Elevated Estogen And Supplements
- 03-04-2007, 10:12 PM
- 03-05-2007, 01:40 AM
A supplement should never take place of a perscription drug. What are your estradoil levels from bloodwork? Your MD should be monitoring them and treat if needed with an AI like arimidex.
03-05-2007, 08:37 AM
I was taking 7.5gram of Androgel, just the right dose fo me.
I think it is second best choice.
I changed to Tcream from womansinternational
100mg/1gram, I take 0.75gram, 1gram spoon scraped at 45degree over edge of container. I put it on my calf. I have a grandson so transfer is of concern.
I used to use larger amounts of Androgel and had E2 problems.
No I do not use Arimidex, do not need.
I use DIM, I buy lot of supplements from LEF, so my DIM is theirs too, Double-Action 5 pills daily plus 1000mg TMG.
Dr John used to work with Dr Delgado, and I think used his DIM, 300-400mg daily.
That would be four pills of
Estroblock (60 ct) has 100mg DIM with I3C 50mg
Estroblock with I3C -60 count
always add TMG
DIM works by balancing good/bad estrogens in favor of good,
They all swear about DIM but always slip little bit of I3C.
There is some controversy about it.
There is Indolplex
PhytoPharmica Indolplex with DIM
it have only DIM.
It behaves differently than any other.
Take whatewer works for you, you may hear other opinions, I post what I think Dr John supports, you can read it in his 2005 post right here:
MESO-Rx - View Single Post - I am on HRT with DIM...
He do not support flax seed anymore.
It is good practice to optimize adrenals and thyroid, get tested
03-05-2007, 08:37 AM
Vitamin B6 10.5 mg
Magnesium 450 mg
Zinc 30 mg
German Tribulus Terrestris Extract
Cissus Quadrangularis Extract
The claim is that it is Testosterone Stimulating, Free Testosterone Stimulating,Estogen Anti-Aromatase complex, Estogen Blocking complex, DHT Anti-Aromatase Complex, Receptor Transduction Complex, Anabolic/Anti-catabolic Complex.
Are you saying these types of supplements may be a waste of money? Thanks for your help
03-05-2007, 08:41 AM
Plus the dosages are not high enough to actually do anything.
Stick to plan ZMA and you will be fine and DIM and then retest, estrogen and thyroid go hand and hand as well
Sam-e, TMG works well to but get homocysteine levels checked first before using sam-e
you can use TMG with any homocystein levels majority of populaion is already throught the rough and no wonder why america is so unhealthy,, but no normal DO ever checks the simple stuff and base everything thing on cholesterol when forget about fibrogen, lp(a), homocysteine levels which are more direct indicators of hiddne healthy problems
03-05-2007, 08:49 AM
03-05-2007, 08:54 AM
03-05-2007, 08:56 AM
03-05-2007, 08:57 AM
yep, Go by your morning boners and then you know that things are going good also too did the Dr even check Shbg, dht levels when on gels its imperative that they do.
03-05-2007, 09:07 AM
Go to Quest's Patients Service center, find it here:
Quest Diagnostics: Patient Service Centers
I have my preliminary order (script) for my test on end of March, how to post a picture on this board?
I test this (it is my complete yearly test, then one or two short ones)
Complete metabolic Panel
Hepatic Function Panel
Free Testosterone (calculated)
Bio-available Testosterone (calculated)
sex hormone–binding globulin (SHBG), serum
FSH (3rd Generation)
Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
Free (T3) triiodothyroxine
SOMATOMEDIN C (IGF-1)
C-reactive protein (high-sensitivity)
Vitamin D, 1, 25-Dihydroxy
B12, selenium, zinc, copper
03-05-2007, 09:08 AM
03-05-2007, 09:10 AM
Yeah good luck finding a dr that will run all that stuff. Its hard enough to get them to run estrodial along with free testosterone and total test..
03-05-2007, 09:13 AM
03-05-2007, 09:13 AM
03-05-2007, 09:17 AM
This web site helps you find names, call them ask questions.
At this writting the site do not respond, give it some time.
Mine doc is at ZIP 07410
American Osteopathic Association
03-05-2007, 09:21 AM
03-05-2007, 09:38 AM
03-05-2007, 09:53 AM
03-05-2007, 10:20 AM
Heres a puzzle for you
Some one puts on creame 10% 1 gram 3 hours after their total test is 308, shbg doubled from 20 to 40. Dr did not run estrodial, dht, but free test levels and bioavailable are low normal. estrodial, shbg, dht wre normal baseline last blood draw. Could this mean that the cream is being absorbed but is being diverted to possible pure estrogen? Since DHT lowers shbg then estrogen is only going to increase it. Given the adrenals and thyroid are normal. Only thing I can come up is that testosterone due to lack or aromotase is being diverted to estrogen.
03-09-2007, 11:18 AM
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