Human growth hormone essentially zero...this is good???

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    Human growth hormone essentially zero...this is good???


    I just got the results from a Human Growth Hormone test. The results were:

    < 0.1 .......range <=10.0

    This is good?????

    It seems like a number that is essentially zero is not good.

    Am I naive....or missing something?

    Does this mean the best case scenario would be for me to be dead.....in their eyes?

    I have a friend who had a problem with Kaiser regarding exactly this test. I know they do not want to pay for it because it is so expensive, so are they playing games with me?

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    HGH or IGF-1?
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    HGH...Im not sure this DR knows a lot about hormones.....she also said I should get my cholesterol as low as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinn View Post
    HGH...Im not sure this DR knows a lot about hormones.....she also said I should get my cholesterol as low as possible.
    I beleive HGH is more pulsitile, and IGF-1 is normally used to test because it is more linear throughout the day.

    I'd get IGF-1 checked instead, if you feel you have symptoms of a deficiency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smc252 View Post
    I beleive HGH is more pulsitile, and IGF-1 is normally used to test because it is more linear throughout the day.

    I'd get IGF-1 checked instead, if you feel you have symptoms of a deficiency.
    I think IGF-1 is a good test, but other tests are needed too, because methinks obesity and diabetes can raise IGF-1 too, so using that test as the sole measurement would not be the best way to determine HGH levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJimCalhoun View Post
    I think IGF-1 is a good test, but other tests are needed too, because methinks obesity and diabetes can raise IGF-1 too, so using that test as the sole measurement would not be the best way to determine HGH levels.
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    I actually asked for IGF-1..they tested the wrong thing.

    Even so...a number this low can not be ggod...I am only 40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinn View Post
    I actually asked for IGF-1..they tested the wrong thing.

    Even so...a number this low can not be ggod...I am only 40.
    I think the test is Igf-p3 something LOL
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    Yeah but regardless.......isnt an HGH of zero a um problem?

    Kaiser seems to think zero is acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinn View Post
    HGH...Im not sure this DR knows a lot about hormones.....she also said I should get my cholesterol as low as possible.

    Your dr is a moron. Driving cholesterol into the ground will lower your hormonal out put and lower the pregnenolone levels which from all hormones are dervived from. Not only that it will cause heart damage, mood problems, and cell membranes will become stiff and not be able to transport waste out and detox. Basically end up suffiocated cells. Thats real smart ..

    Plus labs do make errors too..might want to retest. if your gh is that low then you are having severe insulin problems !!
    inuslin - lowers gh
    glucagon - raises it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    GH is not an assay for screening. IGF-1 is. A single GH may be used in some cases for monitoring GHRT, or when conducting GH stimulation tests.
    might be why professional athletes love it so much its undectable but rumors have it that there is a new method to dect it very soon..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    GH is not an assay for screening. IGF-1 is. A single GH may be used in some cases for monitoring GHRT, or when conducting GH stimulation tests.

    I know.....the strange thing is I asked for IGF-1 to be tested and they forgot. One thing about Kaiser, they are incredibly organized and efficient. I asked a second time for an IGF-1 test and they tested HGH.

    This seems supicious to me because they just dont make mistakes like that. I had a friend with an HGH of zero years ago. I dont remember the exact details but Kaiser ended up paying him a settlement when they refused to treat it.

    I know how expensive it is.....and that they simply do not want to pay for it. Funny that they have given me Lipitor, Prilosec, and all the other Drugs that are advertised on The View 100 times a day.

    Am I becoming an annuity for drug companies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinn View Post
    I know.....the strange thing is I asked for IGF-1 to be tested and they forgot. One thing about Kaiser, they are incredibly organized and efficient. I asked a second time for an IGF-1 test and they tested HGH.

    This seems supicious to me because they just dont make mistakes like that. I had a friend with an HGH of zero years ago. I dont remember the exact details but Kaiser ended up paying him a settlement when they refused to treat it.

    I know how expensive it is.....and that they simply do not want to pay for it. Funny that they have given me Lipitor, Prilosec, and all the other Drugs that are advertised on The View 100 times a day.

    Am I becoming an annuity for drug companies?

    Good point so what constitutes a person for HGH therapy if it can not be accurately measured?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    You're off the path here. I did not say GH is undetectable, I said it is not useful for determining GH status or titrating dose.
    You think having an IGF-1 level of 130 qualifies me for treatment? I would tend to think so
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    Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post
    You think having an IGF-1 level of 130 qualifies me for treatment? I would tend to think so
    Dr john what do you like your patients igf-1 levels at. I was told above 300 is this fact or fiction? i like to hear it from Source it self..
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