just got Iodine test results..
- 07-27-2007, 09:16 PM
just got Iodine test results..
Im currently under Dr. Johns care trying to figure out what looks like an adrenal/thyroid problem. As per his recomendation i started on 100mg of Iodoral/day. I decided to take the 24hour urinalasis prior to starting treatment just for my own curiosity.
A little backround- Im 26 work out regularly, fight MMA professionally, eat mostly fruits, vegetables, lean meats and fish. Obviously, my diet created a major iodine deficiency. Thought u guys might be curious, as I recall Dr. John saying he is pretty close to reccomending iodine supp. to all his patients.
Iodine Spot 0.020 Range- >0.149 mg/L
This test is for normal thyroid function and control of endemic goiter.
1)severe iodine deficiency is defined as a level of 0.025mg or less
2)moderate deficiency is definrd as a level of 0.025-0.050mg
3)mild deficiency is defined as a level of 0.050-0.100mg
4)boderline iodine deficiency is 0.100-0.150mg
5)For normal levels of thyroid hormones and control of endemic goiter under all physiological conditions, the thyroid needs levels of 0.150mg or greater
24hr Urine Loading Iodine/Iodide
Total Urine Vol 5,500 ml/24hr
I&I Loading 34 (low) range >44mg/24hr
I&I Saturation 69 (low) range >90% Total
Get your iodine levels checked guys!!
- 07-27-2007, 09:25 PM
Should we use both or one of them?
• IODINE PANEL - (2503)
• IODINE, URINE (9549) (38959X) - (24950P)
- 07-27-2007, 10:34 PM
NExt step is to have a paient test bad to good ratio of less then 2 and do an iodine test at the same time then run that person for one month on just iodoral and see if there is a drastic change in the ratio which I bet there will be !! Also to if you are on iodoral and have adrenal fatigue it you will need to have adrenal support because the iodoral will put extra stress on thyroid and adrenals..BAnk on if your iodine is low your estrogen metaoblism is WACKED too..Also need 3,000 mgs vitamin C and 700 mgs of magnesium, 1/2 tsp sea salt 2 times day to flush out the build up of toxins..Let me guess you do not or have not salted your foods in years or have used seasalts instead of iodized..Plus sweating all the tim and constantly pissing it out as well.. MY levels where worse then yours even
my I & I loading was 24 >44
and other saturation was freaken 45 !!
I was only put on 50 mgs of iodoral a day for 6 months then 1 pill for rest of my life LOL YOu are at 100 mgs SHESH...IF you ate fish I bet you have a hell of a detoxifcation reaction..
Plus 5,550 ml is a ridiculus amout of water to piss out in one day...every hear of hypoatremia. Perosnally I think this could have skewed the test results..I took a urine test and naturopathic told me not to drink any mroe then 1 liter of water 2 days before and during the test because drinking 2 gallons flooded the test results ..
Spot check I would agree with because if you consume that much water you are just flushing iodine right out as well as other nutrients that protect adrenals. Simple cutting back on water could take extra stress of your adrenals
07-27-2007, 11:13 PM
I actually tested as per the link u gave a while back hardasnails. You are right about my diet. Former bobybuilder/powerlifter/juicehead/idiot. Now Im concerned with my health and fighting and quality of life. I actually pissed out more than 5500ml but thats all the container held. I've been drinking massive amounts of water for so long i dont even know if its out of habit or necessity.
We're currently looking into adrenal/thyroid as my body temps rarely exceed 96. Ginna do the REIN test this week.
Jansz- I didnt run the test through quest. I cant post the link as i dont have enough posts, but im sure H.A.N. remembers.
Hopefully I can solve this riddle soon, as everyone thinks Im nuts cause physically I appear very health and in shape, but theres nothing health about temps that flucuate betwen 92 and 96 on any given day.
07-27-2007, 11:22 PM
Cut back on the water you are depleted minerals and nutrients out mainly potassium and sodium, calcium, magnesiun which your body needs to function..
07-28-2007, 12:02 AM
We already ran complete metabolic profile:
sodium 142 (135-146mmol/L)
potassium 4.9 (3.5-5.3mmol/L)
chloride 106 (98-110mmmol/L)
T3 Free 301 (230-420pg/dL)
From the reading that I have been doing at STTM, i suspect that these numbers may not be so relevant as they do not reflect what is going on at the cellular level. I exibit many signs of low adrenal/thyroid, but i am confident that Dr. John will get me to where to need to be.
Maybe Phil has something to add?
Off to work. back at 5am.
07-28-2007, 10:25 AM
Last October I had
Free (T3) 2.9pg/mL(2.3-4.2)
Free (T3) 486 (230-420pg/dL
Free (T4) 1.6 (0.8-1.8)ng/dL
I started Armour sometimes in February when I was able to get it.
By the test time I was using 4 grains of Armour Thyroid.
I cut to 3grains now.
You have a room for Iodine and about 3grains.
I use 6 drops/day of Lugol's solution of Iodine, I put it in to my tea.
Amazon.com: Lugol's Iodine(1 Fluid Oz.): Health & Personal Care
07-28-2007, 11:20 AM
07-28-2007, 11:45 AM
I haven't done the iodine loading test yet, but my TSH was perfect last week and my free T4 was at the very high end of normal which I was pleased about.
Going to run 25mg of Iodine via Lugol's for a few more months, then do the test to try to get an idea of how much I really need to supplement with.
07-28-2007, 12:07 PM
I have started Armour as per Dr. Johns instructions. I did 1 grain the first week and am currently holding at 2 grains. My blood tests were taken before starting iodine or Armour. I am thinking of increasing to 3 grains but am a little unsure if that will further stress my adrenals, as my temps. are all over the place and very inconsistent.
I have also noticed I have extremely low diastolic BP. I am often 120/45, 120/55. I know the machine is accurate as I test my brother frequently and he always comes up normal.
07-28-2007, 12:31 PM
07-28-2007, 02:42 PM
07-29-2007, 11:45 AM
07-29-2007, 12:20 PM
07-29-2007, 01:53 PM
FWIW, I haven't had any GI issues at all with Lugol's in the range of 2-8 drops per day (8was a brief loading phase that lasted a week or two). In fact, my stools have been much more well formed since using it. I drink the lugol's in water every morning on an empty stomach with no issues...but then I get accused of having a cast-iron stomach by my wife.
07-30-2007, 08:50 PM
Hope I am not butting in MMAFIGHTER, but a lot of your story sounds quite similar to my own. I was a serious athlete for years. Did a short stint of semi-pro football, competed in bodybuilding/powerlifting, did some local MMA fights (it was called shootfighting back then), used mild doses of steroids back in the eighties, then in the early 1990's I had a cervical lamenctomy done. This is where my problems began: fatigue, chronic pain, etc. I have had all the required tests done along with the 4 cortisol saliva tests and the blood spot thyroid tests. I was told over at STTM that my cortisol levels were extremely low and I was hypothyroid. I have a visited Dr. Crisler and also have a virtual consultation with him tomorrow. I will leave everything in his hands, but what has really caught my attention is your statement about drinking the 2 gallons of water daily. I have also been doing this for years. I wonder if this is contributing to my problems. I like the feeling of fullness the extra water gives me. I am also training with weights 2x/week and a little muay thai 2x/week. I am just really curious as to what the water intake has contributed to my problems. The water seems to cushion my body somewhat with the chronic pain and also curb some of my appetite. Anyway, your story seemed very familiar to my own, and I am curious as to what you find out.
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