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    contstipated..


    i read here last nite how one bro fixed one level, and his bowel problems were gone.....

    i have had "issues" for the past 4 yrs too....never fully feel completed, sometimes go for 2 days without "going"....

    my thyroid is good, so what is the deal here, COULD SOMETHING BE A MISS, CAUSING THIS??

    i have added more fibre and what not because i figured that was it...but nothing yet...

    im doin a rayovac kit tomorrow and get any clogs out and start fresh....see if that helps//

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    i read here last nite how one bro fixed one level, and his bowel problems were gone.....

    i have had "issues" for the past 4 yrs too....never fully feel completed, sometimes go for 2 days without "going"....

    my thyroid is good, so what is the deal here, COULD SOMETHING BE A MISS, CAUSING THIS??

    i have added more fibre and what not because i figured that was it...but nothing yet...

    im doin a rayovac kit tomorrow and get any clogs out and start fresh....see if that helps//

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    E2 can cause high or low can cause it so can high progestrone or low cortisol.

    high or low e2 = low serotonin,
    high e2 = adrenals are pushed harder, lowers thyroid out put
    low e2 = speeds up thyroid, depeleting adrenals

    Two things needed to make you crap
    serotonin and acteylcholine both of which are affected by e2 imbalances
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    hey doc.....scads of water ...no problem there...over 4 litres..

    when i do go, i wipe FOREVER....sucks lots...
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    hey doc.....scads of water ...no problem there...over 4 litres..

    when i do go, i wipe FOREVER....sucks lots...
    Are you on a multi vitamin high in iron?
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    i take a multi....have to check iron...what u consider high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    i take a multi....have to check iron...what u consider high?
    Im not sure what is considered high, but my brother had a similar problem and after some tests they told him his iron level was too high. He tried alot of fiber before with the same results as you. He has since switched his multi-v to one without Iron and within a week (i believe) was back to normal.
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    i shall check... i just started the multi tho...so now that i think of it...that not it...

    no doc... no roids.....

    i smell like garbage the wife says...i gotta agree...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    Unless you have an iron deficiency, as with a GI bleed, American men should not take supplemental iron.
    I had heard that before but hadnt researched it myself, but I personaly have never supplemented iron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    Even in your multi vit/mineral?
    I got some wal mart brand that is without Iron, just because i had heard it wasnt good to supplement. Not to mention I am not to religeous with taking it because i tend to break out pretty bad, I usually only take it when I am on a diet i feel isnt giving me everything i need.
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    well, an update....my guts must be officially facked...

    i did the royvac kit (citrimag, 3 dulcolax tabs, dulcolax supp)

    i lost 6 lbs, so it cleaned me out a bit, but i still felt i had to knead my stomach to "push" by some road block....i go, then it just stops and i feel more in there...so i knead my stomach and sometimes a big bout of gas comes out...then i continue to poop....
    i thought with citrimag i would not need to do this, but i had to 3 times.......my wife says im ****ed...lol

    gunna make an app't, just to get checked out...i think i may have either
    a. blockage
    b. kink

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    adrenals and thyroid are the number one culprit here in my book.

    when i feel low on my cortef in the mornings, like after a 'rough' night or doing something a bit overtaxing the day before....or anxious....i dont have my morning healthy like usual. if i take a touch extra cortef on a stress dose: i go back to normal....

    course im on armour as well so its probably just not getting into the cells. but id get yours checked.
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    thyroid is good.... if my adrenals were off...would i not feel more exhausted or somthing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    thyroid is good.... if my adrenals were off...would i not feel more exhausted or somthing?

    phats
    If adrenals turn out okay, try cut out foods and c if u improve on certain diets, i have huge bowel issues but if i stop eating gluten it gets alot better, not cured but alot better. Never been intolerant to gluten in my entire life then 18 month ago bam.. ****in propecia lol (my universal blame drug).
    However on Tgel symptoms got alot better to, maybe thats got to do with less inflamation ?

    My exp tells my bowel issues need to be sorted fast, u dont want a chronic bad stomach its really hard to feel healthy with a bad stomach no matter how much T u have etc. I have 0 libido but that dont bather me half as much as my gut issues. So go c a good GI doc.
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    What are your BM's like when you do have them?

    Hard or loose?

    Color?
    Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
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    Maybe due to your GI tract being acidic.

    I know Poseidon makes me poop like there is no tomorrow. It has quite a bit of buffering agents (alkaline).

