Besides ED, can Hypogonadism also cause premature ejaculation?

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As if things weren't bad enough with Low T and erectile issues, on the times when I do rise to the occasion I am noticing a distinct trend towards ejaculating way faster than I care to. Could happen in under a minute if I'm not careful. Before low T this was a rather uncommon occurence.

Any thoughts, ideas or comments? Seems like this is just one more thing to despise about having a defective system... Some days I'd like to really scream about this BS!!
 
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Anyman,

I am having the same issues. It must be a side effect of TRT.
 

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Hmmm... I've been reading a bit more. Seems PE may be also due to low T

Anyman,

I am having the same issues. It must be a side effect of TRT.
If you are dealing with this as well I suspect it's because your T is still out of whack.

Tomorrow I travel to the specialist. Ought to be interesting.....
 
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If you are dealing with this as well I suspect it's because your T is still out of whack.

Tomorrow I travel to the specialist. Ought to be interesting.....
I am waiting to see how that goes. Good luck. Only two more weeks until mine.
 

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in my opinion; a weak erection from LOW T will cause PE.
 

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I've been dealing with this as well to some extent.

I think (from various readings): too low T => neurotransmitters out of whack (noreprinephrine) => PE
 

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serotonin and GABA are need to last long, also strong hormones levels
 
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PE is not my problem at all. I would love to be PE! TRT hasn't done this for me at all. I have a very tough time, which to me is far worse!
 
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Well this morning I had somewhat success with sex with wife. Only problem was I had PE. Before I was even able to enter her. I took care of her first then we laid there and she joked how she had gotten so good in bed over the years that she can make me come before I even enter her. I am going to have to check into serotonin and GABA, plus the E2 to T ratio so see if either of these is the culpret. At least I am able to have some success.
 

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yup, i have severe ED and very severe PE, my test showed low testosterone along with hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue.
 

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Sorry to hear of the issues guys. No fun! I can't feel much during sex, and don't cum...so I suppose you could be worse off :)
 
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yup, i have severe ED and very severe PE, my test showed low testosterone along with hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue.
You have indentified some of your problems, have you been able to make some improvements in those areas?
Check also prolactin, dr Shippen likes it at 3.
 

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JanSz, i havent gotten better, at times i think ive gotten worse my prolactin is 10.3 (2.1 - 17.1)
i'm just wondering if my destructive past didnt damage my neurotransmitters permantly, but i am working to heal, i take good supplements/vitamins and started armour thyroid 2 weeks, ago, only at 1/2 grain right now
 
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JanSz, i havent gotten better, at times i think ive gotten worse my prolactin is 10.3 (2.1 - 17.1)
i'm just wondering if my destructive past didnt damage my neurotransmitters permantly, but i am working to heal, i take good supplements/vitamins and started armour thyroid 2 weeks, ago, only at 1/2 grain right now
Prolactin can be lowered by Vitex
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I need to lower prolactin, I just get home mine
Vitex Fruit by Natures Way Vitex Fruit
Size:400 mg,100 Capsules
Item #: an003745
Manufacturer: Natures Way Price Range $3.09 - $3.75 from 2 Sellers
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Forgot to check my favorite manufacturer NowFoods (quality).
Wonder if I should keep using what I already have or dump it and buy NowFoods?????
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Vitex by NOW Foods Vitex
Size:300 mg,970
Item #: an020032
Manufacturer: NOW Foods Price $9.99

http://anabolicminds.com/store/589.html
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Better way to lower prolactin is Dostinex
AG-Guys have it.
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Recheck and stabilize prolactin=3
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NowFoods Vitex have more ingredients (with ladies in mind, scratching my head)
Chaste Berry Tree (Vitex) Extract (fruit) (Vitex agnus castus) 300 mg
Dong Quai (Angelica sinensis) (root) 150 mg
 

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whats the problem with High Prolactin?

i think im honestly going to hold off on supplements, it seems nothing has worked for me and if anything i think im getting worse, i feel more weak sexually and more depressed than ever.
 
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whats the problem with High Prolactin?

i think im honestly going to hold off on supplements, it seems nothing has worked for me and if anything i think im getting worse, i feel more weak sexually and more depressed than ever.
Exactly, low prolactin = shorter refraction time, better sex.
 

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lets just say i have the performance level of a 95 year old man, i can barely hold an erection by myself that doesnt last long at all... probably the same refractory time as well.....its quite severe, i just pray shippen can turn me around
 
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lets just say i have the performance level of a 95 year old man, i can barely hold an erection by myself that doesnt last long at all... probably the same refractory time as well.....its quite severe, i just pray shippen can turn me around
Point me to your lattest complete blood test.
 

