- 11-07-2006, 06:36 PM
- 11-07-2006, 08:48 PM
I would also like to know how long after application, before one can feel the cream work? I take 10mg pregnenolone in the morning, and I feel it work within 30 minutes. Also, does the pregnenolone cream cause sleep problems?
- 11-08-2006, 09:48 AM
1cc, why do you take it? what do you feel after you take it?
11-08-2006, 12:51 PM
I take it because I have Adrenal Fatigue. Pregnenolone is a precursor to cortisol, DHEA, Aldosterone, Estrogen and progesterone. Taking pregnenolone gives me a boost in cortisol, DHEA and aldosterone, which is normally lower when one has Adrenal Fatigue. After taking pregnenolone which restores these hormone levels, it effects a "feeling of well being" the same as when doing an HCG shot (which also boosts pregnenolone).Originally Posted by sidnee
Although I had already been supplementing hydrocortisone and DHEA seperately, taking pregnenolone had a very positive effect, probably because it boosts all these hormones simultaneously and in harmony allowing the body to decide what and how much to convert to and when.
11-08-2006, 04:27 PM
Where did you get the cream I was thinking of trying this my levels are dam low.Originally Posted by 1cc
11-08-2006, 04:58 PM
Does it have to be a cream?Originally Posted by pmgamer18
For the last two weeks I am taking LEF Pregnenolone 100mg caps, twice daily.
Do not feel any difference.
Couple of years ago I used Pregnenolone cream (do not know its potency), did nothing for me.
11-08-2006, 05:12 PM
For the cream or the caps - are they OTC or do you need a prescription?
11-08-2006, 05:51 PM
11-08-2006, 06:32 PM
From what I know about this pills don't work well and if your not having a problem doing the cream you will not feel it.Originally Posted by JanSz
11-08-2006, 10:34 PM
I should have asked in my previous post - where is the best source? Can you buy from Signature (the compounding company where Dr. John gets his)? Any contact info?
11-08-2006, 10:59 PM
I'm using 10mg capsules.Originally Posted by pmgamer18
11-08-2006, 11:01 PM
No, capsules are fine. I feel the 10mg work, so I am surprised you feel nothing with 100mg. I read somewhere that one feels the effect much more when one has Adrenal Fatigue.Originally Posted by JanSz
11-08-2006, 11:07 PM
Pregnenolone pills or capsules can be bought anywhere for very cheap OTC. If you want to try the cream, you can get it compounded at Women's International Pharmacy - Natural hormone replacement therapies - compounding specialists for women/men for very cheap, but they do require a script. You can also get the cream without a script at a little more expensive at Pregnenolone Body Cream 2 oz by Life-Flo.Originally Posted by kincaiddave
This product delivers 15mg pregnenolone cream, which is equivalent to about 50mg oral dose because it is more bioavailable.
11-08-2006, 11:18 PM
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11-10-2006, 12:33 PM
I just got my test on my Pregnenolone and it's going down last test was 21 now I am down to 17. One of the guys is doing 50mgs a day and has Thyroid and Adrenal problems along with low T.Originally Posted by 1cc
I ordered some HC and want to know if I am doing Isocort 8 pills a day can I use HC to stress dose if I am comming down with Bronchitis like Jefferies talks about in his book "Safe Uses of Cortisol".
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11-10-2006, 03:36 PM
PregnenoloneOriginally Posted by pmgamer18
This test is used to determine ovarian failure, hirsutism, adrenal carcinoma, and Cushing’s syndrome.
LE’s Optimal Range:
Blood Testing Protocols: Online References For Health Concerns
You have got 17 now, me 23ng/dL
it is far from 100-170 that LEF wants.
And all the time I was taking 50mg with the
Cognitex With Pregnenolone & Neuroprotection Complex, 90 Softgels
after my blood test I have added
2x100mg pills of Pregnenolone
will see what happens.
11-10-2006, 05:14 PM
I think we have to be care full I am on Cortisol 20mgs a day and I do Testosterone shots 50 mgs every 3 days and 400 IU's of HCG the 2 days in between. I take .5 mgs. of Arimidex every otherday to keep Estradiol down and I also do DHEA 25 mgs 2 times a day. Pregnenolone converts into these as HCG will raise progesterone my last test was .532 ng/ml range is .27 - .90 I don't want this to go to high.
I am going to get some pregenolone and try 50mgs to start.
11-10-2006, 06:32 PM
ProgesteroneOriginally Posted by pmgamer18
Reference Ranges:Men: <<0.3–1.2 ng/mL(no LEF recomendation here)
Blood Testing Protocols - Page 4 Of 5: Online References For Health Concerns
On page 95 "Life Extension Revolution" by P. Miller
Target Progesterone for men
that would be
"Life Extension Revolution" by P. Miller Male Hormone profile-------------Normal ------OptimalDHEA-s ----------- 20-620 mcg/dL 250-450
--------------range ------ range
Cortisol------------ 5-29 mcg/dL 14-Sep
Total Estrogens---- 40-115 pg/mL less than 100 (how to make this lower when E2 is at correct level??)
Estradiol----------- 21-50 pg/mL less than 40
Progesterone------ 300-1200 pg/mL 1500-2500
Total Testosterone-- 2700-9700 pg/mL 6000-9000
TSH---------------- 0.2-5.5 mU/L 1.0-2.0
FreeT3-------------- 2.60-4.80 pg/mL 2.9-3.2
FreeT4--------------- 0.7-1.53 ng/dL 1.2-1.4
IGF-1--------------- 114-492 ng/mL 200-300
How to post a tables or pictures, instructions for dummies please.
11-10-2006, 08:09 PM
Good info thanks.
11-11-2006, 12:20 PM
I found this looking for Pregnenolone gives some advice on taking it.
Pregnenolone may help play a role in memory, mood,energy, PMS, menopause, hormone replacement, stress reduction, immunity, arthritis, and other conditions.
Pregnenolone is made in a laboratory by conversion of Diosgenin to Pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is made in the body in many places. The most common places Pregnenolone is made is the adrenal glands, liver, skin, and the testes and ovaries.
Pregnenolone can easily be converted into DHEA which in turn is converted into androgens, estrogens, and other steroids. Pregnenolone has the ability to form other hormones such as progesterone.
Pregnenolone appears to be safe when the dose is between 10 and 100 milligrams per day. The average Pregnenolone production in the body is estimated to be 14 mg per day.
Pregnenolone production like DHEA declines with age. It is estimated that Pregnenolone production is 50-60 percent less at age 75 than 35.
Pregnenolone was first prepared in a laboratory in 1934. Pregnenolone was given to healthy young factory workers in 50 mg doses back in 1945. Pregnenolone administration improved production rates. From this study it was determined that Pregnenolone was effective in combating fatigue with no side effect.
Brain function including mood, memory and thinking may be enhanced by administration of 20 mg of Pregnenolone every day for two weeks. Taking Pregnenolone may also help you feel more mentally energized,with improved memory, increased alertness, and a feeling of being more focused.
This statement has not been evaluated by the (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
11-12-2006, 03:59 PM
Great this helps some but I can't buy from Signature with out a script my last test was 17 and I got that same old story you in the normal range. My labs range is 10 to 230 ng/dl.Originally Posted by Dr. John
Yet my Progesterone is good looks .532 range .27 to .90 ng/ml.
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