    You might try Poseidon.
    Though - it sounds like you have an issue in your GI tract. Definitely go to a doctor (not sure if that's a proctologist or what).
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    BM are usually soft (i say like mcdonalds soft serve ice cream)and a light tan color??....rarely hard...when they are ther're like nuggets...dont even have to wipe it seems...lol, which i like compared to the other..

    thanks all

    phats

    so far i have not passed gas at all today, and i dont feel bloated..whether it be from no food (carbs) yesterday, or the BM drained me.... im revamping diet...may try keto...my diet is lackin either fibre, or fat, or both...
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    You might just need a motility agent i.e. reglan

    Make an appt to see a GI doctor and know for sure.
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    if i get my aldosterone checked, is it worth it?
    in general, not for bowel issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    Maybe due to your GI tract being acidic.

    I know Poseidon makes me poop like there is no tomorrow. It has quite a bit of buffering agents (alkaline).

    You might try Poseidon.
    Though - it sounds like you have an issue in your GI tract. Definitely go to a doctor (not sure if that's a proctologist or what).


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    Have you been on any large courses of antibiotics before the digestive problems occurred?

    If so, and I am betting you have been, you have killed the friendly flora in your gut. You need to replenish it with probiotics as Jansz is recommending.

    If you start the high quality probiotics and cut down on the refined carbohydrates you will restore the balance in the gut. Right now your probably are over run with Candida Yeast so I recommend the following:

    1. Get the Primal Defense Probiotics, if it is to expensive for your budget then go with Jarrows enteric coated probiotics.

    2. Eat low carb. Meats and green veggies, get plenty of fats.

    3. Optional: Do a Candida Cleanse.

    4. If you really feel you have a blockage go get a professional colonic done.

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    You will be amazed at how your bowel movements become regular with well formed stools that seem a mile long with little need for clean up.
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    i cant say i know aboutt he anti-biotic (fack i hate this memory...or lack thereof....)
    primal defense sounds good...

    startin mon Aug 6, a keto style diet....out with the carbs in with the fat...see if that does anything..

    aiming for atleast 30gm fibre/day....

    i wonder if my lack of dietary fat,fibre would be causing issues....although, im sure i got lots of fats in on my 3yr hiatus??

    incidently i had 2 REALLY good BM today.....had 2 tblspn benefibre and 15oz of carrots....maybe that helped??

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    i cant say i know aboutt he anti-biotic (fack i hate this memory...or lack thereof....)
    primal defense sounds good...

    startin mon Aug 6, a keto style diet....out with the carbs in with the fat...see if that does anything..

    aiming for atleast 30gm fibre/day....

    i wonder if my lack of dietary fat,fibre would be causing issues....although, im sure i got lots of fats in on my 3yr hiatus??

    incidently i had 2 REALLY good BM today.....had 2 tblspn benefibre and 15oz of carrots....maybe that helped??

    phats
    Phats,

    Good advice from the two posters above regarding the probiotics etc. I use Primal Defense myself and can attest to its quality. After revamping my diet and adding the probiotics, I experienced the mile-long solid dumps described above. It is a great feeling.

    However, I must caution you about jumping into the low-carb keto-style diet too quickly. Carbs, especially grains, generally make the stool softer. As a result, the bowel muscles do not have to work very hard to move stool through the system. When you transition to a low-carb diet after years of higher carb, the bowels are suddenly forced to shoulder a heavier work load in terms of moving stool but have not yet developed the muscle power to do so. This may exacerbate any problems you are currently having with constipation.

    I recommend easing into it over a period of a couple of weeks rather than jumping in cold turkey, the latter being the instinctual approach because we are all eager to make wide-sweeping and immediate changes when we are dissatisfied with our current situation. Be patient for the sake of your bowels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    i cant say i know aboutt he anti-biotic (fack i hate this memory...or lack thereof....)
    primal defense sounds good...

    startin mon Aug 6, a keto style diet....out with the carbs in with the fat...see if that does anything..

    aiming for atleast 30gm fibre/day....

    i wonder if my lack of dietary fat,fibre would be causing issues....although, im sure i got lots of fats in on my 3yr hiatus??

    incidently i had 2 REALLY good BM today.....had 2 tblspn benefibre and 15oz of carrots....maybe that helped??

    phats
    Refined carbs and sugars feed Candida Albicans yeast which then overgrows and prevents the friendly flora from repopulating.

