HCG vs Clomid for TRT
- 11-01-2007, 02:46 PM
Be careful trying to take yourself off of Klonopin. I have tried several times over the years and have never been able to do so. I hate the fact that I have to rely on this drug, but I have to be realistic about it, too. As some of you know, few things can wreck your life faster than not being able to sleep.
Klonopin has a very long half life...around 27 hrs IIRC. If I were to try again, I would probably gradually move towards meds with shorter half lives....and then at the end try something herbal/natural.
- 11-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Thanks, yeah, I use Klonopin to sleep and tried lowering the dose and add benedryl and then added in ZMA and it didnt work. Not sure if its all in my head or not but if I dont take Klonopin before bed i dont sleep
11-07-2007, 11:22 AM
I am in the middle of stoping ambien, I think thats in the class of benzo's like klonopin. Anyways, even with a slow taper this is just hell...klonopin was easier but thats not saying much took being off that for a few weeks to get back to normal. I think it has somewhere near a 40 hour half life in the body.
11-29-2007, 07:28 PM
Just got back from the urologist on month #2 of my HCG therapy. Spent the last 30 days on HCG only 500 IU 3x week. Total T moved up a bit to 330 and Free T went from 60 to 90. Unfortunately Estrogen went from 23 to 34. Going to try one month at 250 IU 5x a week, and if that doesn't do much, switch to clomid. Any thoughts?
11-29-2007, 07:37 PM
Deal with your estrodial.
At Quest Diagnostics do this test
Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
FreeE2 (0.45 - 0.6)
use Liquidex on the other day, use insuline syringe with cut off needle to measure exactly.
Start with 0.25 - 0.3cc, that is 25 to 30 units
(but with current testing you do not know if you are high on E2, it may be close enough when you use the test I suggested)
Use this test
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
you should be at the top in BioAvailable
If you are missing
add injectable Testosterone (forever).
Before you start on injectable Testosterone take care of your thyroid.
Test FreeT3, add Armour Thyroid if low, get it to the top range.
11-29-2007, 09:14 PM
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