08-07-2007 01:51 PM
I suggest that you keep your health record here so it can be reviewed on as need basis
I noted that doctors have certain obligatory routines (I am sure well reasoned) that they feel obligated to try:
Originally Posted by anyman
clomid 2-3 months
hcg 2-3 months
transdermals year or two (with out hcg so your nuts are gone)
other experiments another year
then you graduated to T injections, HCG, Arimidex, pregnenolone cream, Armour and Cortef
as a patient you go nuts in mean time (literally, either killing your self or divorcing wife, quitting good job, loosing bussiness or else)
I do not know what to say ....................
With my personal history behind me,
history that I am not sure would apply to you,
seeing above tests I would do:
T injections, HCG, Arimidex, pregnenolone cream, Armour and Cortef
but you have to remember this is just another experiment.
With general opinion that it is better to have readings within range than being totally low, I would say that your chances are increased when you get you levels to desirable ##'s.
You need about 3grains of Armour/day (before retesting)
Your SHBG is low, usually one would try first Androgel, that is mostly because of daily applications. With your thyroid problems, Androgel is just another experiment that may not work.
Do your DepoT shots E2D or even every day, not really big deal.
hcg-250iu each shot
goal for TT=750
0.5cc/7*2=0.14cc=14units od Depo-T
Do the (T&hcg) shots as E2D or half dose every day.
Do SubQ shots with 31ga 3/10cc 5/16" long needle
around navel. Do (T&hcg) on same day the other day free.
prescription compounded pregnenolone cream
100mg/1gram, use 1gram/day
Lugol's solution 4-6 drops/day
Not sure if you will need scripts for
Cortef, Arimidex, Cialis but you should have it handy.
I suggest my usual supplements for other than E2 estrogens,
SUPER Omega 3 EPA/DHA and many other, I can post my list or I probably posted it on my thread.
Wait two to three months on this, your depression could possibly start lessening by then.
Do the blood test that I usually post, with the conditions that are also posted.
I would hope that by then you would be in better mental condition ready to tackle the harder to identify and treat your low cholesterol and anything else that hides behind low SHBG.
For me TT at higher level improved mental clarity and stability, (just do not ask my wife she my hold different opinion).
Hey, that is just another theory, Dr Shippen will come with something that fits you better.
Keep us informed of your progress.
08-07-2007 03:24 PM
An extremely helpful and insightful response. Thanks
Thanks for taking the time to write all this. There is much here to digest and think about. You're right about all the BS most Drs make us go through-like we can all just put our lives on hold for years while they fart around. We need more--many more--good doctors like Shippen, Crisler and Mariano.
Like I said- I'm tired of being tired and want a "normal" life back. Before my young kids are grown and only know Daddy as a crabby 'ol bastard. I need to work through mt bitterness and resentment, if possible. Getting tuned up might help quite a bit.
Originally Posted by JanSz
Similar Forum Threads
By The Matrix in forum Male Anti-Aging Medicine
Last Post: 06-04-2011, 11:27 PM
By anyman in forum Male Anti-Aging Medicine
Last Post: 06-05-2010, 08:43 PM
By Jayhawkk in forum Supplement Logs
Last Post: 10-14-2008, 12:40 AM
By Kaliman91 in forum Cycle Info
Last Post: 02-26-2004, 06:25 PM