10% Gel on Face??
- 02-25-2007, 05:18 PM
10% Gel on Face??
I read a book by a very respected international Hormone specialist and he reckons the best transdermal is 10% Gel but applied to the facial areas where blood is nearest surface(ie where people blush) such as forehead, cheeks below eyes but not shaving area and base of neck. He reckons it absorbs better there and 10% gives less estrogen, DHT and gives more even T throughtout 24 hours. Has anyone tried these areas for application with 10% or 5%?
- 02-25-2007, 06:24 PM
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02-26-2007, 01:52 AM
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02-26-2007, 09:11 PM
02-26-2007, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by JanSz
I used to have much more hairs on my calves,
lost 90% of them about 15 years ago.
Any of this is indicative of something?
On my last test I checked those:
Total Estrogens---260pg/mL (40-115)
estrone, serum----78pg/mL (12-72)
Extra tablets of DIM should help estrone, but what to do for TotalEstrogens?
02-27-2007, 02:13 AM
02-27-2007, 02:23 PM
02-28-2007, 10:53 AM
Post product name, number of pills, link to supplier.
Hope I am not too demanding.
Currently I am on:
DIM, 4 pills, 4*14mg=56mg active DIM, or 56/0.25=224mg "crude" DIM
Dual-Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract With Resveratrol & Cat's Claw, 60 Vegetarian Capsules
TMG (Trimethylglycine, also called Betaine†)- 1000 mg
Trimethylglycine (TMG)-100 mg
Phosphatidylcholine (from soy)-150 mg
Choline (as choline bitartrate)-120 mg
Alpha-Glyceryl Phosphoryl Choline (A-GPC)-600 mg
Phosphatidylcholine-Grape Seed Extract-150 mg
Molybdenum (as sodium molybdate)-125 mcg
I take multitude of supplements from LEF, above is small list of names that you have mentioned.
Wonder if it is any good;
To support my liver, 2 weeks ago I started on 3 pills daily of;
NOW Foods - Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator* (by Dr. C. Samuel Verghese, M.D.) - 90 Caps
02-28-2007, 11:34 AM
My test results indicated
low normal copper serum
low normal copper ceruoplasm
Low normal uric acid -low moly, copper toxcity (binding in the liver)
low homocysteine - methyation need to detoxify estrogens
shbg levels doubled from basline 17 to 39 - cortisol estrogen increaes shbg, dhea decreases it
elevated taurine urine - moly deficeincy in proper sulfur oxidation
elevated sarcosine - b2, folonic acid deficiency
low gaba - zinc, P5P, deficiency, elevated estrogen lowers gaba
low 5hiaa - low serotnin due to undermethyation
elevated histmaines - low methytator , possible estrogen driven, possible dybiosis (ecoli, proteus, ect)
elevatd rt3 - intedstinal infections, estrogen domaince, prolonged cortisol (adrenal imbalance)
Estrogen domaince possible - Boobs swollen, bad joint pain, no morning wood, lack of hair growth, memory shot to hell, immune suppression, muscle loss, lack of appetite, poor protein assimulation (low esential aminos on urine test)
vitalago - white spots all over skin - copper toxcity
severe reactive hypoglcemia - adrenal fatigue, estrogen imbalances
low free cortisol - estrogen domaince possible increassing corisol hormone binding globulin.
Moly - 150 mcg BID chelated from solgar
samm-e - 400 BID - jarrow
TMG -1000 BID - jarrow
folonic acid 4000 mcgs
methycobalonin 5000 mcgs - jarrow
No Dim, dhea, or any hormone releated suppelments till i get tests back..
healthy trinity -probiotic
glycine - 1000 mg BID
vitamin C - sodium acsorabate - 1000 BID
Now milk thistle TID
now panthine 300 TID a day - for adrenal support
Right now i am in a holding pattern until I get my other half of mytests back to see where estrodial is. If estrodial is elevated then I am going to switch to a different tesosterone creame. If estrodial is fine and DHEA levels are low due to not balance out the cortef then just add thr proper dhea under proper medical may be all that needs to resolve it (i think this is the main culprit more then anything because of sevre immune suppression because of other testing showing it up as dhea deficiency as well, but it was never addressed) mean while I will have stool sample test, leaky gut test done to see if there is an uinderlying bacterial infection in digestive tract which couild be adding extra stress to my body not letting it self rebalance
Jansz thanks for telling me about lipoprotein A mine was off the charts and guess what lowers it TESTOSTERONE !!
Now if i can fins the correltation between DHEA, lipoprotein A, and estrogen then I might have a better understanding on the situation.
Low circulating levels of the adrenal steroids dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) and dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS) are thought to be associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD) in men. In women, either a positive or null association with CVD has been found. The nature of the relation between DHEAS and CVD risk factors in women is unclear and is based on cross-sectional data. We present results from a longitudinal investigation of serum DHEA and DHEAS and cardiovascular disease risk factors in 236 women, initially 50–60 years old, from a population-based prospective (1986–1995) study of the menopausal transition. We used generalized estimating equations to model the relation of serum DHEA and DHEAS to systolic and diastolic blood pressure and serum levels of total cholesterol, high density lipoprotein cholesterol, and apolipoproteins A and B, adjusting for other factors related to CVD. Both DHEA and DHEAS were positively related to diastolic and systolic blood pressure, and DHEAS was negatively related to apolipoprotein A. DHEA and DHEAS were also positively related to smoking, alcohol use, estrone, and estradiol levels, and inversely related to age. Our results suggest that higher levels of DHEA and DHEAS in middle-aged women may indicate increased CVD risk.
But again here is the ***** low estrogen, low copper are the same symptoms of the excesses ..
02-28-2007, 12:26 PM
02-28-2007, 12:27 PM
02-28-2007, 12:37 PM
More information to provide that elevate lipo(A) is linked to estrogen levels
Osteocalcin as a bone formation parameter and aminoterminal collagen type I telopeptide as a bone resorption parameter increased during high-dose estrogen supplementation, and then decreased during the lower doses. Lipoprotein (a) increased from 20 mg/dl at baseline to 60 and 62 mg/dl after 6 and 12 months
Thieme-connect - Abstract
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