How to absorb 5% or 10% cream as opposed to 1% also which is best?

[1cc]

Dr John does look at ratios.

ratio's : E2/T and DHT/T

[hardasnails1973]

No doubt! That is the best thing to do.



Well, with Dr. John handling your case, hopefully you'll be feeling good again pretty soon.

Thank you I have no doubt at all. When it comes to dr i thoroughly research things out to find out the best and then just let them do their thing..i feel totally confident in dr john and with the proper testing (urine test) alot will show !!) i was feeling good on 5grams t creame and 250 ius hcg with .5 armidex m, th and then i do not know why doctor did not want to test me as is but wanted a base line reading and befor eI could get it My insurance ran out and I had to stick this out for 5 months before knowing how really out of balance I was !!

[plymouth city]

I am trust me but i think that its not the cream that the problem but the altered estrogen metabolism from lack of fish oils (elevated lp(a) ), hidden intestinal infection (orginal problem from the start) that is the real problem driving down the progesterone and increase DHT conversion as well as sucking my body of zinc and magnesium, and other antioxidents.


THIS IS HOW IT TIES IN TO MY CASE !!! I HAD FOOD POISONING WITH 10 different bacterial infections and here you can see how estrogen can go rampant in that case !!

thought that would be that, but the problem wasn't that my estrogen was too high in relation to the testosterone, it was too high, period. It turns out that there is a charming little bacteria that lives in our gut that was ripping the estrogen off of its glucuronide escort that it attached to in the liver, and so frees the estrogen to recirulate rather than letting it be escorted out of our bodies through our waste elimination system. (Actually, the unbinding is caused by ß-glucuronidase, a glucuronide-destroying enzyme produced by one or more of the more than 500 species of gut bacteria that inhabit a healthy gut.*) For some reason, my bacteria were running rampant, pillaging the glucuronides, so glucuronidation had essentially stopped. Thus, not only was the new estrogen my body was producing naturally being circulated, but so was the estrogen from my birth control pills AND all the internally manufacturered estrogen that should have been eliminated. Since I was tested after I'd been off the pill for over a month (and had experienced no abatement of the symptoms), the high estrogen test results showed that it was my naturally occurring estrogen - both the new estrogen being made by my body as well as the used estrogen that was being recirculated instead of being glucaronidized that was causing the problem.The gut digestive test that he uses (Great Smokies Diagnostic Lab's Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis) does not look for anaerobic organisms (other than E. coli which, in "normal" amounts, is healthy), so we don't know which are present or in what numbers. Anaerobic organisms, such as E. coli, Bacteriodes, and Clostridia, are known to induce the formation of glucuronidase I HAD ALL OF THEM AND A TON MORE !! and I bet you i still DO !!

A diet low in fish oil decreases the ratio of 2-(OH)- estrogen to 16-alpha-(OH)-estrogen and thereby increases cancer risk. Intake of fish oil also has been observed to inhibit the formation of human breast cancer cells in laboratory studies.

Interesting. Ive been taking fish oil + CLA + Vit E forever and they make a big difference. Ive noticed my skin has a much healthier, fresh glo.

I had no idea you were a girl! Im very impressed with your knowledge. Most females I speak with know very little of the endocrine system. Kudos to you for taking empowerment over your health/well being. Pretty much every girl I know I try and take time to teach them about the dangers of the birth control pill. Never, ever mess with mother nature

Best of luck!

[hardasnails1973]

Interesting. Ive been taking fish oil + CLA + Vit E forever and they make a big difference. Ive noticed my skin has a much healthier, fresh glo.

I had no idea you were a girl! Im very impressed with your knowledge. Most females I speak with know very little of the endocrine system. Kudos to you for taking empowerment over your health/well being. Pretty much every girl I know I try and take time to teach them about the dangers of the birth control pill.

Best of luck!

