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  1. Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post
    Jansz,
    Ive been studying supplements for years. There are good and bad ones out there. One I recommend is fish oil + vit E.

    Biotest makes the best fish oil on the market today. Vit E I get from Carlsons.

    Next I would go with a ZMA product. Every athlete is taking these. Again, Biotest because its cheap. Zinc and magnesium, two wonderfull minerals.

    I have heard some promising stuff about Resveratrol. Again, I trust Biotest.

    Another great product that I love is Greens Plus. Its a blend of organic vegetables and a whole list of other substances. It has been put threw testing and is currently the only green supplemental powder that has submitted its products for mandated testing. It has past with flying colors when it comes to purity and quality. Greens Plus - Superfood rich in chlorophyll.. They also make protein powder, which I will be switching over to once my Biotest Whey is all gone.

    And I love creatine. Again, Biotest.

    Those above are my staples. One must be carefull not to over-antioxident themselves.

    I am reading up on new stuff daily. One particular compound that has piqued my interest is selenium. Another is Carlsons vitamin A/C/E selenium combo.

    I do not take multi vitamins and I do not recommend anyone to do so. They are all poorly absorbed, compete with eachother and can be dangerous. No company has put one out yet that I feel meets my expectations. A good first start would be to seperate the vitamins from the minerals and to make sure to leave calcium out as it blocks mineral absorbtion. Companies still havent figured this out yet. Oh well. We always have tomorrow right.

    All this stuff/products can be googled for further info.
    In trying to figure out shopping list I need your help, so far I have got my sketchy list below:

    Testosterone Nation - Products
    Biotest fish oil ----- Flameout-- $24.99
    ZMA-- $9.00
    REZ-V _$34.99
    MICRINIZED GERMAN CREATINE $12.99

    Vit E I get from Carlsons-------- please provide link
    Carlsons vitamin A/C/E selenium combo--------- please provide link
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    Products [url=http://www.greensplus.com/]
    Greens Plus (five sub groups) ---------------------------------- which one ??
    Protein Greens Plus (two sub groups, soy and whey) --- which one, probably a whey
    Fiber Greens Plus
    Pro-Relief Plus
    Coral Calcium Plus
    Greens Plus Energy Bar
    Greens Plus Protein Bar
    Thermo Greens Plus

    Greens+ UltraPure Products
    Jungle Greens Plus
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    In trying to figure out shopping list I need your help, so far I have got my sketchy list below:

    Testosterone Nation - Products
    Biotest fish oil ----- Flameout-- $24.99
    ZMA-- $9.00
    REZ-V _$34.99
    MICRINIZED GERMAN CREATINE $12.99

    Vit E I get from Carlsons-------- please provide link
    Carlsons vitamin A/C/E selenium combo--------- please provide link
    ============================== ============================== =====
    Products [url=http://www.greensplus.com/]
    Greens Plus (five sub groups) ---------------------------------- which one ??
    Protein Greens Plus (two sub groups, soy and whey) --- which one, probably a whey
    Fiber Greens Plus
    Pro-Relief Plus
    Coral Calcium Plus
    Greens Plus Energy Bar
    Greens Plus Protein Bar
    Thermo Greens Plus

    Greens+ UltraPure Products
    Jungle Greens Plus
    ============================== ==============

    Yes, just go to the T-Nation store and you can order from there. Free shipping on all orders over 150.

    T-nation products are very reasonable if you play around with the dose. Flameout for example is so potent that you could get away with 2 caps a day, meaning a 25 dollar bottle will last you 45 days.

    Resveratrol(REZ-V) I take one cap a week. That 35 dollar bottle lasts me 72 weeks.

    I have had my creatine tub for 6 months now.

    ZMA is 9 bucks a month.

    From the greens plus people, I use Wild Berry Greens Plus Powder. http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_23/products_id/130. I mix this in my Whey shakes. I use One teaspoon instead of 3 to stretch the bottle out to 90 days instead of 30. I will be buying the Whey Greens Protein soon. http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_83_77/products_id/202. Do not ever eat Soy. My whey shakes look like this, and I drink one every day for breakfast.

    1 scoop whey
    ice and water
    handfull walnutts
    2 tablespoons olive oil
    Creatine a couple days a week
    Frozen fruit or Veg, usually strawberries or blueberries, sometimes blackberries or rasberries
    Banana
    Apple
    Yogurt
    1 teaspoon Wild Berry Greens

    I like to buy most fruit like blueberries/blackberries/strawberries in large bulk quantities frozen from the grocery store. They are much cheaper that way and last forever.

    For Carlsons my local Better Health store carries them. If you do not have one in your area, get it here from Carlsons website - http://www.carlsonlabs.com

    I use E Gems Elite 400IU. I may be picking up there A/C/E/Selenium combo as well and taking that once a week as well. I take Vit E everyday along with all my other supps everyday, except Resveratrol is once a week.

