AI for 16 yr. old boy?
- 07-05-2007, 12:25 PM
AI for 16 yr. old boy?
Hey bros I was referred here by a member that said you guys could possibly help w/ my son's estrogen problem. My son turned 16 on 7/3. For the last 3-4 yrs. he's had puffy tits. It's weird how they will come and go from time to time but mostly they're present. It's not the whole breast, rather it's real puffy just behind his areola(sp.) I know he hates this esp. when at the beach this summer. Anyway, the DR. said it was common in adolescent boys and said it could last for yrs. He didn't really offer any type of treatment. What do you think about me giving him some type of AI like arimidex, or letro? I'm sort of leary of letro b/c of it being so strong but was considering trying something. Maybe I should just do as the Dr. said and let it run its course. But he's had this for a long time now. As I said, he just turned 16 and prob. started puberty 1 to 1 1/2 yrs. ago. Any suggestions?
- 07-05-2007, 12:38 PM
You can get puffy nips from high T. I had same problem as a teen.
He will be fine, I would leave him alone.
Take his TV and video games away and make him stay outside of the house all day, thats my prescription.
- 07-05-2007, 12:48 PM
keep him on a good clean organic diet
no soy plz
07-05-2007, 01:01 PM
07-05-2007, 01:31 PM
07-05-2007, 01:34 PM
i think what P City said is a good idea, keep him away from tv, computer and games... get him involved in sports and eating good
07-05-2007, 06:02 PM
He sounds self-concious, and what man wouldn't be? If you have to, I think talking to his Dr about some sorta meds is not a bad idea.
07-05-2007, 06:10 PM
07-05-2007, 06:25 PM
Just put yourself in his shoes.
You have to get him out and active in order to burn off the fat. You burn off the fat, the confidence goes up, tits will shrink at least a bit. I would do whatever it takes if he were my kid.
I'm not exactly a kid, but before I got more and more sick, I was out pimpin it hanging out with 3 women at a time. Now I am stuck inside with no energy, half a hard-on and no drive to have fun! I have forced myself to go out and try to have fun, but it's just not the same. I am not myself!
07-05-2007, 09:44 PM
I wouldn't eat fast-food, I am sure it is FULL of soy. Even Wendy's salad dressing has a bunch of soy!!!!
Watch out for those plastics. Don't freeze them or nuke them with food, it's bad news.
Try eatting food from one of the many natural "hippy" stores, it may help.
07-05-2007, 10:15 PM
Is your son the one who is self conscious? Or are you the one who is uncomfortable about his appearance?
I'm not trying to be a jerk about it so please don't take it the wrong wayl... it's quite obvious that you have your son's best interest in mind.
It just seems that if your son was the one who was self conscious that he would be willing to work in the gym. And, it seems that you're in a fantastic situation to help him.
When I was in grade school, my dad lifted regularly. He forced me to lift with him for 15 minutes 3x/week even though I hated it at first. However, he would find a way to reward me on the nights I lifted. After a few weeks of extended curfews as reward and hitting some extra pony league home runs, I caught the lifting bug.
07-05-2007, 10:32 PM
I developed the same problem as your son back when I was in my teens. Although, I'm not sure if mine was that apparent. But I was a very skinny kid at that time (6', 155lbs) so I'm pretty sure mine wasn't due to weight. But, just like anything else, as a teen, anything that is "different" kills your sense of self.
I'd stick with what the doc says and ride it out.
I can still feel a bump behind my nipples, but I've asked my wife a million times and she always assures me that she can't see it or feel them.
Let him know there's millions of others out there with the same problem. Encourage him to eat right and exercise.
07-06-2007, 12:08 AM
let's face it, u never see skinny kids with boobs. I know growing up, i was chunky, and lazy, and had the same problem, fat with boobies. I know gyno is common among teens, but is worse of a problem with chubbier teens. Get him in shape and the boobs will def shrink. Taking medication that would mess with his already messed up hormones is not an option at this point.
07-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Thanks for all of the input bros. As you can see this is my 1st thread here and you guys have been genuinely helpful. I appreciate it. Looking forward to contributing to this board as well.
