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  1. Wellbutrin


    Thinking about asking my Dr. if I could try this for a libido boost.....thoughts?


  2. I had a female friend who was on that for depression. She had a hard time getting off of it. I'd be careful.
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  3. Are you being treated for depression or high blood pressure?

    Wellbutrin is one of the most effective pharmaceuticals for several different afflictions I have ever used. Great stuff.
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  4. dsade-

    my dr. was thinking of giving it to me for ADD among other things. Mind sharing why you think it's such a great drug? I'm interested in learning about it.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rick055 View Post
    dsade-

    my dr. was thinking of giving it to me for ADD among other things. Mind sharing why you think it's such a great drug? I'm interested in learning about it.
    Dopamine potentiator and reuptake inhibitor. Great for breaking reward-based habits (like smoking, drugs, etc.) but can also potentiate habits to be formed if you are not careful.

    It has anti-depressant and mood-enhancement qualities, helps increase alertness, helps one lose weight, and other favourable properties.

    Works great with some stims.
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  6. What stims? You mean like effexor? Even effexor makes me sleepy.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Dopamine potentiator and reuptake inhibitor. Great for breaking reward-based habits (like smoking, drugs, etc.) but can also potentiate habits to be formed if you are not careful.

    It has anti-depressant and mood-enhancement qualities, helps increase alertness, helps one lose weight, and other favourable properties.

    Works great with some stims.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by aculpep View Post
    What stims? You mean like effexor? Even effexor makes me sleepy.
    Effexor is not a stim. I mean something that affects catecholamines (green tea, caffeine, tyrosine, etc.)
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  8. wellbutrin is an antidepressant with a lower tendancy for sexual sides, although they can still be present, I wouldn't ever use it for a libido booster, maybe to help you feel better, but not about sexy time

  9. Quote Originally Posted by greenwing7 View Post
    wellbutrin is an antidepressant with a lower tendancy for sexual sides, although they can still be present, I wouldn't ever use it for a libido booster, maybe to help you feel better, but not about sexy time
    Boosts libido for me...as well as amplifying intensity.
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  10. This is some good info at MM about Wellbutrin and its libido enhancing capabilities. It is also supposed to help with staying power and more intense orgasms. I don't have depression (most of the time) but wanted to try it for its libido enhancement (I could use a lot more of that) and for the mood enhancement.

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Are you being treated for depression or high blood pressure?

    Wellbutrin is one of the most effective pharmaceuticals for several different afflictions I have ever used. Great stuff.
    I am not being treated for either. I just want something to help me feel motivated as well as the libido/CNS enhancement. The things that fit this catagory that I have found OTC are:
    Chocamine
    PEA
    Phenibut
    L-Tyrosine
    ALCAR
    Geranium
    L-dopa
    Yohimbine

    Want something a little stronger.

  13. I would be REALLY REALLY careful about going on wellbutrin or any stim related drug, especially if you have HRT, thyroid, or adrenal issues.

    It really f-ed up my system because of my underlying adrenal issues. DO NOT use it for a libido boost. Fix the underlying cause or your just going to make yourself worse down the road.

    I dont mean to sound so pessimistic...but I was on wellbutrin for about 2 years due to depression and low libido issues. At first I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, because it worked great....i thought. But I never resolved my low test/thyroid and adrenal issues so I am now in a much worse boat.

    Dr. M has also talked about its impact on the adrenals and such.

  14. Good info. I am already on TRT (steroid induced hypogonadism). I have been tested for adrenal fatigue (still unsure of the test results) and thyroid issues and all came back fine (according to my retarded Dr.).

  15. Quote Originally Posted by aculpep View Post
    What stims? You mean like effexor? Even effexor makes me sleepy.

    Don't forget that there is supposedly a "stimulating dose" of effexor.

    If I take anything less than 150 mgs of the XR, you can write me off for the day.

    225 mgs XR and i'm energized.

    25 mgs XR, great for sleepy time, better than trazodone IMO.

  16. they don't make a 25mg xr

  17. Wellbutrin, a cheaply avaliable and effective Indian Generic for delivary on the net, has far less, I stand by this in multiple use studies, potential for negative side effects than the SSRI antidepressants.

    Yes, it may make one slightly manic,in a focused motivated action sense way, but that's usually far preferable to the flatline emotion/weight gaining and deadening d1ck of the above, Wellbutrin and Deprenyl and Modafinil combos, achievement ,

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by greenwing7 View Post
    they don't make a 25mg xr
    Whatever it was, it was the smallest dose...37.5 or some odd number like that.

    Anyways, point being that while a lower dose made me sleepy a higher dose energized me. Unfortunately, it also upped the BP, too.

  19. I have depression and have taken almost every drug and drug combo out there. I have fought depression and bi-polar for over 15 years. I totaly disagree that Wellbuterin is a libido stim. It has the lowest % of sexual side effects of any depression med. It reduces the potential of getting ED or having low libido but I dont beleive it increases it in any way.