    You probably do have a Better Health store though - This place kicks serious ass, they have everything - http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com/

    For all the michigan people on the board, they have 2 near Detroit - one in Plymouth and one in Novi. The Novi store is amazing, and includes a whole list of organic foods and products. Free Range meat/eggs, all natural soap/health care products, all the organic fruit and veggies you could imagine, and a laundry list of supplements. Great place.

    One more thing - Always remember to take FishOil with food - Your body will burn fish oil for energy and NOT store it if you don't.
    Last edited by plymouth city; 04-10-2007 at 01:52 PM. Reason: none
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post
    Yes, just go to the T-Nation store and you can order from there. Free shipping on all orders over 150.

    T-nation products are very reasonable if you play around with the dose. Flameout for example is so potent that you could get away with 2 caps a day, meaning a 25 dollar bottle will last you 45 days.

    Resveratrol(REZ-V) I take one cap a week. That 35 dollar bottle lasts me 72 weeks.

    I have had my creatine tub for 6 months now.

    ZMA is 9 bucks a month.

    From the greens plus people, I use Wild Berry Greens Plus Powder. Greens Plus - Superfood rich in chlorophyll.. I mix this in my Whey shakes. I use One teaspoon instead of 3 to stretch the bottle out to 90 days instead of 30. I will be buying the Whey Greens Protein soon. Greens Plus - Superfood rich in chlorophyll.. Do not ever eat Soy. My whey shakes look like this, and I drink one every day for breakfast.

    1 scoop whey
    ice and water
    handfull walnutts
    2 tablespoons olive oil
    Creatine a couple days a week
    Frozen fruit or Veg, usually strawberries or blueberries, sometimes blackberries or rasberries
    Banana
    Apple
    Yogurt
    1 teaspoon Wild Berry Greens

    I like to buy most fruit like blueberries/blackberries/strawberries in large bulk quantities frozen from the grocery store. They are much cheaper that way and last forever.

    For Carlsons my local Better Health store carries them. If you do not have one in your area, get it here from Carlsons website - Carlson Laboratories

    I use E Gems Elite 400IU. I may be picking up there A/C/E/Selenium combo as well and taking that once a week as well. I take Vit E everyday along with all my other supps everyday, except Resveratrol is once a week.

    You probably do have a Better Health store though - This place kicks serious ass, they have everything - Better Health Store Vitamins, Supplements, Organic Foods

    For all the michigan people on the board, they have 2 near Detroit - one in Plymouth and one in Novi. The Novi store is amazing, and includes a whole list of organic foods and products. Free Range meat/eggs, all natural soap/health care products, all the organic fruit and veggies you could imagine, and a laundry list of supplements. Great place.

    One more thing - Always remember to take FishOil with food - Your body will burn fish oil for energy and NOT store it if you don't.
    That is a great piece of information, THANK YOU.
    Now I will have to compare all this to mine LEF list.
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    Do not want to start anything, but...
    I have read somewhere that in USA the are no decent law to prevent supplier to sell used car oil and call it olive oil.
    Well, except for California. The buddy from another board claimed that Olive Oil made in California (presumably from Californian olives) is the only sure real thing.
    I was trying to buy californian Olive Oil but hate to spend $90 plus shipping for a two bottles of oil.
    I guess I will stay with my Bertoli Extra Virgin from locai Shop-Rite.

    Buy Extra Virgin Olive Oil at Olinda Ridge Olive Company Online Store

  4. Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post

    Resveratrol(REZ-V) I take one cap a week. That 35 dollar bottle lasts me 72 weeks.
    If the serving size is 3 caps for 300mg, why do you take it only once a week? Or, how do you know that once a week is enough?

  5. plymouth city
    Looking to start HRT
    ;---http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com/
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    BIOTEST--http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=34&pag eNo=1&s=navStore
    ZMA-- $9.00 (Zinc, Magnesium, B6) 3 capsules a day
    REZ-V _$34.99 (3 tabs a day) plymut says 1/week Resveratrol (Biotest)
    Flameout--Biotest fish oil ----- $24.99 (4pills a day) plymout says 2 is enough
    MICRINIZED GERMAN CREATINE $12.99 (5grams a day, one scoop)
    Whey Protein (Biotest) (Grow! Premium Quality Whey) to be replaced by Protein Greens Whey Natural
    CLA (Biotest) it is part of Flameout ???
    E-Gems Elite 400 IU ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=10 008046&categid=0001
    ACES A/C/E/Selenium ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=00 110
    GREENS Plus® Wild Berry Burst ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_23/products_id/130.
    PROTEIN GREENS+™ Whey Natural ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_83_77/products_id/202