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total T : 390 (241-827)
free T was 15.45pg/ml / 4.28%
Serum T : 361 (241-827)
Prolactin: 10.3 (2.1 - 17.1)
Estradiol: 13 (0 - 53)
LH: 2.0 (1.5 - 9.3)
FSH: 4.2 (1.4 - 18.1)


TSH: 3.9 uU/ml (.5 – 3.0)
TPO: 1826 lU/ml (0-150)
FT4: 3.6 ng/dL (0.7 – 2.5)
my blood work from lab showed my FT4 1.2 (.8 - 1.4)
FT3: 3.6 pg/ml (2.5 – 6.5)

Cortisol Morning 8.6 ng/ml ( 3.7 – 9.5)
Cortisol Noon 1.0 ng/ml (1.2 – 3.0)
Cortisol Evening 1.9 ng/ml ( 0.6 – 1.9)
Cortisol Night 0.6 ng/ml (0.4 – 1.0)

DHEA 13.7 ng/ml (2 – 23)
Progesterone 64 ng/ml (12-100)
 
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total T : 390 (241-827)
free T was 15.45pg/ml / 4.28%
Serum T : 361 (241-827)
Prolactin: 10.3 (2.1 - 17.1)
Estradiol: 13 (0 - 53)
LH: 2.0 (1.5 - 9.3)
FSH: 4.2 (1.4 - 18.1)


TSH: 3.9 uU/ml (.5 – 3.0)
TPO: 1826 lU/ml (0-150)
FT4: 3.6 ng/dL (0.7 – 2.5)
my blood work from lab showed my FT4 1.2 (.8 - 1.4)
FT3: 3.6 pg/ml (2.5 – 6.5)

Cortisol Morning 8.6 ng/ml ( 3.7 – 9.5)
Cortisol Noon 1.0 ng/ml (1.2 – 3.0)
Cortisol Evening 1.9 ng/ml ( 0.6 – 1.9)
Cortisol Night 0.6 ng/ml (0.4 – 1.0)

DHEA 13.7 ng/ml (2 – 23)
Progesterone 64 ng/ml (12-100)
What medicines and supplements are you taking now?
You biggest complaints.
 

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zinc,magnesium, Vit b5-b6-b12, C, E, adrenal extracts
1/2 grain armour
biggest complaint is ED
 
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total T : 390 (241-827)
free T was 15.45pg/ml / 4.28%
Serum T : 361 (241-827)
Prolactin: 10.3 (2.1 - 17.1)Estradiol: 13 (0 - 53)
LH: 2.0 (1.5 - 9.3)
FSH: 4.2 (1.4 - 18.1)



TSH: 3.9 uU/ml (.5 – 3.0)
TPO: 1826 lU/ml (0-150)
FT4: 3.6 ng/dL (0.7 – 2.5)

my blood work from lab showed my FT4 1.2 (.8 - 1.4)
FT3: 3.6 pg/ml (2.5 – 6.5)

Cortisol Morning 8.6 ng/ml ( 3.7 – 9.5)
Cortisol Noon 1.0 ng/ml (1.2 – 3.0)
Cortisol Evening 1.9 ng/ml ( 0.6 – 1.9)
Cortisol Night 0.6 ng/ml (0.4 – 1.0)

DHEA 13.7 ng/ml (2 – 23)
Progesterone 64 ng/ml (12-100)
I am not a doctor.
I am hanging around here and meso board trying to educate myself and help in my own ED.
I suggest that you do my long blood test, and do it at Quest Diagnostics.
It will be good for discussions here and when you get to dr Shippen.
Off hand I see prolactin and low Testosterone as your problem. You testicles are not getting enough signal.
Not sure what is going on with your thyroid.

With what I see now I would:
HCG 100IU/day
100mg/1gram pregnenolone cream, 1gram/day

Get better advice on adrenals and thyroid.

Prolactin is high (adrenal tumors???)
get MRI

Try Vitex or Dostinex retest in 2 months, see if that helps.
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Adrenals and Thyroid is probably your primary problem.

Good luck.
 
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Jansz-your thoughts?

I am not a doctor.
I am hanging around here and meso board trying to educate myself and help in my own ED.
I suggest that you do my long blood test, and do it at Quest Diagnostics.
It will be good for discussions here and when you get to dr Shippen.
Off hand I see prolactin and low Testosterone as your problem. You testicles are not getting enough signal.
Not sure what is going on with your thyroid.

With what I see now I would:
HCG 100IU/day
100mg/1gram pregnenolone cream, 1gram/day

Get better advice on adrenals and thyroid.

Prolactin is high (adrenal tumors???)
get MRI

Try Vitex or Dostinex retest in 2 months, see if that helps.
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Adrenals and Thyroid is probably your primary problem.

Good luck.
I've also heard Maca can help reduce prolactin? I read on another board a guy took horny goat weed with Maca, it worked great for about a month then nothing? What are your thoughts on this? I've hear your body can get use to some supplements and they quit working after a while. Is this true?
 

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i have also read that supplements can stop working after some time, i also read thats its best to cycle most of your supplements,
 

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When my ED was bad due to high E2 and low T levels when I could at first I had PE. My Dr. told me it's because you have not had an orgam in a long time and your worried it will not stay up. As time went on it got so I could not reach an orgasm this went on for yrs. Now that I have my E2 down and my ED is much better when I have PE I don't worry about it it's better then not having any orgasm at all.

For me all it was was keeping my TT and FT up into the upper 1/3 of my labs range for a young man and my E2 down between 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml.

I went through this for a good 10 yrs. and all it was was low T and high E2.

Now today I get it up just thinking about it.
 

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