What can I take for size that won't upset Dr J?
- 05-06-2007, 01:08 PM
What can I take for size that won't upset Dr J?
i may be out of line posting this here. if so please accept my apoligy and advise were to move it. i'm not talking about steriods but something over the counter that won't upset my anti aging protocol. i normally take some m1t over summer...not alot, 1 a day for a week or two..then a few weeks off ect. i promised dr john i wouldn't use the m1t.
is anything else not as strong that would give me a bit of an edge. and wouldn't upset my antiaging protocal? i wana stay healthy but am lacking a little eof my summer size
- 05-06-2007, 02:25 PM
Well I guess the idea is to not change the lab results or give you gyno, but naturally anything that helps you put on muscle is going to raise your GH I would imagine. ZMA is one idea but that wont give you a real edge. Anabolic pump will raise your GH and change glucose insulin results and possibly other things. Your getting tested every 6 months, so maybe hit anabolic pump after a 6 month test so the next one is accurate still, but I would ask Dr. John 1st.
- 05-06-2007, 04:20 PM
Protein powder, creatine, BCAA's? I doubt the doc will tell you what to gain for size even if not illegal. He's a Anti aging doc and since he has to be careful with today's media frenzy with just appearing to be a educated pusher of steroids etc.
I'm leaving this open and keeping it here for the time being although I think it should be moved to the 30+ section or some other section. You lack of size could be nutrition or training related. I just don't think it's appropriate for this forum...Dr. J can make the final say though.
05-06-2007, 05:23 PM
i've already got my protien intake jacked up and am eating alot...i look good but not as full as the last few summers while using m1t...i also have some t-bomb and tribex left over but don't know if it's in the same class as the m1t. thanks for leaving the thread here for now. doc....i'm i out of line here?
05-06-2007, 05:38 PM
05-06-2007, 06:37 PM
He wants something that will give him an edge that isnt harmfull or illegal, I would assume he has his diet down. ZMA, digestive enzymes etc dont give you an edge, they make the diffrence in the long run. He is wanting something to substitute m1t. I think anabolic pump is the answer.
05-07-2007, 09:11 AM
05-07-2007, 12:18 PM
thanks for the replys guys....that m1t just had me spoiled....ok doc i hear ya loud and clear. bcaas? would tgat be the same as amino fuel 2000? if not please give me a product name.
05-07-2007, 12:52 PM
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Last edited by Dr. John; 05-14-2007 at 03:32 PM.
05-07-2007, 01:06 PM
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05-07-2007, 09:27 PM
Remember what sub-forum we're in folks. Discussion of Anti aging and such. If you wish to find out where to run a steroid cycle there is a forum for it.
05-07-2007, 09:42 PM
05-07-2007, 09:43 PM
05-07-2007, 09:44 PM
Tom, you can make points without being a prick about it. Please remember that for future posts where you want to reply to something.
05-07-2007, 10:33 PM
05-08-2007, 10:11 PM
05-08-2007, 10:15 PM
I think I hit a nerve.... The gentleman asked a question....
This is an open forum, and I gave my opinion.
I wasn't being sarcastic.
The secret to getting big is diet and heavy lifting. Serious bodybuilders know that.
ANY other "substance" will only account for 10-25% of the total equation in lean muscle mass.
Just trying to school ya, kid. Be your own man. I'm out.
05-08-2007, 10:19 PM
I guess my sarcastic meter must be on the fritz then. He is on a program with Dr.J and i'm sure he doesn't want to risk pissing off the doc that's helping him and/or messing up his therapy. Just shooting test into your muscles isn't the smartest thing to do when you're dealing with your health, long term.What? Are you 13 years old? If you want to toss in some gear... do it. You don't need anyones permission. You know where Dr. J stands.
~peace and all
05-08-2007, 10:41 PM
this guys a real j/o....real asset to the list
05-09-2007, 09:29 AM
thanks for the support doc....i'm just trying to do the right thing here.
my thanks to you also jayhawk
05-09-2007, 09:34 AM
Any BCAAS as long as pham grade will do !!
05-10-2007, 08:38 PM
05-10-2007, 08:42 PM
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05-11-2007, 09:30 AM
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05-18-2007, 09:03 PM
Well Ill throw this in here..............what about turkesterone as i relates to helping increase lbm? Its non hormonal in action I believe. Would that be something that could give an edge yet not mess wiht T and E?
05-21-2007, 03:43 PM
While some of the comments in this thread are clearly outside the paramaters of the forum purpose it does give me an idea. What do we think of making a sticky in which we have a living list of supplements that can aid in lbm , fat reduction etc BUT do not hinder proper HRT?
Realistically most of us on HRT are still interested in as much edge as possible on that while not harming our HRT. While doc certainly wont likely "approve" supps he could perhaps comment on whether they would be detrimental to HRT protocol?
06-11-2007, 07:06 PM
Dr. John, is it ok to take anabolic pump?
Isnít insulin an extremely dangerous drug?
Yes, insulin is the most anabolic hormone but itís also the MOST dangerous. ANABOLIC-PUMPô is 200% SAFE and HEALTHY. ANABOLIC-PUMPô is not an insulin like substance. ANABOLIC-PUMPô is a brand new class of natural anabolic called SIMS.
What is SIMS?
SIMS stands for Selective Insulin Muscle Sensitizer. Yes, ANABOLIC-PUMPô forces your body to naturally become super efficient in utilizing insulin ONLY in muscle cells. The miraculous nature is that it COMPLETELY shuts down the fat cellís affinity to store glucose and triglycerides while causing LIPOLYSIS! Yes, read that again! Completely shuts down the fat cellís ability to store glucose and triglycerides while force feeding your muscle cells. Go ahead, take a moment to let that sink inÖ
06-11-2007, 07:36 PM
i for one would like to see that sticky developed.....whatda say doc?
i tryed the anabolic pump and didn't feel a thing.....the directions say to take it 15 minutes before a carb loaded meal but my carb intake is very limited.
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