    Eating low carb will starve those bastards and they will begin to die off. You may actually experience some symptoms of the die off, (google it), one of which is feeling tired, but this will pass.

    With regards to fiber. Be sure to eat LOTS of non starchy vegatables(no potatoes for a while).

    Don't be afraid to eat the fat in the meat either, but you should keep your ratio of omega 3 fats very high. I recommend 4-6 grams of Carlsons Finest Fish Oils per day or any other brand where you know the quality is good.
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    You will soon learn whether the constipation is due to dietary probelms or something else, simply by following these gentlemen's advice.

    I did a cleanse, have been using QUALITY probiotics for well over a year, and STILL have constipation issues. So not everyone is free and clear. This is a good first approach, but if it doesnt work after say a month or two....start checking adrenals and thyroid again. and any other hormonal imbalances.
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    Yep I agree with Mr V, it sounds like it could be a gut flora issue. Light coloured stools usually mean higher than normal billirubin as in Gilberts Syndrome and means your liver may be stressed. Makes sense that you would have a gut issue, because the gut dysbosis will stress your liver. I would do what the others have said and try a GOOD probiotic, and if that fails do a GOOD stool sample.

    In Australia we have a place called Bioscreen Metabolic Testing and they are the most thorough that I know of and they do testing from overseas also. I dont know what the equivilent of this would be in your country, but apparantly the "normal" stool tests are no where near thorough enough.

    There are a few things you can do to help the situation, but these will all be just stabbing in the dark, as you dont really know which microbes are overgrown, or which are undergrown, or if you even have a gut problem at all. Some need anti-biotics, digestive enzymes etc.......

    But you can try taking out all the sugar and go on a low carb diet for a short periof of time. Google "Anti candida diets". Also try drinking a few glasses of Soda water a day as this will help make your stomach more alkaline instead of acidic. One or 2 teaspoons of Xylitol a day can help too. With all of this stuff, i would be watching out for a mild negative effect to start with. If you get this, it means you have budged somthing and you should get an improvement after a few days.

    Again, seconding what Mr V mentioned, I would also do a colonic hydrotherapy session and see how you feel. The reason I say this is because the improvement can be felt with a day or two of having one and can really give you a clue as to if it is in fact a gut and or liver problem or not. I had one of these done with previously no libido, the day after a colonic, my libido was higher than its ever been in my life, though it only lasted for a couple of hours.

    But at the end of the day, I would go and see a GI specialist to check if nothing more serious is going on too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydee View Post
    Yep I agree with Mr V, it sounds like it could be a gut flora issue. Light coloured stools usually mean higher than normal billirubin as in Gilberts Syndrome and means your liver may be stressed. Makes sense that you would have a gut issue, because the gut dysbosis will stress your liver. I would do what the others have said and try a GOOD probiotic, and if that fails do a GOOD stool sample.

    In Australia we have a place called Bioscreen Metabolic Testing and they are the most thorough that I know of and they do testing from overseas also. I dont know what the equivilent of this would be in your country, but apparantly the "normal" stool tests are no where near thorough enough.

    There are a few things you can do to help the situation, but these will all be just stabbing in the dark, as you dont really know which microbes are overgrown, or which are undergrown, or if you even have a gut problem at all. Some need anti-biotics, digestive enzymes etc.......

    But you can try taking out all the sugar and go on a low carb diet for a short periof of time. Google "Anti candida diets". Also try drinking a few glasses of Soda water a day as this will help make your stomach more alkaline instead of acidic. One or 2 teaspoons of Xylitol a day can help too. With all of this stuff, i would be watching out for a mild negative effect to start with. If you get this, it means you have budged somthing and you should get an improvement after a few days.

    Again, seconding what Mr V mentioned, I would also do a colonic hydrotherapy session and see how you feel. The reason I say this is because the improvement can be felt with a day or two of having one and can really give you a clue as to if it is in fact a gut and or liver problem or not. I had one of these done with previously no libido, the day after a colonic, my libido was higher than its ever been in my life, though it only lasted for a couple of hours.

    But at the end of the day, I would go and see a GI specialist to check if nothing more serious is going on too.
    colonic hydrotherapy session

    Five years ago I had colonoscopy.
    Day before I was given some liquid to drink in small doses, that eventually cleaned me up for the next day morning.