07-06-2007, 09:59 AM
wait dr john,
bottled water has estrogen influences? how?
07-06-2007, 11:32 AM
07-06-2007, 12:08 PM
07-06-2007, 12:42 PM
07-06-2007, 12:44 PM
man i am freaked now what if u just empty to water bottle out or by gallon jugs where they arent sealed?
07-06-2007, 07:46 PM
Any plastic has estrogen's in them and if you nuk your food in them it even worse. Then food we eat meat is full of estrongens to get them to hold water so there weight is higher they get payed by the pound. Women on birth control piss Estrogens down the dran in the Colorado River the Estrogens are so high all the fish are Female and when they find a male it has both Female and male sex organs. This is why the UK will not let us sell beef there. Don't even get me started on this it is such a bad problem and no one cares.
07-06-2007, 08:33 PM
07-07-2007, 02:22 PM
Even better would be to buy Panna/Pelligrino in bulk. However, money is an issue and sometimes I just bite the bullet and drink tap.
With all the resveratrol Im consuming nowadays(in pill and transdermal form) Im sure all the estrogen is getting bodyslammed:bb3:
07-08-2007, 06:08 PM
Is there a chance your son might be smoking pot?
Pot not only increases E2, but it can make one physically lazy and mentally unmotivated.
07-08-2007, 08:48 PM
Pot does NOT increase E2, I use it to control pain and my E2 is at 23.
I suppose you're going to claim it causes lung cancer too right?
Indica will make one lazy and "stoned" while sativa gives you energy and sparks creativity. Stop spreading uneducated information.
Marijuana, like all drugs, can be either USED or ABUSED.
07-08-2007, 08:52 PM
07-09-2007, 10:14 AM
07-09-2007, 10:18 AM
NEW STUDY FINDS POT DOESN'T LOWER TESTOSTERONE
A new study by Dr. Robert Block at the University of
Iowa disputes the commonly held notion that marijuana alters
the level of testosterone and other sex hormones.
The study contradicted a widely publicized 1974 study
by Dr. R.C. Kolodony, which reported decreased testosterone
levels in men who smoked marijuana chronically.
The U. of Iowa study found that chronic marijuana use
had no effect on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle
stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men or women.
Noting that six other studies had failed to show
lowered testosterone levels in men, Dr. Block concluded: "It
appears that marijuana, even heavy use of the kind that's
typical in the United States, doesn't alter testosterone levels."
However, he cautioned that heavy use might have other
adverse effects, including "possible effects on reproductive
function and mild, selective cognitive impairments associated
with heavy, chronic use."
Block's study is published in Drug and Alcohol
Dependence, Vol. 28: 121-8 (1991).
07-09-2007, 12:00 PM
07-09-2007, 12:12 PM
And it can be especially damaging to the endocrine system of a boy going through puberty.
These endocrine changes may be of relatively little consequence in adults, but they could be of major importance in the prepubertal male who may use cannabis. At least one instance of pubertal arrest has been documented. A 16-year-old boy who had smoked marijuana since age 11 had short stature, no pubic hair, small testes and penis and low serum testosterone. After stopping smoking, growth resumed and serum testosterone reached the normal range (41). As recent surveys of cannabis use indicate that some boys (and girls) may be exposed to it even as early as the prepubertal years, this question is of more than academic interest.
I actually support the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes and I also believe it should be legalized for recreational purposes.
But like many things we use for recreational purposes, it can cause damage if abused. But that is no reason to criminalize people for using it.
07-09-2007, 12:14 PM
I agree that is not for youths. I am talking about healthy adult males. From what I have read, it has not effect on estro, or test.
07-09-2007, 11:00 PM
07-12-2007, 11:47 PM
I take it you've done a panel of tests to rule out any other problems besides the E2? I wouldn't just assume he is lazy, you could have said that about me as a kid when I came home and slept everyday yet I had undiagnosed diabetes for years, I'm sure of it. Yet noone thought to have me checked out. Hard to overcome things when your body isn't working right.
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