Sorry bro I am all man what little testosterone I do have I just posted that for the fact of how the intestinal bacteria can alter the metabolic pathways of estrogen and how it can change the good to bad:ratio and leave estrodial perfectly un touched LOL

When was last time that dr john had girls wanting to be as patience. I know the "cave" where come from is a male strip club where i used to work before getting sick LOL

[plymouth city]

Sorry bro I am all man what little testosterone I do have I just posted that for the fact of how the intestinal bacteria can alter the metabolic pathways of estrogen and how it can change the good to bad:ratio and leave estrodial perfectly un touched LOL

When was last time that dr john had girls wanting to be as patience. I know the "cave" where come from is a male strip club where i used to work before getting sick LOL

LOL I seen the part about birth control pills and such. Just put two and two together LOL

[hardasnails1973]

LOL I seen the part about birth control pills and such. Just put two and two together LOL

Better up that pregenolone bro a few 100 mgs LOL

[1Ainslie]

Where are you currently applying the T Cream?
Where did you buy your T Cream from and do you know what base they used by any chance?

I have Dr Crislers 5% cream and tried some 10% I got from my UK Endo to try. I tried forearms , no absorbtion, read a book by Dr Hertoghe who says forehead and face and neck , all areas where people blush and also on sides, no good so far.
the 1% gel I apply shoulders and biceps, absorb no problem, maybe I should try the 5% or 10% on shoulders and biceps, although it is supposed to be harder to absorb in thicker skin areas like shoulders?. When you apply your 10% (I think I read you use it) when do you apply it and how often, also when do you feel it kicking in after applying?

[hardasnails1973]

I have Dr Crislers 5% cream and tried some 10% I got from my UK Endo to try. I tried forearms , no absorbtion, read a book by Dr Hertoghe who says forehead and face and neck , all areas where people blush and also on sides, no good so far.
the 1% gel I apply shoulders and biceps, absorb no problem, maybe I should try the 5% or 10% on shoulders and biceps, although it is supposed to be harder to absorb in thicker skin areas like shoulders?. When you apply your 10% (I think I read you use it) when do you apply it and how often, also when do you feel it kicking in after applying?

If after 2 weeks and then restest and then increasing the dosages nothing happens goto shoots. May be adding hcg in might give you a boost, but let dr john be the one telling you that he is the dr NOT US..

[1cc]

I have Dr Crislers 5% cream and tried some 10% I got from my UK Endo to try. I tried forearms , no absorbtion, read a book by Dr Hertoghe who says forehead and face and neck , all areas where people blush and also on sides, no good so far.
the 1% gel I apply shoulders and biceps, absorb no problem, maybe I should try the 5% or 10% on shoulders and biceps, although it is supposed to be harder to absorb in thicker skin areas like shoulders?. When you apply your 10% (I think I read you use it) when do you apply it and how often, also when do you feel it kicking in after applying?

Try the hairless inner bicep area which is what I use, or you can try the hairless inner forearm area. The skin is very thin there. I use a very tiny amount of cream which is easy to apply to the inner bicep of 1 bicep. I alternate biceps every day. I use 1/4 of 1 gram of 100mg per gram T Cream, which works out to 25mg of T. I apply the cream every morning. I can feel the T "kick in" within about 30 minutes. Make sure that the area you will be applying cream to is cleansed the night before, from any previous application.

If the T Cream you are using has been compounded using a "vanishing" cream base, then you can apply it as I described. If it is compounded using a faster absorbing base, then you would need to find out from the compounder or doctor where it is recommended to be applied.

[1Ainslie]

Try the hairless inner bicep area which is what I use, or you can try the hairless inner forearm area. The skin is very thin there. I use a very tiny amount of cream which is easy to apply to the inner bicep of 1 bicep. I alternate biceps every day. I use 1/4 of 1 gram of 100mg per gram T Cream, which works out to 25mg of T. I apply the cream every morning. I can feel the T "kick in" within about 30 minutes. Make sure that the area you will be applying cream to is cleansed the night before, from any previous application.

If the T Cream you are using has been compounded using a "vanishing" cream base, then you can apply it as I described. If it is compounded using a faster absorbing base, then you would need to find out from the compounder or doctor where it is recommended to be applied.

Thanks for that view, 25mg is not much is it, I use 75mg or sometimes 100mg of the 1% Gel. I will try the biceps and forearms