    I really cant beleive a aDr. would scribe it for low sex drive. Check hormones doc. I'll bet that is the issue for the libido issue. If your depressed, Wellbutrin is a clean drug (make sure you dont have any siezure issues). Stay far away from old meds. Prozac, Paxil etc.

    If you f-ed in the head I dealt with it, taken it, done that and doing it again. I was at the point of electo thearapy or buying a 38 mag.

    I'm on TRT and depression is best it has ever been.

  20. I found all this at (these are bits and pieces cut & pasted):

    Salon.com Sex | Wonderful Wellbutrin?

    In a 1997 report, published in Clinical Pharmacological Therapies, researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham gave 107 depression sufferers one of four antidepressants: Wellbutrin or three SSRIs -- Prozac, Paxil or Zoloft. Among those taking the SSRIs, 73 percent complained of sex-impairing side effects. Only 14 percent of the Wellbutrin group reported sex problems, while 77 percent said the drug "heightened sexual function."

    At Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, a team led by R. Taylor Seagraves, M.D., a professor of psychiatry, gave Wellbutrin to 66 women, ages 23 to 65, who had experienced low or no libido for an average of six years. All 66 took a placebo for six weeks, then the drug for eight weeks. At the end of the placebo phase of the study, the group averaged 0.9 sexual encounters. But by the end of treatment with Wellbutrin, the figure had more than doubled to 2.3. Extent of sexual arousal also increased significantly, and number of sexual fantasies more than doubled (0.7 to 1.8). "Before starting treatment," Seagraves says, "100 percent of the women were dissatisfied with their level of sexual desire, but by the end of the [Wellbutrin] treatment phase, 40 percent reported feeling satisfied."

    In our study, Wellbutrin had a definite pro-sexual effect in people with sexual dysfunction," Alabama researcher Roberta May explains. "Our study -- and the others to date -- are not enough to establish Wellbutrin as a routine treatment for sex problems, but I see no reason not to try it. As medications go, it's a pretty benign drug."

    The University of Minnesota's Coleman agrees: "There is now enough research to suggest that Wellbutrin might be a useful treatment for sexual dysfunction.

  21. Rick055

    To be honest every pharm. company and drug research company or blind study is under suspission IMO.

    I guess you can tell me what you are looking for or to achieve with Wellbutrin or other drug. Wellbutrin can and does have a stim effect (can ellivate BP) but not to a major extent unless your stim sensitive.

    Let me know what your prob is and I will be happy to see if I can help and give you my experience and opinions

  22. Quote Originally Posted by corndog View Post
    I have depression and have taken almost every drug and drug combo out there. I have fought depression and bi-polar for over 15 years. I totaly disagree that Wellbuterin is a libido stim. It has the lowest % of sexual side effects of any depression med. It reduces the potential of getting ED or having low libido but I dont beleive it increases it in any way.

    I really cant beleive a aDr. would scribe it for low sex drive. Check hormones doc. I'll bet that is the issue for the libido issue. If your depressed, Wellbutrin is a clean drug (make sure you dont have any siezure issues). Stay far away from old meds. Prozac, Paxil etc.

    If you f-ed in the head I dealt with it, taken it, done that and doing it again. I was at the point of electo thearapy or buying a 38 mag.

    I'm on TRT and depression is best it has ever been.
    When I got my Androgel fix it took over 6 months for my head to clear of depression.

  23. corndog-

    First of all, thanks. I have suffered from some depression and much anxiety over the years.

    That said, since I have started androgel about a week ago, I feel better already and have halved my celexa to 10 mgs a day.

    I also have some inattentive ADD (no hyperactivity) and don't respond really well to the stimulants (ritalin, concerta, adderal/XR).

    My primary goal would be for focus/ADD, especially if TRT continues to aleviate the anxiety/depression.

  24. Atypical depression is EXTREMELY complicated. Some things that help:

    Wellbutrin/Tyrosine combo...to support health Dopaminergic function

    TRT/DHEA/Pregnenolone/6-OXO...to support "healthy" hormone levels.

    Thyroid support...to ensure energy usage is abundant and fatigue does not disable your ability to function

    Something like ZMT with melatonin...to support healthy serotonin levels, crucial minerals, and provide for sounds sleep.

    Adreneric support (support health adrenaline/noradrenaline function)

    Thought process manipulation/control/visualization

    EDIT: Forgot cortisol control
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by rick055 View Post
    corndog-

    First of all, thanks. I have suffered from some depression and much anxiety over the years.

    That said, since I have started androgel about a week ago, I feel better already and have halved my celexa to 10 mgs a day.

    I also have some inattentive ADD (no hyperactivity) and don't respond really well to the stimulants (ritalin, concerta, adderal/XR).

    My primary goal would be for focus/ADD, especially if TRT continues to aleviate the anxiety/depression.
    Make sure your
    FreeT ~200-300
    FreeT3 is on top range
    FreeT4 is close to top range
    Estrodial is tested using correct test and is within range
    2/16 is in check
    Possibly use little Cortef

    You are going to feel like a new man in no time, guarantee.

    Just be persistent, consistent and accurate.
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