterone cypionate:
Total Testosterone: 22.4 (range 10-30)
Free Testosterone 778 (range 300-800)
Bioavailable testosterone: 18.9 (range 10-20)

Estradiol: <100 (range <200). I can't get the ultra-sensitive test here in Vancouver.

SHBG: 11 (range 10-40). This one keeps dropping lower and lower. I don't know what to do about it. The funny thing is that the only changes I made were healthy ones, but they all result in lower SHBG; I only eat complex carbohydrates now (except PWO), I take in tons of fish oils, and I brought my thyroid into the normal range.

DHEA-S: 3.9 (range 5-18). This one has been steadily dropping lower and lower as well, and has finally dropped below the normal range. I don't know where to get DHEA though, because I live in Canada.

AM Cortisol: 850 (range 300-800).

TSH was 0.78 (range 0.3-5.0). They cancelled my FT3 and FT4 request for the fourth time, citing "insufficient explanation as to why the tests are needed." I presume these are expensive tests so they don't want to run them without a special order (even though my doctor wrote down "hypothyroidism")

I have since changed my regiment to the following:
25mg of HC/day
100mcg of T4, 10mcg of T3/day
50mg of depo-testosterone e3d
Arimidex dosage is still up in the air. Because my SHBG is so low I don't really know how to dose it, and I keep going too low or too high. I'm going to try 0.25mg ed and see how it goes.

So really I'm looking for some advice regarding what to do as I still have no libido and morning erections are few and far between. Cognitive function is much improved with the T4/T3 combo, however.
 

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