    My whey shakes look like this, and I drink one every day for breakfast.
    1 scoop whey
    ice and water
    handfull walnutts
    2 tablespoons olive oil
    Creatine a couple days a week
    Frozen fruit or Veg, usually strawberries or blueberries, sometimes blackberries or rasberries
    Banana
    Apple
    Yogurt
    1 teaspoon Greens Plus Wild Berry

  6. Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    That is a great piece of information, THANK YOU.
    Now I will have to compare all this to mine LEF list.
    --------------------------
    Do not want to start anything, but...
    I have read somewhere that in USA the are no decent law to prevent supplier to sell used car oil and call it olive oil.
    Well, except for California. The buddy from another board claimed that Olive Oil made in California (presumably from Californian olives) is the only sure real thing.
    I was trying to buy californian Olive Oil but hate to spend $90 plus shipping for a two bottles of oil.
    I guess I will stay with my Bertoli Extra Virgin from locai Shop-Rite.

    Buy Extra Virgin Olive Oil at Olinda Ridge Olive Company Online Store

    What? Car Oil? LOL not here in the USA bro, everything is legit out of fear of lawsuit(Love or hate the FDA, they protect all of us)

  7. Quote Originally Posted by wildfox View Post
    If the serving size is 3 caps for 300mg, why do you take it only once a week? Or, how do you know that once a week is enough?
    One cap of resveratrol a week, at 100mg, is equal to a diet EXTREMELY high in resveratrol containing foods.(grapes/nuts/seeds)

    Resveratrol is not a proven compound in humans. It has shown AMAZING properties in animal studies, in preventing disease and expanding life. It has shown to help keep estrogen in check in males. But until it is proven more in human studies, I don't wanna spend alot of money on it. My budget is tight. So 35 bucks for over a year supply isn't bad. This way I have more money to spend on other compounds that are more proven, like fish oil and other things.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    plymouth city
    Looking to start HRT
    ;---http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com/
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    BIOTEST--http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=34&pag eNo=1&s=navStore
    ZMA-- $9.00 (Zinc, Magnesium, B6) 3 capsules a day
    REZ-V _$34.99 (3 tabs a day) plymut says 1/week Resveratrol (Biotest)
    Flameout--Biotest fish oil ----- $24.99 (4pills a day) plymout says 2 is enough
    MICRINIZED GERMAN CREATINE $12.99 (5grams a day, one scoop)
    Whey Protein (Biotest) (Grow! Premium Quality Whey) to be replaced by Protein Greens Whey Natural
    CLA (Biotest) it is part of Flameout ???
    E-Gems Elite 400 IU ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=10 008046&categid=0001
    ACES A/C/E/Selenium ;---http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=00 110
    GREENS Plus® Wild Berry Burst ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_23/products_id/130.
    PROTEIN GREENS+™ Whey Natural ;---http://greensplus.com/product_info.php/cPath/67_21_83_77/products_id/202


    My whey shakes look like this, and I drink one every day for breakfast.
    1 scoop whey
    ice and water
    handfull walnutts
    2 tablespoons olive oil
    Creatine a couple days a week
    Frozen fruit or Veg, usually strawberries or blueberries, sometimes blackberries or rasberries
    Banana
    Apple
    Yogurt
    1 teaspoon Greens Plus Wild Berry

    YES. CLA's anti cancer and anti inflammatory properties are GOLD, it is extremely potent. However, all the other CLA products on the market are crap due to the fact that the correct isonomer for CLA needs to be extracted. Nobody did this until Biotest came along(no suprise, they continue to push the edge).

  9. Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post
    What? Car Oil? LOL not here in the USA bro, everything is legit out of fear of lawsuit(Love or hate the FDA, they protect all of us)
    Used car oil was a "slight" exaggeration just to get your attention.
    But other lack of quality. Virgin defined too broadly, or # of pressings and so on.
    Similar to what we are discussing of differences between
    Biotest and no-name supplements.
    I was told that other than when made in California there are no enforceable law that applies to olive oil.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    Used car oil was a "slight" exaggeration just to get your attention.
    But other lack of quality. Virgin defined too broadly, or # of pressings and so on.
    Similar to what we are discussing of differences between
    Biotest and no-name supplements.
    I was told that other than when made in California there are no enforceable law that applies to olive oil.
    LOL gotcha. I use Bertoli as well. Extra Virgin and first cold press is the way to go. Olive oil is the way for me to go, as in I just can't stomach real olives they make me want to vomit(some italian I am huh? Cant even eat olives LOL)
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post
    LOL gotcha. I use Bertoli as well. Extra Virgin and first cold press is the way to go. Olive oil is the way for me to go, as in I just can't stomach real olives they make me want to vomit(some italian I am huh? Cant even eat olives LOL)
    I feel for you, I am Polish but love olives.
  

  
 

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