    Would this clean-up process be equivalent to colonic hydrotheraphy?

    Nothing really to look forward to, on a way to hospital I thought I will soil my pants.

    I just got reminder from the same doctor, he would like to check me again, screw him.
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    Possibly I can squeze one question here,

    Why bacon is called processed food, (contain preservatives and nitrite)?

    All of the beacons?

    I like to eat raw becon,
    how to get one that is not processed?

    Is salt pork processed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    Possibly I can squeze one question here,

    Why bacon is called processed food, (contain preservatives and nitrite)?

    All of the beacons?

    I like to eat raw becon,
    how to get one that is not processed?

    Is salt pork processed?
    Bacon is treated with salt and nitrates. Technically nitrates are carcinogenic(cancer causing).

    NEVER eat pork raw....Never! Pigs/Hogs are a "bottom feeder" scavenger type animal. They are meant to eat waste and that is ultimately what you are eating.

    Israel will not allow a pig to even enter the country do to the old testament laws forbidding the eating of pork due to it being considered an "unclean" food. Stands to reason Israel is considered the healthiest country in he world. The US is way down on the list.

    Read Danial Rubin's book "Makers Diet".

    Do I eat pork? Sure, now and again, but it is certainly not my mainstay.
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    Bacon is typically smoked which would move it out of the "raw" classification.

    Trichinosis is the reason that pork should not be eaten raw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

    I believe the Jews do not eat any animal without a cloven hoof and pigs are not eaten since they do not chew cud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    That's why I cannot eat camel steak, either.
    I have eaten camel and it is not that bad. Alligator will never touch my lips again however. Nasty yellow meat and rubbery as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    REALLY??!! I was just kiddin'! I didn't know anyone, outside of extreme survival conditions, would do that. What were the circumstances?

    I think maybe the gator was just preprared badly. lol

    Last year I ate woodchuck. Remember, they eat what we eat. Very sweet meat. Delicious!

    Eaten a lot of beaver, too.
    I was in Nairobi, Kenya eating at a local favorite restaurant known as "The Carnivore". I ate a lot of unusual foods their that day.

    Growing up in rural Ohio I ate a lot of the local favorites that we killed ourselves. Groundhog, squirrel, deer, frog legs, and rabbit come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. V View Post
    Alligator will never touch my lips again however. Nasty yellow meat and rubbery as well.
    I had alligator while living in Fla. Popcorn fried and I hate to say it but "it tasted like chicken"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    colonic hydrotherapy session

    Five years ago I had colonoscopy.
    Day before I was given some liquid to drink in small doses, that eventually cleaned me up for the next day morning.

    Would this clean-up process be equivalent to colonic hydrotheraphy?

    Nothing really to look forward to, on a way to hospital I thought I will soil my pants.

    I just got reminder from the same doctor, he would like to check me again, screw him.
    LOL.....ah that made laugh.

    Dont think what your talking about would anywhere near as effective as a colonic. Your just talking about emptying your bowels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydee View Post
    LOL.....ah that made laugh.

    Dont think what your talking about would anywhere near as effective as a colonic. Your just talking about emptying your bowels.
    Are you saying that colonic cleans bowels more than what I got while cleaning before colonoscopy.

    My last poops were totally colorless.
    Definitely it felt drastic and brutal to me.

    If colonics clean even more I do not think I want to consider it.
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    i nver went colorless....just brown water the times i did go.

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    I thought of one more thing to add: Something that helped alleviate my constipation was taking in a good deal of maca. With the probiotics, maca, and plenty of fat in my low-carb diet, I have good bowel movements. If any one of those pieces drops out, things start to back up.

    Interestingly, maca is one of the best sources of natural iodine. The fact that maca consumption seems to be correlated with diminished constipation suggests that whatever mechanism caused my constipation stems from a hypothyroid situation.
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    What kind of probiotics do you take? You might need to adjust the formula slightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA View Post
    What kind of probiotics do you take? You might need to adjust the formula slightly.
    Not sure whether you were addressing this to me or the original poster, but I take Primal Defense by Garden of Life. I recommend getting it online as the price can get pretty out of control in stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    I didn't know that, but NICE LINK!
    Thank you, sir.
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    well, this past monday i started an ANABOLIC DIET (KETO)... and my guts are pretty good...

    have a good BM or two in the morning....no gas/bloat or nothing all day or night.....

    i MAY NOT have been getting enough fat in a day??

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