Hey fellas, just got some suspect lab results back today

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    Hey fellas, just got some suspect lab results back today


    So Ive been lifting for a while now, and Ive never seen great results. I played college baseball, friend is a trainer... so Ive got good technique and advice, but Ive never been able to bulk up like the other guys. Ive considered a pro hormone cycle, yada yada yada...

    So I did some invesitigating

    My lab results


    Free Test 10.6 pg/mL Normal - 9.3 - 26.5

    T4 1.09

    IGF-1 155 ng/mL Normal - 117 - 329

    Estrodiol 23 pg/mL Normal - 0 - 53

    T3 103 ng/dL

    DHEA 380 ng/dL Normal - 208 -771


    Seems like Im on the ****ty side of ALL the normal ranges, and by the way I havent had morning wood in ages. Im 26, weigh 200 lbs, Im 6'3" and carry a skinny build.


    You guys have any suggestions? How can I raise my levels, and do I need to raise my levels?


    Thanks in advance - Mr. ****ty Side

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    You need alot more tests done. Check the sticky's at top, others will chime in as well.
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    JohnnyHads,,

    Welcome to the world of being a classic ecto.. at 26 I weighed 190 lbs. and I am 6'5"

    Us ectomorphs can lift all the weights in the world and not get that supersize that we want.. It just takes a long time..
    Just keep the diet right, and keep lifting...

    Stay away from the prohormones because they will do nothing but drive your natty test levels even lower..

    As the above post states, get a complete physical and ask your doc for a complete male hormone panel as listed in the stickies. then you will find an answer to the no morning wood problem..

    Good luck
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    Test at Quest Diagnostics, post results with ranges:
    Just print the list and have a doc sign under it.
    I had that done yesterday so do not tell me it is not doable.
    Drink 2 gasses of water in the morning before leaving home.
    Do not eat from before nidnight.
    No sex 2 days before.
    Come early in the morning 7AM, you will have to go again at 3:30 for Cortisol/PM.
    Do not take any usual medicine before draw, take it with you and have it afterward.

    Complete metabolic Panel
    Hepatic Function Panel
    Lipid Panel
    CBC

    Total Estrogens
    estrone
    Estradiol, sensitive
    Progesterone
    Pregnenolone
    Total Testosterone
    Free Testosterone (calculated)
    Bio-available Testosterone (calculated)
    Albumin
    sex hormone–binding globulin (SHBG), serum
    DHT (dihydrotestosterone)
    Hematocrit
    prolactin, serum
    FSH (3rd Generation)
    LH
    Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
    Free (T3) triiodothyroxine
    Free T4
    Total T4
    Total T3
    DHEA Sulfate
    Cortisol, AM/PM
    SOMATOMEDIN C (IGF-1)
    IGF-BP3
    C-reactive protein (high-sensitivity)
    Fibrinogen
    Hemoglobin A1C
    Lp(a) lipoprotein
    Bilirubin
    AST (SGOT)
    ALT(SGPT)
    VLDL
    Homocysteine
    Insulin, fasting
    Glucose, plasma
    Magnesium
    Vitamin D, 1, 25-Dihydroxy
    Folate
    Vitamin A
    Ferritin
    B12, selenium, zinc, copper
    Free PSA
    FreePSA/Total PSA
    aldosterone
    Estradiol, Bioavailable
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    Sweet! Thanks, is this expensive?

    I have a solid anthem insurance plan, does insurance pay for this kind of stuff if Im hypothyroid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyHads View Post
    Sweet! Thanks, is this expensive?

    I have a solid anthem insurance plan, does insurance pay for this kind of stuff if Im hypothyroid?
    You have a better chance at having insurance pay the bill if you ahve right diagnosis.
    Insurance speak ICD-9 code
    Below are mine codes. Put all of them on a script. Explanation of what they mean is below.
    Add your thyroid problem codes. (Let me know what they are for my education)

    257.2
    272.4
    601.9
    780.4
    780.79
    788.41
    255.8
    253.3
    //============================== ============================== =============

    ICD9Data.com - Free 2007 ICD-9-CM Medical Coding Database
    257.2 Other testicular hypofunction 2007 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis 257.2 - Other Testicular Hypofunction
    272.4 Other and unspecified hyperlipidemia 2007 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis 272.* - Disorders of lipoid metabolism
    601.9 Prostatitis unspecified 2007 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis 601.* - Inflammatory diseases of prostate
    780.4 Dizziness and giddiness 2007 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis 780.4 - Dizziness And Giddiness
    780.79 Other malaise and fatigue 2007 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis 780.79 - Other Malaise And Fatigue
    788.41 Urinary frequency 2007 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis 788.41 - Urinary Frequency

    MESO-Rx - View Single Post - Adrenal fatigue, does it really exist?
    255 Disorders of adrenal glands
    For coding adrenal fatigue, I just use the code for Other Specified Disorders of the Adrenal Glands - which I call Adrenal Fatigue
    255.8 Other specified disorders of adrenal glands 2007 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis 255.8 - Other Specified Disorders Of Adrenal Glands
    HGH and Insurance Coverage
    Dr. John 12-17-2006, 06:25 AM
    ICD-9 253.3 Adult Onset Growth Hormone Deficiency
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